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  • Rocket
    Rocket Member Posts: 910
    edited July 2012

    May God in His mercy richly bless you Fondak for your willingness to submit yourself to His will. I am praying that the MRI and mammogram will turn out to be nothing to be concerned about. You are a lovely, strong witness for Him. It's okay to find ourselves in weakness, for when we are weak, then we are strong in Him. Please keep us posted.

  • learnin
    learnin Member Posts: 37
    edited July 2012

    Fondak - thankyou for sharing your reflections.



    I wonder - What does it mean for Christ to be glorified in our illness (or eventual death?) practically, what does that look like? Have you seen examples you could share?

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 814
    edited July 2012

    Well at the moment (for me) I guess I'm feeling 'spoilt' to be in the company of some truly beautiful sisters in the Lord. Im not just doing the ol rhetoric bit...you know, flattery and the like (waste of time anyway).... but being so far away geographically has made me feel sometimes in this forum that there was a closeness but it just wasnt there with me, but was there among U.S. Ladies. Hard to descibe. However today Ive been exceedingly blessed by you and as we know, Christ trancends all physical boundaries. Thankyou.

    We all know there is a special relationship of understanding between those of us who have or have had BC. How much more special when those ladies are true blue born again Christians! 

    Jo as usual you pretty much hit the nail on the head, which as you know, I appreciate. You bless many people here and may God reward you many times over and over, both now and the (eternal) time to come. If I never meet you on this earth I will be looking to make up for that loss in heaven! Big BIG hugs.

    Kindergarten lol, I most assuredly am not beyond a good laugh and good clean enjoyment. Despite the days being evil, there is still much that God blesses us with even from His creation. (Ha, so long as we dont worship the creation more than the Creator )  I also am a very serious person. There is nothing more serious than where someone will spend eternity INCLUDING but not limited to, our own loved ones!.....I dont know, I reckon the Grand Canyon would take some beating! What rugged beauty God has given you for your land over there! Yes NZ is a beautiful place too, and they say you dont find such diversity for such correspondingly short distances as NZ, and that might be true but like everywhere else thats beautiful, because we're in the end times, it is systematically being destroyed and ruined by evil. At a superficial look we might still look to be 'clean and green', but I have to say no. Its anything but.

    I'll make it clear, theres no way I would affiliate myself with anything 'green' or their goddess gaia. No THANKS! Groups like these are just another porn in the game. Theyre serving their purpose for now, but at the right time they'll be given the push just like other groups who have been 'utilized' for the purpose of furthering the NWO agenda.The main aim of these things is to get people involved in tyre kicking ventures to waste their time, tie them up (busy busy busy), and endlessly chase their tails. Too busy to see what else theyre slipping in to control us.

    One of the biggest mistakes environmentalist groups et al and even so-called Christians are getting involved in, is to think we are going to 'save this earth' either for 'future generations' or even for God. A thousand times no. This is one of the things God is telling us not to be deceived about, and remember dear ones, satan will deceive the very elect if possible. The elect are his born again children. This earth, its future and timetable, is Gods business and how dare we think we can 'make it just right' for His return. He's already told us in His word what He's going to do with it. Burn it. All the same, He says Hes going to judge those who destroy the earth.

    2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

    Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.    (emphasis mine) (KJV)

    Lately Ive been watching some absolutely DIABOLICAL things going on when I outside my very own windows. I can unequivocally state that if I didnt know God Id be sure on some bandwagons and probably with both barrells in full motion!  In short, there are so many things 'coming at you' now, which tie in with bringing in the One World Government/ Beast system, that its too late to turn back that tide now. There are enough legitimate bandwagons to jump upon to sink a battleship, but climbing on any one of these in themselves leads to nowhere, for though legitimate, NONE of them go far enough. None come to the conclusion of the matter. As I said most are good 'causes' but the only 'cause' I will really put my energy into is Christ. Everything else is band-aid territory.

    It is so precious to hear testimonies of how ladies are struggling yet learning to look to Christ. Its me to a T. Im no great one for sure. I muff it, repent, and hopefully pick myself up again and get on with it, hoping that IM NOT GOING TO GO AROUND THE SAME MOUNTAIN AGAIN !!! Sometimes I do. The suffering gospel can be very hard for some of us to understand, me included. In the end though, I know its USELESS TO KICK AGAINST THE PRICKS... just like the Lord said to Paul lol. I have to laugh when Jonah did His bun at God....

