So...whats for dinner?

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  • minustwo
    minustwo Member Posts: 13,322

    Laurie08:  regarding husbands & shopping - when we moved to Texas in the 70's & I signed up for a grocery store check cashing card, the lady in the booth asked me why I didn't want to list my husband.  My answer was - if he ever shows up in the store she should call the police because I would be dead.  He didn't even like to stop for milk on the way home from work.  His reason was - he didn't drink it.  Funny about men.  Given my age, maybe it's a generational thing since my 40 yr old son does much of the shopping for their house - or they go together.  Hope you're feeling better.

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 9,646

    Yesterday made a huge pot of homemade Vegetable soup.............good shin meat with the bone, and every kind of veggie you can think of..............nice pot herb, and I was set.............

    I used carrots, peas, lima's, corn, string beans, turnips, potatoes, cabbage, canned tomatoes,celery, onion, shallots, garlic, and barley........................it was amazing................enough for an Army, and i will probably give it all away.............

  • chabba
    chabba Member Posts: 3,600

    ducky, Wish you lived here so I could try to talk you into helping cook at the Center.  Soups are our main staple and it sounds like you make lots of good ones.

  • debbie6122
    debbie6122 Member Posts: 2,935

    Lauire-Wink!!

    Michelle-See, i do learn things everyday, didnt know you couldnt get strep if you already had it as a kid, This is like going back to school again only this time im not in the bathroom smoking! LOL! (quit 4 years ago)

    Minustwo- My DH likes to go but only with me, he has to nit pick everything i get though, he always says what is that going to be for or why are you getting that? It irratates the heck out of me.

    Ducky- The soup sounds good and hearty, i agree with CHABBA, wish you lived closer then we could all have some.

    DH decided to take me to the casino, (Not the one he works at) We ate at the buffet and boy was it terrible the only thing that tasted good was the dessert and that wasnt all that great, had a good time but didnt win any money.

  • Laurie08
    Laurie08 Member Posts: 2,047

    Deb- Your pot roast sounds good, how did you cook it so it came out medium rare?

    My Dh is great about stopping and picking things up if I ask him.  He just doesn't like shopping with me because everything is planned and I stick to a budget.  He says it's no fun and usually by the time we are done shopping together we are both irritated and we spend alot more money.  He's right, it is easier without him when it comes to shopping!

    So, today I need to restock the house and come up with my meals for the week.  You can tell we had a bad week last week, this morning I actually had to go out to my car and get a diaper from the bag I always just leave in the car for grocery shopping etc.  I am completely out!  So grocery store and Sams club is on the agenda for today.

    I asked my boys for dinner ideas and they suggested cheeseburgers.  I am thinking I will make those one night this week with the potato wedge fries recipe.

    Thanks to everyone for all the thoughts and hugs!

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 2,409

    Laurie - glad you're feeling better and getting back to normal!

    Debbie - Too funny!  I think I'm just not very susceptible to strep...the kiddies have had it more than once each just in the past couple of months!  I think the "house" is sick...LOL!

    I'm making lasagna for dinner tonight.  My DH will be very, very happy. 

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 1,466

    popovers?  i  didn't know anyone made those anymore.

    yum

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 1,466

    i can't stop thinking about them

     i need to make something super unhealthy life pork tenderloin sandwiches.. or something.

  • Laurie08
    Laurie08 Member Posts: 2,047

    what exactly is a pop over?  They look good and I don't know if I've had one?

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 1,466

    if you make them with beef fat and pot them in popover (muffin tins) in a super hot oven) they are so delish.. They are kind of like cream puff dough but softer..  They are very old English countryside.. British cooking at it's finest.  roast, gravy, vegetables,  popovers..

    you really shoudn't eat that stuff.. just like the pork tenderloins i am going to make tonite.. I've  had this craving. 

    and pickles

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 2,409

    Popovers - I've made them before but didn't use beef fat.  My recipe was something like this:

    http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/melissa-darabian/fool-proof-popovers-recipe/index.html

    They're actually pretty easy to make, so long as you remember that you can't open the oven door to take a peek or they will likely fall.  Lovely little things, dripping with butter.

    Talk about beef fat, my dad used to make "suet pudding" for Thanksgiving and Christmas.  It's about the same as plum pudding, and we ate it warm covered with "hard sauce" which was nothing more than a mixture of butter, brown sugar and vanilla. 

    My lasagna is in the oven and smelling really good.  It's not exactly a low-fat version, either, with hot Italian sausage and two pounds of different cheeses!  But it will be yummy!

