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Wren, another tip off.. my ex boyfriend's mom's dog usually pays me no attention. In August I was at their house to drop off my daughter and this dog was all over me. Even my ex mother in law was bewildered...hindsight.
Shepkitty, Thank you! Yes, it's very true, can't do anything about the things I didn't do, but have to do my best going forward and fight for my little girl. I think it's still hard to wrap my head around. But fight is what must do. My daughter really wants me to get a purple or blue wig.
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See what I meant, Karen
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you asked. Here’s Evie. They were down in the LA area sightseeing for other DGD birthday.
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Awwwww
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Cutie pie and she has a halo, awww!
Karen, Shep, that post was deleted by the Mods.
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Kath, she does have a halo 😇.
I saw the post last night and I had a feeling it was not legit so I ignored it. It could have been a totally different person (rather than the one shown on the avatar) behind the screen. Creepy.
Shepk, I don't like toplay sheriff. Used to play police at my work when we were much busier. We had a lot of frequent flyers. Most have similar stories and like to wear shades indoors. Some are overly friendly.
That bunny is bossy and has the confidence of a giant. Ha! DD saw the second video and thought the dog was a pig. Hahaha. Chunky little guy.
Karen, prior to diagnosis, I had a "rash" (non-itchy) on my left bicep on the same side as tumor. Looked just like I had broken capillaries. Had never seen a rash like that before. Also, I was tired and sleepy most of the time. Who knows? Could be coincidence.
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Loved the video of the Sheltie. Showed it to my hubby who smiled.
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Hi MammaRay
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Loveroflife,
Odd thing, I have had the broken capillaries after the lx. And I still have the sore arm, but read lots of things online that said that was normal for after breast surgery in a lot of cases.
I have to really listen to my body. It worked for finding this when I did. There were no signs or symptoms that they tell you about and I didn't see anything wrong with my breast, just in the shower one day and in my head felt something was off. LIfted my hand and put my index finger right on the lump. It was the weirdest thing ever. I don't think I would have found this until it was too late otherwise. I consider myself, at this moment blessed. I don't turn 40 til November, so I had a long time where I could have put that off...
I think we definitely need to lower the age on mammograms and raise the research on late stage breast cancer. I was told that generally the cancer (my particular cancer) won't have a lump that is palpable until after it's already become invasive. To catch it sooner, I couldn't have. Wasn't old enough to start getting them. I did have one done at 35 as a baseline because we felt something fishy. Thought my Gyno was sure it was nothing, he still was good enough to take the opportunity for a covered mammogram.
Anyway, enough of my rant. lol
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I'm the antithesis of disliking politics. I was oblivious until Jan (+ or -) 2015 , Then got in so heavy. Reading far left to far right.
On a spectrum :
left________________________________center_________________________________far right
Communist...............................................me pre2015.......................2017me...........................KKK
Marxist..............................................................................................
..........socialist
Antifa
BLM
globalist..............................................................................................capitalist
Soros(seeks to destroy western civilization).......................................Trump
..............Hillary
.............Obama
............All the Bushes
.............Carter...
.............Gates
.............Bill Clinton...............................McCain.................................Graham
..............Bezo(owns Amazon and Washington post)
..............Zuckerberg(owns fb)
Bernie(1st registered communist in congress, changed to socialist prior to election)
................................Putin(communist with marked capitalist leanings)
...................... ........Xi Jinping(Communist, but introducing a more and more market economy(capitalist) just as the Russians have done
................Jerry Brown
................Kate Brown
................Di Blazio
The left tries to paint all people that identify as right as associating with the KKK. Fartherist(sic) thing from the truth. We don't support KKK any more that moderate socialist support BLM or ANTIFA,
We support first and foremost the Constitution, Legal immigration, we do not support illegal immigration, we support free speech, a free, but truthful press, 2nd amendment rights. we don't support globalism, we support term limits, we don't support abortion( 3 qualifiers usually supported are 1. incest, 2. life of the mother, and 3.catastrophic damage to the fetus).