    Fondak your post, what can I say? BIG BIG hugs to you!!!  Yours was a post I would like to see many many more of. Not from you but all of us, or those of us who need to. I admire your honesty and willingness to put all on the line for Christ. It is one thing to humble ourselves about our past sins, but it takes maturity and honesty of a diffeent calibre to talk about present ones. I most certainly will pray for you.

    It is utterly amazing what some people who call them selves Christian will take on board.  If they read their word as you have done Fondak and allowed it to change them (not the other way around) they would be far better off instead of hankering for the fleshpots of egypt....or something. I had a particular person say to me that pride was OK. And of course as many sins as there are allowable there will be just as many glorified through media pushing  'popular thought'  eg We are proud to be Kiwis, we are proud to be (.....)  < - fill in the plethora of things you are 'allowed' to be proud about according to the media... .....anywayz  I said "What??? There are dozens upon dozens of Scriptures that tell you what God thinks of pride....and BTW there is no such thing as righteous pride" ...  In other words every trace of pride is a stench in Gods nostrils. 

    Psa 12:3 The LORD shall cut off all flattering lips, and the tongue that speaketh proud things:

    Psa 119:21 Thou hast rebuked the proud that are cursed, which do err from thy commandments.  

    Pro 15:25 The LORD will destroy the house of the proud: but he will establish the border of the widow.

    Pro 16:5 Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.  

    sa 2:12 For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:  

    We constantly have to watch that there isnt some little sneaky backdoor that the enemy climbs through to trip us up. He loves to tell us how wonderful we should think we are.... Always pandering to SELF and all its related 'isms'  of today.

     KJV Emphasis mine.

    Musical

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 814
    edited July 2012
     Kindergarten after all I said, I forgot to say if you find yourself coming over to NZ, God willing, it would always be nice to meet a BC Christian lady. Are you near the terrible fires we've been seeing lately?  I pray that you are all safe!
  • fondak
    fondak Member Posts: 271
    edited July 2012

    Oh, how I love you ladies! Thank you all for the encouragement and much needed prayer! Musical, I must tell  you my sons could sit and talk with you for hours!  They have little use for any media other than music.   That would only be the beginning of what you and them would engage in I'm certain.

    Learnin.....thank you so much for asking me for clarification and for an example.  

    That's a great question..  It's something I am always seeking God about myself. 

    I think to start it's wanting His will above our own desires.  It's not thinking that there is something we can conjur up to change our situation whether it be more faith, having the right people pray for us, etc.  It's recognizing the sovereignty of God and knowing His will is best for us.  It is one thing to say you want God's will for your life when all is well and another when you are diagnosed with cancer or facing other trials.

    For those who are His, when we are faced with illness and the uncertainty it brings, and we can say that we desire God's will in our life it looks different to the rest of the world.  It gives substance to our words.  As the lost look on at the way we live our lives in the midst of trials it is like a silent sermon.  It encourages believers and ultimately gives glory to God because He is the source of our peace, comfort and hope. 

    Cancer is what I call a hard blessing. 

    Some may ask how can sickness be a blessing.  I would have to say when we live in a world where sin abounds and honestly...in our flesh.... we want very little to do with God.....ok nothing....in our flesh.  Sickness can be a blessing to help us realize how much we really need a Savior.  There are no escape death free cards so how wonderful is it that we have a chance to focus on what it really means to not be in control and to be forced to consider eternity.  For those of us who know and love the Lord are faced with sickness we don't know how He may be using us in the lives of others as well as our own lives.

    Imagine a world without sickness.  How much less would we think of God if sickness didn't exist?  How much better is it for our souls to be strenghtened through trials than to live the little time we have here in comfort and giving very little thought to Christ? 

    One example that quickly comes to mind is Paul in the New Testament.  Although I'm not sure how long or the extent of Pau suffered from illness; physical suffering was all too familiar to him never knowing when he would be facing another beating due to his efforts to advance the gospel.  Death, he knew as something that could come his way at any time as well. 