    Apple - I lived out in your neck of the woods for 17 years and never once ate a pork tenderloin!  But I sure liked the fried chicken!!!

  • Laurie08
    Laurie08 Member Posts: 2,047

    my DH would be so happy if I made those popovers!  perhaps I will give it a go?

    I used to roast pork tenderloins all the time and have lost my taste for them for some reason.  Now I buy them to do pulled pork in the crock pot.

    Making Debbie's Belgian chicken tonight, yum.

    Michelle- Lasagna is one of my favorites, enjoy!

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 2,409

    Laurie - I think the pork tenderloins that Apple is talking about are a little different than what you are thinking...not a roast but a fried thing, sort of like a chicken fried steak.  Here's a recipe with a picture:

    http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/midwestern-pork-tenderloin-sandwich/Detail.aspx

    They are very, very popular in the midwest. 

  • Laurie08
    Laurie08 Member Posts: 2,047

    that actually looks pretty darn good...lol!

  • deborye
    deborye Member Posts: 2,441

    Michelle~was the tumor marker test called CA 27-29?  A year ago mine was 45.3 now it is down to 41.2, my onc is pretty sure it is elevated slightly due to B9 reasons.  I do have uterine fibroids.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 2,409

    Deb - yes, that's the test.  Mine was up around 65 or so last year before my surgery in April.  It can be unreliable and give false positives; but in my case, when it trended up it was telling us something. 

  • Lacey12
    Lacey12 Member Posts: 2,895

    So what is that test and who should be having it? I am not even aware of it...

  • debbie6122
    debbie6122 Member Posts: 2,935

     Lacey- I copy/pasted this to help understand a little better- Hope this helps

    What is the CA 27.29 blood test? Should I have it done?

    The FDA approved the CA 27.29 blood test in June 1996. It is the first and only blood test that is specific to breast cancer. (The two other blood tests that oncologists may recommend for women with breast cancer, the CA 15-3 and the CEA, are tumor marker tests that are used in breast and other cancers.) The CA 27.29 test measures the level of CA 27.29 antigen, which is found in the blood of breast cancer patients. As breast cancer progresses, the level of CA 27.29 antigen in the blood rises. In theory, by monitoring CA 27.29 test results oncologists can determine if the cancer has spread to other parts of the body, which is called metastasis. [Important point: If breast cancer metastasizes to the liver, it does not mean you have liver cancer. It means you have breast cancer cells in your liver, and the treatment used would be treatment for breast cancer, not treatment for liver cancer.]

    Unfortunately, the CA 27.29 test is not as reliable as we initially hoped it would be. In statistical terms, it is neither "specific" nor "sensitive" enough to accurately determine if metastasis has occurred. What does that mean?

    If a test for metastasis is highly sensitive, it will be good at finding those women who have metastasis and it will produce very few false negatives (women who are told they have negative results when they really don't). A test needs to be highly sensitive to rule out disease. In other words, when a test is highly sensitive, if a woman tests negative it means she does not have metastasis.

    If a test for metastasis is highly specific, it will be good at finding those women who do not have metastasis and it will produce very few false positives (women who are told they have metastasis when they really don't). In other words, when a test is highly specific, if a woman tests positive it means that metastasis is indeed present.

    Since it is not highly sensitive or specific, the CA 27.29 test can go up for reasons other than metastasis, resulting in false positives, and it may not go up when there is metastasis, resulting in false negatives. The CA 27.29 test has been proven to be helpful in following increases in metastasis in women who have already been found to have metastatic disease, allowing doctors to better adjust treatment regimens.

    In addition to having the CA 27.29 test, your oncologist may recommend that you have the CEA and CA 15-3 tumor marker tests done as well. Neither of these tests is highly sensitive or highly specific either. If you choose to have any of these tests done it should be with the knowledge that there is currently no test or scan that can reliably tell us whether a small number of breast cancer cells have gotten into, and have begun growing in, other parts of the body, and that the information you receive may not be accurate.

    Should you have the CA 27.29 test done? The American Society of Clinical Oncology recommends against routine testing of markers after a breast cancer diagnosis. Some oncologists recommend that women have this test every three to six months with the hope that they will find metastasis early. The problem is that there is no evidence that finding metastases by a blood test before a woman has symptoms will improve her survival or quality of life. The treatment of metastatic disease is aimed at reducing symptoms and putting the woman into remission. It is hard to improve symptoms if a woman does not have any. Most women whose breast cancer has metastasized do not show any symptoms until the disease is quite extensive. Symptoms of metastatic disease include bone pain, shortness of breath, lack of appetite and weight loss, and neurological symptoms like pain or weakness or headaches.