We support the Electoral College as the founding fathers intended. Each state has the right to an equal vote for the president. If the Electoral college were done away with, approximately 5 counties in the country would determine the presidency.
Fact all communist states fail eventually. Small societies can survive socialism i.e Denmark, Finland, Sweden. But when the tax burden exceeds >50% and as high as 84% on all producers i.e, working people beside businesses. Society can't absorb people that want more freebies. Yet the European Union wants these countries to take more.
Austria is one of those countries. Last Sunday Sebastien Kurz ( my new hero , next to Trump). Has declared that Soros is to be out of the country in 30 days. They will no longer accept migrants
The Vz4 Slovackia, Hungary, Czech Republic, and Poland now refuse and have refused migrants. Because they disrupt the societies and refuse to assimilate. Italy, Spain, and Greece are following.
Now if I wrote anything that you didn't know of and you say I hate politics. Your right.
The problem is the world is at war. In the western culture it's called a soft war versus the guns and drums of the middle east.
Antifa has declared war on Nov 4th. There targets are police, ems responders, and firefighters and government buildings. There stated goal is the overthrow of Trump and Pence. Until the 4th we won't know what is up.
If you choose to ignore this threat, you could be at risk i.e.in the wrong place at the wrong time.. Personally, I'm in a safe place.(I hope).Let me give you an example of MSM misinformation and maybe a conspiracy theory. Next post
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Caught up on reading.
Shepkitty - that bunny !!! LOL the sheep are like awwww come on! And I bet this was just killing the dog to down stay. Needed a good 5 min of fun.
Karen - I had a lot of lightning pain shooting through breast and arm pit. And my pit smelled weird even after swimming and very clean. Fav foods were upsetting me, got a little dizzy sometimes, unusual quirky things you say flu or whatever. In homeopathy they treat the whole person, none of the specialists of treating pieces and parts.
Mommy - in my humble opinion the family could be scheduling around your schedule, like a few days out from tx, they could ask.
WELL IT IS OFFICIAL - I had the liver biopsy and THEY TRIED TO KILL ME, it was like being harpooned to a table and unable to breathe. The pathologist had to go in just under breast next to the compromised bronchial tube w the cancer scarring so maybe that made it worse. Tried to go in at R side of breast but I coughed and he got another doctor in there and they changed course. Of course, I went through it with only lidocaine injected in the site. Too many drug sensitivities and I did not want to be put under due to COPD that gets worse each time. So no narcotics, valium-types or pain killers at all. But if they had told me that this was not going to be a needle inserted and fine biopsy removed, repeat, etc. like I had of an axillary lymph node and hilar node while awake then I would not have done it at all. If I would have coughed I think it would have killed my liver and maybe me???? I warned them I cough at every turn and have coughing seizures. But I suppose they did not believe me. And the only reason I think that maybe I was not coughing while the needle was stuck in my liver lesion is that I was screaming in the most controlled effort. I will not post this on liver mets like I am here and on SteamRoom, it will freak them out. But this pain experience was the worst of my life, more so than childbirth, C-section, tubal ligation surgeries, broken ankle, broken arms and migraines. I am quite pissed.
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Bluebird, that was unconscionable. They could have used Versed with an anesthesiologist or CRNA in attendance to do the drugs. RAISE hell with administration. Start with "I told them" follow with "The first rule of medicine is do no harm" 2nd Rule of medicine "if you listen to your patient they will tell you what's wrong"
DAMN and another DAMN then add a fuck you. You should not have had this negative experience. Damn them. I am so pissed. I'm loosing my gentility these days. Swearing more. Just tired of errors.
Look I know you think he was going near a bronchial tube, but the liver sits under the protection of the ribs. Going under the breast sounds strange unless you have pendulous breasts that needed to be lifted away and that seemed why they were going that way.
The abdomen and chest sit in different compartments the dividing portion between the two compartments is the diaphragm.
Was it CT guided. Meaning was it fluoroscopy guided?