    Unlke an illness he willingly suffered to advance the gospel ulimately living his life for God's glory.  In Philippians 1:20-21 Paul states....Christ will even now, as always, be exalted in my body, whether by life or by death.  For me to live is Christ and to die is gain. 

    For Paul, Christ was more than the center of his life.  He was the reason for his being and to live would give him more opportunities to share the news of Christ with others but to die would be for him to be in the presence of God who he loved more than anything.

    Paul also said in 2 Corinthians 4:16 -18   Therefore we do not lose heart, but though our outer man is decaying, yet our inner man is being renewed day by day.  For momentary, light affliction is producing for us eternal weight of glory far beyond all comparison, while we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen; for the things which are seen are temporal, but the things which are not seen are eternal.

    A more recent example of glorifying God through suffering would be Pastor Youcef Nadarkhani.  You can google his name and read more about how he has suffered being away from his family in an Iranian prison with constant wondering if each day is his last.  Rumor had it that he had been executed but it appears he is still living in this condition.  He was told if he would renounce his Christian faith he would be freed.  Knowing the pain his family was in and his life here was on the line, he knew something far greater awaited him than this world has to offer and he refused.

    I hope this makes sense.  I am so thankful you asked.  Please ask me again if this is confusing in anyway. 

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 814
    edited July 2012

    fondak  I think your answer to learnin's question is not only beautiful but accurate in which you put the most important thing where it deserves to be, FIRST. I particularly like that youve mentioned my most favourite of topics, something I am extremely passionate about. Gods will.

    The will of God surpasses the wisdom of Solomon.

    The account of Solomons wisdom and how God granted that to him, has always intrigued me and led me to think and meditate on the things of God, and for some reason it would always come to mind that there might be something thats more important overall and that supercedes everything else....sort of like a key. Solomon asked for wisdom, and yet in the end, though his wisdom exceeded everyone elses at the time, it still wasnt enough to keep him from erring. There had to be something more.

    If I was in Solomons shoes what would I ask for?  I always came back to the same thing time and time again. Gods will. (Not my will but Thine be done!) Gods will is all encompassing. There is nothing that can escape it. It is the B all and end all! There is nothing in the end that surpasses it or nullifies it. God will have His way. As such, I concluded that this whole life is a lesson about us coming to the conclusion its "Not my will but thine be done". The sooner we realise this the much better it will go for us. Ah but coming to that realization is one thing but putting it in practice is no easy matter, for there are many corners that need rounding off of us because we're simply born in sin and shapen in iniquity.  Its about handing over and submitting absolutely to His will.

    The best place to find out about Gods will is His book and there PLENTY to say about it. Nothing the Holy Spirit shows you will contradict His word, and Jesus says I am the Word. I cant emphasise enough the importance of Gods word. 

    Youve also touched on something that has possibly caused more strife and confusion and disillusionment than anything else in Christendom. Hyperfaith. LOL ...If I get started on that........... OK maybe a taster. According to the hyperfath movement, Paul must be seriously inadequate. Afterall he said:  2Ti 4:20 Erastus abode at Corinth: but Trophimus have I left at Miletum sick.   

    If I may, I would like to add a few Scriptures to this succinct statement.....

    QUOTE: Sickness can be a blessing to help us realize how much we really need a Savior.UNQUOTE

    Psa 119:71 It is good for me that I have been afflicted; that I might learn thy statutes. 

    and Jesus our Saviour is surely written in those statutes ....

    Heb 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.  

    Blessings all, Im off to bed.

    Musical

  • Kindergarten
    Kindergarten Member Posts: 2,883
    edited July 2012

    Dear Musical, these terrible fires are in Northern Colorado. We were just with friends at a wedding in North Carolina who are from Colorado and live close to the fires. So far they have not been evacuated, and they felt comfortable to leave their home to attend the wedding.Please pray for everyone affected. Thank you, your prayers are so appreciated. Thank you for your kind offer to meet if we get to NZ, I would love that. May you all have a blessed day.

  • learnin
    learnin Member Posts: 37
    edited July 2012

    Fondak - thanks for the reminder to look at Paul. May be time to re-read a few of his letters looking for his response to suffering. I appreciate the point that death was often imminent for him, and physical suffering daily. (and no morphine etc to help - yikes) Yet his joy was overflowing.