    There are a series of tests that can help find large amounts of cancer cells in other parts of the body. These are called staging tests (this is not the same as the stages of breast cancer), and include chest X-rays, which can find cancer in the lungs, blood tests that can determine if the cancer has spread to the liver, and bone scans, which can help ascertain if the cancer has spread to the bone. CT scans are also used to detect the spread of cancer to the liver, the lungs, a certain area of bone, or even your brain. Like the blood tests, though, these tests are not good at finding small numbers of cancer cells.

    Ultimately, the only way to determine whether having routine CA 27.29 testing is right for you is to think about how you want to handle the aftermath of your breast cancer treatment and whether a test that has limitations will be helpful for you. Some women find reassurance in having the CA 27.29 test done; others find the thought of having the test stressful and choose to not have it done. There is no "right" choice. If you do decide to have the test done, here are a few things you should know:

     
  • Lacey12
    Lacey12 Member Posts: 2,895

    Thanks Debbie!

  • debbie6122
    debbie6122 Member Posts: 2,935

    Lasagna sounds really good might make that this week with some garlic bread yum!!

    I havnt had popovers in forever, never made them but have had them several times, one day i will give it a go.

    made breakfast for dinner tonight, i also had a craving for some not so healthy foods tonight, made chicken fried steak, ( pounded out some good steak) it was so tender. Also made gravy, bisquits, scrambled eggs with sausage, and hashbrowns. Sooo good!!

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 2,409

    Lacey - it's a tumor marker test called the CA27-29 

    "A tumor marker is a substance that is produced by the body in response to cancer, or is produced by the cancer itself. Some of these markers are specific to one cancer, while others are seen in several types of cancer. These markers are generally used to evaluate the patient's response to treatment or to monitor for recurrence (return of the cancer after treatment). There are non-cancerous conditions that can cause markers to be elevated, so these must also be considered when interpreting the test results. Tumor markers can be used in conjunction with other tests (scans, biopsies, etc.) to help diagnose a patient who has symptoms suspicious for cancer. Some markers can help physicians to determine prognosis and treatment.

    "The CA 27-29 is a tumor marker that is most often used in people with breast cancer. In general, the number is not elevated in people with early stage cancers. If someone had an isolated recurrence that resulted in an elevated level and the tumor was surgically removed, the CA 27-29 could go to zero, or within normal range, after surgery.

    "In metastatic cancer, the CA 27-29 level does not ever go down to zero, but it can dip back into the normal range. More than the actual number, we follow trends of the marker to see if it is going up or down, or remaining stable. The result may be used in conjunction with radiology studies if recurrence or progression is suspected.

    This test is far from perfect, as some women with metastatic disease never have an elevation in the tumor markers. Benign conditions, such as ovarian cysts, fibroids, liver and kidney disorders, and benign breast problems can result in elevated CA 27-29 levels. It can take 1-3 months after starting a new treatment for results to begin to decrease, so we typically wait 2-3 months to recheck CA 27-29."

    Some MOs routinely do the test on their patients, some don't.  My markers have shown to be indicative of progression if they go above 38, so mine is doing the test every 3 months right now. 

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  • Laurie08
    Laurie08 Member Posts: 2,047

    I know it's probably overkill with my diagnosis- but it irritates me that no one tests or looks for anything.  I hate that everyone uses the word "should" with me- you should be fine- it shouldn't metastasize etc.   I don't know....

    Debbie- breakfast for dinner sounds awesome!

  • debbie6122
    debbie6122 Member Posts: 2,935

    Laurie- I agree, my Onco i had in ky was awesome he believed in testing TM and checking vit d levels and if i had a pain i was worried about he would have me tested, the onco here wont do it and if i mention somthing he acts like im paronoid or somthing.

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 1,466

    but Laurie.. you SHould be fine.. that is good.  Just be super aware of absolutely everything going on in your body.. check for nodes, keep a journal if you want.

    you're right about the tenderloins.. they were so darn good.  my kids thanked me for making them.. I really never do the deep fried thing at my house but i got this huge double gallon of peanut oil for a really good price.