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Yes, CT guided. And the R breast is very small now since 3/4 my breast tissue was removed in lumpectomy. L small too, but on terms of C cup-ish small.
You know, there wasn't even an anesthesiologist present for the just in case there was trauma to the patient. Come to think of it. This was not at all what I thought it would be.
Giving the pathologist one credit - he knew I did not want to undergo anestesia as I am protective of my lungs and breathing capabilities.
But he must not have believed me that I cough endlessly. I stressed it and got the ok to take in my throat spray for just in case. But did not realize what the procedure was.
But the rest of my medical team let me go in there too. DO, RO, nurse navigator, onc nurse, my DNP. What were they thinking, should have told me it was not safe or even possible.
Friday and yesterday I thought I would never be the same again. But the coughing pain from after effects has stopped and I am back at it. Pissed off like a wet hornet.
Going to have dinner and watch a movie and chill.
Thanks Sas for the feedback and ideas.
BTW when the pathologist came in recovery later I said, So it's the torturer. Call it like it is.
Oh....... and nurse Cathy. She was going to get me up to go to bathroom and said the coughing wouldn't do that much damage. I said BUT I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO MOVE. And she huffed and went and checked w pathologist and came back telling me I was three hours strict bedrest, bedpan only. Seriously. How does shit like that got lost in translation? and what if I were not the type of patient who speaks out? and just gets up and goes to the bathroom when I am not to move?
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Okay this is the most simplistic0 -
next level
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The above picture shows the diaghram. It is the great nuscle of breathing.
The abdomen and the chest are separate compartments. But many very special organs are protected by the rib cage that protect the lungs. Liver and spleen are the biggest
Tthis picture is is reverse(back), I couldn't find a better picture---
The point being is how the liver is protected.
In a liver bx. A doc knows the anatomy.
Blue your words of pain ......Do not equate to known standards of care. NADA
WTF...................Shaking my head..................sad
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We can only save our selves.....I lived my whole life in nursing. Did I make a few errors. YES, But not intentionally. AND all was so OCD not to make errors. Looking back how heavily the burden was about care..............I would have done something totally different. I changed so many lives and the world, but nso wishing I'd just stayed in the operating room.(department).
As a group they were unique. No matter the problem we were all on top of it. No matter the emergency you knew they had your back.
But then I wouldn't have graduated 300 paramedics, in an area that had the highest standard in the country, with the most forward thinking docs in the world. C.C. Roussi -Gus- a founding father of the American College of Emergency Physicians. I miss him so. His ethics.......He was hated for his ethics...........He and 7 others are responsible for all of Emergency Medicine.. Every ER residency trained ER doc was b/c of him and 7 others.
Roussi tried so hard to get it changed to ED, Emergency Department. It never happened .
We helped write the first Prehospital Trauma Life Support book. I have my original edition. I do hope son understands how that changed the world. Last I looked 500k adopted the standards in the USA. Then in the early 1990's the military adopted the model. Of course, modalities have evolved, but it was nice to be there at the beginning.
Edit : I got nostalgic and went looking: Dr. Norman Mc Swain died in 2015 @78. He was the medical director for PHTLS.. Last I saw of him was in Katrina, He stayed with the last evacuated.
From Tulane News during Katrina: : "Dr. McSwain, by the way, was one of the true heroes of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. The day after the storm hit, the levees broke and the city flooded. While others headed for the high ground, Dr. McSwain headed for Charity Hospital to make sure that his patients were safe. He stayed there at the hospital for the next six days, helping to keep them alive during the blackout and then helping to evacuate them to safety. Dr. McSwain did not stand down until every last patient had been evacuated."
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Sas - the lymph mass that was radiated in April 2017 was on top of the right primary bronchial tube. The insertion with "needle" or arrow or whatever that was, it was about three inches below the radiation tatoo. Just measured. And a little toward the center. Goal was biopsy of the 7/8 liver section. And yes, I could see the lesions and needle moving on screen above my head. Until I was screaming that is. There was this point where it went from some discomfort to sheer agony and I was in perpetual childbirth breathing coupled with screaming to get through it. It was like an arrow had been shot through me and I was unable to move or breathe without horrible pain and breathing was compromised. What do you think happened? He did say he was thinking of going with a drug started w an F and was an analog. But he did not.