    I have felt more peace and joy the last couple weeks. Maybe it's the dexamethasone I am on LOL. Regardless, all healing comes from Him, whether via pills or prayer - and I am grateful for it. Grief and gratitude - a bit of both, every day.

  • fondak
    fondak Member Posts: 271
    edited July 2012

    Learnin - how I thank you for the question.  I wish I asked more questions through the years....brings me back to the ugly pride thing again.  I have so much to learn and when I hear other peoples questions it helps me.

    Right now I am doing a study on Philippians and I am loving it so much!  I think I posted before but it's been awhile and it's sure worth repeating but I am listening to John Macarthur.  He goes verse by verse and gives you the history behind the text along with how it connects with other parts of scripture.  I imagine it to be like a seminary class with a biblically wise professor.  Of course, I've never been to seminary but I've also never sat under such strong teaching either which is sad to say.

    If you go to www.gty.org in the search bar on the top right side you can put in Philippians (I use to spell it with two l's and it wouldn't come up...no one else would probably do that but if it's not spelled right it doesn't find it).  Then a table will come up and you can go down to the 2nd box that has the code 7165 in the column on the left, the far right column will say resource.  You can click on Philippians Vol 1 and listen for free as well as print a transcript if you like.  I had to because I was taking so many notes it was taking me forever to get through it.  I should have a Philippians notebook when I finish!

    GtY stands for Grace to You.  It is a wonderful resource on many levels.  You can find lots of free stuff there.  Macarthur is in California and has been at this church for more than 40 years.  God has really blessed him with knowledge.  Of course, he's not a substitute for scripture.  I'm not trying to exhalt him here either.  I'm simply confident in his teaching because he exhalts scripture.

    Sounds like dexamethasone is for the body like scripture is for my spirit....it really does.  If I get away from it I can tell.  One of my biggest struggles is worrying.  Also sounds like my body would benefit from dexamethasoneSmile.  I'm taking the generic aromasin and I am finding sleep difficult and joint pain more than annoying.

    Hope you have a good night's rest......if I can ever pray for you in any way please let me know.  I also have a couple of friends who would be glad to pray as well.  You can always send me a private message as well.  If you will please pray that I would stay focused on Christ and have wisdom in dealing with my upcoming tests.

  • fondak
    fondak Member Posts: 271
    edited July 2012

    Musical......I love what you were saying about Solomon.  My sons are 18 and one of my prayers throughout their lives has been for wisdom.  Thinking of Solomon I would add......with obedience that brings honor and glory to You, Father. 

    Also speaking of God's will, I was reminded of when Jesus was in the garden of Gethsemane and was praying..My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless not as I will, but as you will.  With that comes the ultimate example of suffering bringing glory to God.

    I found out I had cancer when I was released from the hospital after my lymph nodes showed up on a stress test.  That Friday I had a mammogram.  They ordered a ultrasound immediately after and did a biopsy.  I had to wait all weekend and would look at my sons wondering what we were about to face.  I felt sick and overwhelmed.  We had been through so much the 3 years prior and now this. 

    I remembered Christ's prayer and thought..........how small is this waiting compared to what he knew was coming and suffered for God's kingdom and how I didn't have to ever know what it is like to be separated from the love of God.

    It gave me such a greater affection for Christ.

  • fondak
    fondak Member Posts: 271
    edited July 2012

    Hi Ladies, 

    Oh, I know I keep posting here but memory is not one of my better qualities these days.  Thank you all so much for your prayers.  I can tell you, I  have had a much greater sense of peace these past few days and I am certain that I dealt with today much better as a result.

    I went for my mammogram and like before they had me wait and then the doctor wanted an ultrasound.  He believes I have a fibroadenoma but said with my history and the rate at which it is growing (it is really large for something not there a year ago) he wants to do a biopsy.  They also did an mri.

    He was going to do it today and I told him I would call my doctor and see if I can just go ahead and have this breast removed. He glad to hear I wanted that and didn't understand why I didn't have one before. There are several issues with it.  They are watching 3 other tumors and I now have this large hopefully fibroadenoma and an area of thickening.