    Actually, (i was a former chef and have managed restaurants) realize the market for a good pork tender sandwich in my area.. there is only one out of the way place that sells them to go.. and the profit margin is pretty good.  There is a closed Burger King on the main artery that has been closed now.. 'm thinking of investigating opening a joint.. lol.. but am serious.  My kids would have a business to run that could finance education and such.

    i pounded out the loin, dipped it in flour, then egg, then panko bread crumbs and quickly fried it.. put in on some paper towels and then into the oven while the others cooked.  i brought bread rolls, and cut onions, and had pickles, lettuce, horseradish on the side. Man, they were terrific and tasted very non oily.  The good thing about peanut oil is that you can cook at a higher temp, and less grease is absorbed.

    It will be hard to top that tonite.

  • carberry
    carberry Member Posts: 997

    Apple Go for it....with the business.  I like the sound of the pork, have never used peanut oil. Do you taste the peanut? cause I do not like nuts of any kind!   I made sweet and sour pork last night, it is my husbands favorite and I have not made it in a long time.  There is a little leftover and he made sure to tell me to save it for him for tonights dinner....yay no cooking tonight. I will do a salad.

    Laurie I agree...everyone seems to have a pretty lax attitude towards our concerns. Happy shopping.

    Oh Apple   craving pickles?  Is there something your not telling us?

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 1,466

    pickles?  i am about to turn 56!  those days are long gone, tho i had my youngest right before turning 44.

    I called on the joint i was eye- ing just this morning, talked directly to the agent/realtor.... way too expensive to invest in for a year.. something smaller will have to do..  i need a drive thru tho.

  • Laurie08
    Laurie08 Member Posts: 2,047

    Apple- absolutely go for it!!  Back when I was working full time I had the idea to have a restaurant with a drive through that had healthy options.  I hated when I had no time to eat and would end up going through McDonalds but only allow myself a cheeseburger- no fries because I didn't want the fat.  I think it would make huge money to be able to drive through somewhere and get a turkey wrap with sprouts for example.  Good luck with your idea and keep us posted as you go!

    I am going to try the potato wedges tonight- for those of you who have made them, do you think the sage will be "too much" for the kids?

    It's sad and nice to see I am not the only one who feels like they wish they had more testing or screening.  The only person who has ever done blood work on me was my primary dr- not even the onc who I saw the one time did any blood work. 

    My SIL e mailed me this am with some not good news about my MIL.  My MIL was diagnosed with uterine cancer about a year ago, stage III.  They had run some regular scans checking to make sure all was well at the 6 month mark and found two nodes enlarged.  They waited two months and just gave her another scan and those nodes have shown growth she says and there are a few nodules on her lung that they now want to biopsy.  The whole thing makes my heart just drop into my shoes.  My SIL has only told my husband that "they saw something and want to do some tests."  Because of my history with cancer I have become the person she is turning to, which I am glad she knows that she can.  My MIL does not want anyone to know what is going on until she has all the info.  She claims right now that she will not to chemo- no matter what.  My mind just keeps thinking sh!t sh!t sh!t!!!!!

    Thanks for letting me vent....

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 2,409

    Laurie - that is so sad about your MIL.  She can't be very old, probably younger than I am.  If there is anything I can do to help, please let me know.  If chemo comes up (and I'm guessing it will) maybe you could show her my blog and some of the pictures.  Maybe it won't look so scary to her.

  • debbie6122
    debbie6122 Member Posts: 2,935

    Apple-Good luck on your adventures in finding the "Perfect" Place for the opening of a drive-through, how fun and exciting!

    Laurie- Oh im so sorry, I hope she will be ok! Just said a prayer for her.

  • Laurie08
    Laurie08 Member Posts: 2,047

    Thanks Michelle and Debbie, I truly appreciate it.  Michelle- she is older than you are, 73.  I married her baby who is 5 years older than I am her oldest of 5 is 53.  Over the years one of the things she has done for work is take care of older or sick people.  One of the ladies she took care of needed someone to help around the house while she went through chemo, rides to the Dr if needed etc.  She helped the woman for about 4 years and became very close to this lady. The woman ultimately passed from BC.  Unfortunately this lady did not respond well to chemo, my MIL says that this woman was painfully ill from it constantly and it was a nightmare to watch, she is terrified of that being her.  My mom was alot like you Michelle, it didn't make her very sick she was always go go go and had a smile on her face and itching to go do something else.  I reminded my MIL of that when she was initially diagnosed and they weren't sure about chemo her response was "yes, but thats not the norm."  I'm afraid she can't be reasoned with....she had another Dr appointment today a 3:30 my SIL is supposed to call/text/e mail me after with the info.