Emergency Department makes more sense and commands the role of the ER. You too have made a difference.
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And furthermore, on the subject of Hubby.....
He wheels me up to surgery registration and announces, "She is here for a heart bypass."
After he told me enough times, make sure they are doing the right thing to the right side.
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I'm sorry too Bluebird. That sounds awful.
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Bluebird so sorry you had to endure that trauma. My God how did you manage to come out of that with your sense of humour intact? You are truly amazing. Maybe you should have taken hubby's suggestion and gone to coronary care instead, couldn't have been any worse, or could it?
Hope you are getting over the trauma and getting a bit of TLC instead.
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What horrible experience you went through, Bluebird. Gosh! Can't believe that actually happened in a First World country. I am glad you are still here with us. Wishing you speedy healing and favorable path report.
Ms. Sas, there is no perfect government because we human are naturally selfish. The problem has always bethe human's heart.
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Thanks guys. Today I spoke with the pathologist. He said the location was deep in liver - the path there ended up being through diaphragm which he could not numb. He tried the right side of breast but it was too close to lung. I informed him that I did not know what I was about to face off and I needed to be told everything to make an informed decision. I told him what it was like and how bad it really was for me. He has apologized. I am going to take Sas's advice and get my very own nurse anesthesiologist. to make a formula for me to have in these situations.
Someday I will have humour over this. Now I am tired.
Perhaps in my last life or many lives I was a terrible terrible doctor who did a lot of harm and now I am getting mine. grin
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Hi Blue, yesterday was a sleep day. I was out of melatonin and took Ativan. Hadn't used it for quite awhile, Zonked.Then followed by the Big D all night from eating tomato soup. That's the last of that soup.
This is only a guess, but sounds like he hit a nerve. But if that were the case, I think it still would be a problem. But there again might not. Might have just severed it. Chit. Well that would be the last of liver bx's for me. I doubt you will be given an adequate explanation. Hate to say that, but true. I've never heard of anyone having the difficulty you had.
The F was most likely Fentanyl. A combo of Fentanyl and Versed are a standard approach. Fentanyl and Diprivan is another common approach. All should be used by an anesthesiologist or CRNA. with monitoring.
Blue sorry
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I know what to pack for the trip...just in case. Love people like Dr. McSwain. That is a true hero and a good role model. I wish all people who go into medicine have similar passion and love for others.
ShepK, here is sheriff for you!
Morning Everyone!
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Thanks Sas. My liver hurts. I am taking it easy still. I want my Ibrance! It worked on the liver activity. I feel like having a tantrum.
The cough refelx rx is on table but after I am done w antibiotics. They have helped but not the cough. So next visit on Nov 2 she will write that rx.
Hubby got up and vacuumed at 2AM while I was online waiting for cough spasms to stop. We're a team. I slept until 11ish today. Going to make mulled cider, watch movies and perhaps play Rummy. Wish we had glazed donuts but I am off gluten so would have to make or hunt special. Popcorn will do. And as always brush the Newfie. Chilly, blustery here. 48 real feel in 30s. Tonight real feel 23 so bringing in herbs and chives today.
This is a huge painting I did a few years ago - forgive if I posted already. Want to do one of Autumn and same barn.
When DD was young we designed this cottage imagery at the public library, we had fun. It was her nature collection w my cottage collection.
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Loverly, funny you should choose a cowboy hat McSwain was known for wearing a cowboy hat, boots, jeans, and a cowboy belt buckle in New Orleans. Slow drawl. Easy manner.
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Please, pray for a member of Mags family.
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Shep are you still on the ground? Tornado in SC
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Shhhh. She is sleeping.
Nice painting, Bluebird
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