    I called and my doctor is out of the country until July 16th and will be in surgery all day that day.  Someone from the office called me back and said I definitely needed the biopsy before he returned.  So, that's set for Monday and I think they will tell me something within 24 hrs.  At least, that's what their web page says. They said the mri will take at least a week and if there's any concern they will have to wait until the surgeon gets back to let me know the results, otherwise they will call me.

    Please pray I keep things in perspective and keep my focus on Christ. 

    Thank you all and I pray that you all have a good night's rest.  Words can't express how much you all mean to me.

  • learnin
    learnin Member Posts: 37
    edited July 2012

    Fondak - praying for His grace to surround you - and your family. With love.

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 814
    edited July 2012

    Kindergarten, lol, I thought NC was Northern California. Looks like theres a few of them. Yes I pray for those in the dreadful fires, that they will be safe and well.

    fondak big hugs again. You are going through so much.  Yes may God be your strength through all this waiting. The waiting is the worst part.  What exactly is a fibroadenoma? Oh I hope the thickening and things going on is nothing.

    Yes, if we're not obedient to His will then we keep hitting brick walls, something Ive done many a time . If we're wise we will obey what we know to be His will. We know what that is in general from Scripture, the Holy Spirit bearing witness. In our own personal lives that can be a different matter.....like its not written in Scripture whether Person A should travel to destination X with or without person B. Sometimes because of our human frailty we get this wrong.

    I too am struggling with Arimidex and joint pain. Since Ive been taking Nortriptyline in the last couple of weeks or so, it has made a difference but certainly not total and I dont want to have to ramp up this drug which is what Im suspecting is going to be the case to get the same relief. I'll just go off it and tough it out if I can. 

    Musical

  • macatacmv
    macatacmv Member Posts: 1,200
    edited July 2012

    hugs and prayers for all. Esp fondak for the biopsy today. 

    I have just started a new Bible study on Sat mornings with a group of women from church. It is a Beth Moore study that has been updated, I went through it years ago, but need to Break Free (again). It is helping me have more structured study of the word every day. We are reading through Isaiah. I am struggling with what God's will is for me now. why this all happened and why my body is so weak and not healing well or quickly. What am I "suppose" to learn from this? Maybe I just need to break free from the preoccupation of health concerns? 

    Nancy 

  • Kindergarten
    Kindergarten Member Posts: 2,883
    edited July 2012
    Dear Muscial, yes, too many abbreviations of states and places to rememberSmile Hopefully, these fires will remain under control and stable. Thanks for your prayers. Dear Nancy, how wonderful that you are doing a Beth Moore study!!! Your preoccupation with health concerns is normal and the fact that you are doing everything humanly possible to break free from them is pleasing to Our Lord. I went through the same concerns and fear. You are still so early in your journey and you are human!!! It does get better and better with time. I still recite this passage daily: Fear and Faith can not reside together. I say it over and over when I feel fear again, especially before onc appts, scans, etc. I am so glad that you can come here to express your fears and emotions. We are listening and praying and most importantly Our Lord is listening and hearing your every need. He is right beside you as you travel on this challenging journey. By this time next year, you will feel more confident knowing that Our Lord is healing you!!!! He promises never to leave you!!! God bless you, Kathy
  • Jeannie57
    Jeannie57 Member Posts: 1,314
    edited July 2012

    Dear Rocket,

    I am allergic to most antibiotics, too! I can take Cipro and Doxycycline but that's it. Who knows when I'll become allergic to those. It is a concern!



    I am praying for all of you, for your concerns, appts., issues. I am praying for you to experience God's strength, peace, hope, wellness. We have a wonderful Lord who loves us so very much!

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 814
    edited July 2012

    macatacmv greetings, and big gentle hugs.

    Now and again Im prompted write and expound on the things of God. I therefore say, as Ive said in times past, that anyone who claims to speak for God or writes about Christian things, should allow their work to be scrutinized by all. As good Bereans, the reader should be allowed to 'see if those things were so'.  Plainly, if I have erred from Scripture, (KJV) then I welcome comments and indeed correction.

    Act 17:10 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.
    Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

    Theres a large chunk of what God requires of us laid out Scripture. Some of it involves nothing other than straight out obedience, and when we dont obey, it doesnt go well for us. It's that simple. We all experience,as well,  'the hard road to one degree or another' because of our sin nature. That hard road is our 'flesh life' warring against the things of the Spirit., whether its lusts pride or whatever. Some of it is more convoluted. When it comes to our own attitudes about things theres plenty in the word about this, but it takes time to see and time to work it out in our lives. Otherwise known as growth. Like babes, we start on the sincere 'milk of the word' moving onto 'meat' as we grow. 

    The more we dig to find out about Gods will the more we find it is an immense thing, and all encompassing in everything with Whom we have to do. Over the last few decades or so there has been some really bogus and dangerous doctrines about Gods will in general and essentially healing in particular, basically culminated with an intensified hyperfaith movement, which has long since erred from the word, by not rightly dividing the word of truth. ( 2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. )

    The key words you will hear amongst its ranks have taken a foothold into every facet of life and become fully engrained into society as acceptable. Beware! There is nothing acceptable about positive thinking. The word is not mentioned ONCE in the Bible. Its comes from the 'speak it into being' crowd and is actually witchcraft, trying to get God organized where and when they please, like using a fourmula to make it happen. It has long been the dream of witches to manipulate reality. At the end of the day, positive thinking et al, either does one of 2 things.... Gives satan a platform to work either healing you or dangling you on a string. Yes satan can heal, but at what cost!!!!Either way, if you play in the devils playground he WILL eventually collect the rent.

    So, there's some factions who preach, overemphasizing  that if you are sick its because you dont believe anough or have enough faith. This has caused immense damage and disillusionment, both amongst the unsaved and saved alike. It has never stopped  bringing Gods name into disrepute.

    To get to the point, the fact of the matter is Paul suffered, and he is there as an example for us, like others. He suffered many things over and over again. Moreover, we have indicators that God answered Pauls requests but not how he (Paul) necessarily wanted. For example, three times he prayed for that thorn in the flesh to be removed. We needn't speculate as to what this was, but one thing we do know that it was, was it was UNPLEASANT. And why would God not remeove it? To keep Paul humble because of  the abundance of visions. God has His reasons for why we each go through things, and one of them is so we can be supportive of others. 

    2Co 1:4 Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.
    2Co 1:5 For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also aboundeth by Christ.
    2Co 1:6 And whether we be afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation, which is effectual in the enduring of the same sufferings which we also suffer: or whether we be comforted, it is for your consolation and salvation.
    2Co 1:7 And our hope of you is stedfast, knowing, that as ye are partakers of the sufferings, so shall ye be also of the consolation.

     

    This following list is extremely revealing and indicative of suffering which blows the hyperfaith movement clean out of the water.

    2Co 7:5 For, when we were come into Macedonia, our flesh had no rest, but we were troubled on every side; without were fightings, within were fears.  

    .....in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft.
    2Co 11:24 Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one.
    2Co 11:25 Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep;
    2Co 11:26 In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;
    2Co 11:27 In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness.
    2Co 11:28 Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches.

     

    You see, faith is given from God in the first place, and one way we can increase it is by reading the word .....Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. It is never (legitimately) something we can pump up or manafacture or make happen by our will power or somesuch.

    Blessing to all. 

    We heard here yet again on the news headlines how a good part of America is still enduring shocking temperatures many places over 40degr Cels. Dear Lord, I pray especially for any BC ladies in these areas, and mostly those without power. Please speak to them in their hour of need Lord! Please comfort them and be their strength. Thankyou Lord. Amen and Amen.

    Musical

  • Kindergarten
    Kindergarten Member Posts: 2,883
    edited July 2012
    Amen, Amen to you all and your wonderful posts. Thank you, Jesus for putting all these wonderful Christian women in my life!!!!!! Blessings and hugs to you allSmile
  • Mini1
    Mini1 Member Posts: 1,309
    edited July 2012
    I just found this page. It is so nice to find sisters in Christ that are sharing and supporting each other. I am 55 and was diagnosed with Stage 1 IDC in March. I am halfway through my radiation. I'm leaning on the Lord and trying to be a good witness through it all. I don't know how anyone gets through this without the Him. Like many of the other posters I don't ask why me? Why not not me? It has not been easy, but I have seen God's hand throughout this whole process. Thankfully I have both a strong biological and church family to support me and show me God's love with skin on. :-) Blessings to you all.
  • Rocket
    Rocket Member Posts: 910
    edited July 2012

    Hi Ladies, my husband reminded me of what you just stated Jo. I was feeling really down and overwhelmed the other night, anticipating our upcoming move next week and so many changes. I also need surgery on my other foot in December (my sixth surgery in 2 1/2 years). I was just feeling quite overwhelmed and not very spiritual. My DH, who is a wonderful, supportive and godly man, reminded me that I shouldn't have faith in MY faith, but rather faith in He who is the giver of faith. Sometimes my faith is very small, when anxiety beckons, and I need to remember that it doesn't matter how small it is. I just need to remember the One who is faithful. I am saved by grace, through faith, and that not of myself, but rather it is a gift from God and not of my works that I may not boast. Love to all you Ladies. Thank you for all who continue to lift me up in prayer. Blessings!

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    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 814
    edited July 2012

    If we look at the big Hebrew chapter on faith, in EVERY instance God showed these people first, one way or another, what was going to happen or what they would experience in some way. Eslewhere, it is an erroneous notion that Peter "stepped out in faith" with the connotation that we should do so too... like 'blind faith'. Peter, like the folk in Hebrews all had their 'comes'.

    My understanding is that the issue is not the size of the faith, as in a one size fits all,  its how much faith God has given us in the first place, for a particular event, and what we do with it. Not only that, but we should take into account that God gives faith proportionately and we are to act accordingly. The apostles and others were reprimanded at times for having a lack of faith.

    Rom 12:6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;
     

    Interestingly faith is the only thing listed as both a Spiritual gift and a Fruit, and yet though we have faith that can move mountains it means nothing if we dont have charity.

    Blessings

    Musical

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 814
    edited July 2012

    Hello Nlee,  welcome.

    Lol, In all honesty I'm one that certainly has asked God why me? Sometimes I just havent measured up and yes Ive had to repent. Especially when I have an elderly christian mother who has outlived one christian daughter with this mongrel disease faced with the prospect of out living another. Its not that I asked that for myself, but for the sake of my loved ones around me, and the particular horrendous trials that have hit us all. It is because of this, I will empathize with those who are hurting, even angry and downtrodden and misunderstood about all of this.

    Blessings

  • fondak
    fondak Member Posts: 271
    edited July 2012

    Love and Hugs to all you ladies here!

    NLee  I'm so glad God brought you here!  I too am new to this page and have been greatly blessed by these ladies and the work God is doing in their lives.

    Rocket: I am so sorry to hear of all the difficulties you are being faced with now.  I will certainly be in prayer for you regarding these matters.  I wasn't aware of all that you have going on!  You're faith may have felt small at times but your obedience to remember your sisters here in prayer has encouraged many....ME being one of those.

    Musical:   I love, love, love what you shared with us today!  Scripture always encourages! It is so true that out of context many are disillusioned which is so sad to see.  I have had many well meaning friends that said they knew I would be healed because I belong to Christ and "by his stripes we are healed".  I would say yes...from this we have spiritual healing and I though I desire physical healing, I know God is good no matter what. Undivided Scripture .....It's the best medicine I have!  Still at times I have found find myself neglecting it.  I can certainly tell when I do!   

  • fondak
    fondak Member Posts: 271
    edited July 2012

    I forgot to update you all on what's been going on with me.  Today when I went for the biopsy, another dr came in and said that the lump appears to be a fibroadenoma as well.  The lady who did the ultrasound quietly told me, "It is a fibroadenoma." I asked if they could tell anything about the thickened area of tissue my gyn was concerned about and she told me that she could see it clearly and it was normal tissue.

    I should get the biopsy results tomorrow or the next day and the mri results in a week or so but I feel so very, very good about it.

    Thank you for your prayers.  

    I hope everyone who has been suffering from allergies are finding some relief.

    Much love to you all!

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 814
    edited July 2012

    fondak, hugs. How did your biopsy go? I Will be really praying and hoping that it is nothing. Its a bit of a nuisance because Im out of sync with you girls and your times. I really should get something organized. Your today could be my tomorrow.

    QUOTE I would say yes...from this we have spiritual healing UNQUOTE

    Smile bless you, you're onto it.

    I remember a couple of huge threads here a couple of years ago, and I didnt read them all but what I did read  absolutely amazed me. Notwithstanding the fact that these were not Christian threads,  I have to say that these girls were right on the button. In short there are some major things happening in this world of ours as the days get more evil. I feel many Christians have been anaesthetized one way or another into apostacy, and this area is no exception, and yet these ladies, even though they didnt know where the stink was coming from, they could sure smell the rat. The stench of satan mutilating language. The written word. Communication turned on its head. If Gods word is so important (and it is) then it stands to reason that wirely ol devil has attacked Gods word from the outset. "Yea hath God said".....  

    Anyway, the thread is called something like "Be positive Oh SHUT UP!"  I tell you, like multitudes of Ladies, I have had to deal with this garbage right through the ordeal of BC, from well meaning people who also had BC to the RIFE use of the phrase through the med profession.  I used to ( SOOOOOOOO) get angry when I heard this 'new age' phrase, but fortunately Ive learned a few things and  Ive got beyond that now. I just 'educate' people what it is they are really saying to people. Positivism has its roots in one of the most serruptitious insidious false religions there is. All it is, is just another rendition of self on the throne dressed up in a new (acceptable)guise so people will swallow it...hook line and sinker.

     I just love King DAvid, when he affirmed time and again throughout Psalms how he "loved Gods precepts"in the biggie Ch 119.

    Blessings. 

    Musical

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    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 814
    edited July 2012

    Fondak, sorry my post mustve crossed with yours. I'll come back later.

    Musical

  • Mini1
    Mini1 Member Posts: 1,309
    edited July 2012

    I haven't asked why me, but I have said more than once that cancer sucks. :-) I'm no martyr, believe me. I'm scared, confused, tired and apparently a little vain since I'm not liking what the surgery has done to my body, but I'm doing the best I can, which is why I'm here. It's like Mother Theresa said: I know God will never give me more than I can handle, I just wish He didn't trust me so much. :-)

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 814
    edited July 2012

    Nlee, you might not have said why me?, but youve said why not me? which to me is worse. For starters why ask for trouble? beats me. Not only that but just kinda reminds me of that parable of the Pharisee and the Publican. 

    Blessings Musical

  • Mini1
    Mini1 Member Posts: 1,309
    edited July 2012

    Musical - I just meant why me in the sense of why am I more deserving of not having cancer than anyone else? I certainly hoped and prayed for a negative result, but God obviously has another plan. I have heard people say why me? I'm a good person. I don't do... When in fact none of us are exempt from this disease. Matt. 5:45 says that... He causes the sun to rise on the good, and makes the rain fall upon the upright and the wrongdoers.

    I don't ask for trouble. Quite the opposite. I also know that my having this disease doesn't mean that I asked for it to happen. Quite frankly, that type of thinking is something I would expect to hear from someone that has not had to deal with this disease. You are certainly entitled to your own opinion, but to suggest that I have somehow brought this disease upon myself is, imho, both hurtful and insensitive. I came to this page to find commraderie and compassion, not condemnation. Perhaps this page is not for me after all.

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 814
    edited July 2012

    You said back a page " Like many of the other posters I don't ask why me? Why not not me?"

    then 3 posts back....."I haven't asked why me" now your saying just above " I just meant why me" ... whatever Undecided

    You have missed the point of what Im saying, read into things that I never meant, and have decided to be sensitive and defensive about this.  On the contrary, if you are willing to see it, I see this as condescending to those of us who have asked why, and if I may appeal to your sense of fairness and judgement .... that its not only those who say  "Im a good person, and dont do....." that ask why me, but those of us who have been the worst type, the sinner, the ones who dare not lift their eyes to heaven,  the ones who in their frailty and weakness who have been flattened again and again and again dare to ask in their grief why me? whom Jesus came to save, not the self righteous. Moreover, the people who are saying theyre good, and dont do.... are more likely to be the unsaved, who dont understand when Jesus said theres only One who is good, the Father. 

    If it helps, Job complained and bitterly at times, and  most certainly would have asked why me, yet God said at the end, "in all this Job sinned not".

    The beauty of the word is it cuts across opinions because thats all they are .... opinions.....which in the end mean nothing. Its the facts that have substance. 

    Blessings, Musical