Treating estrogen responsive cancer naturally
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I saw goat milk at Whole Foods yesterday, now I wish I had purchased to try.
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Nimmichstp....I refused anti hormone therapy from the start. I'm doing several things to lower my estrogen naturally. Please let me know if you want more details.
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Monsanto and GMOs
https://foodrevolution.org/blog/monsanto-gmos-vide...We used to live right down the street from the cornfields of Monsanto. And sometimes the planes were spraying while people were driving to work. There were lots of nice breezes to blow the poisons around.
Watch the video, and only eat GMO free
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Dtad- I would like to know how to lower estrogen in the body. Also if we have our ovaries ut how much estrogen is actually there anyway? My nutritionist said it's so mini mama don't arimidex is not doing anything.
Ladybird- why is wheat bad for us
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Scaredashell--Our ovaries aren't the only parts of our bodies that produce estrogen--this is from the Journal of Steroid Biochenistry and Molecular Biology:
the ovaries are the principle source of estradiol, which functions as a circulating hormone to act on distal target tissues. However, in postmenopausal women when the ovaries cease to produce estrogen, this is no longer the case, because estradiol is no longer solely an endocrine factor. Instead, it is produced in a number of extragonadal sites and acts locally at these sites as a paracrine or even intracrine factor. These sites include the mesenchymal cells of adipose tissue including that of the breast, osteoblasts and chondrocytes of bone, the vascular endothelium and aortic smooth muscle cells, and numerous sites in the brain. Thus, circulating levels of estrogens in postmenopausal women and in men are not the drivers of estrogen action, they are reactive rather than proactive. This is because in these cases circulating estrogen originates in the extragonadal sites where it acts locally, and if it escapes local metabolism then it enters the circulation.
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Remember, it is not the fat in fat cells that secretes the androgen which is converted (in the presence of uninhibited aromatase) to estradiol & estrone—it is the mesenchymal, or stem, cells in adipose tissue (made up of fat cells). There is no way to lose fat cells other than by surgery or cryogenically killing them—we can only shrink them by burning the fat in them during the process of weight loss. And sadly, we women, when we gain weight, can not only refill the fat cells (hypertrophic obesity) but also make new ones (hyperplastic obesity).
Marion Nestle’s earlier writings about the evils of dietary fat reflect the opinions of nutritionism at that time. Research has changed since then. But she was ahead of her time about processed food and sugar.
And getting back to the acid vs. alkaline food chart, I notice that many of those foods (especially fruits) listed as “alkaline” are actually acidic. Apples have malic acid. Cherries have oxalic acid. Grapefruit—citric acid. I'm pretty sure all of these when squeezed onto pH paper would turn it some shade of red.
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In some foods there is a conversion to alkaline in the body, I think it applies to apple cidar vinegar as well. Here is an example
WHY IS LEMON WATER ALKALINE?
There is regularly misjudging of lemon's pH outside the body versus inside the body. How about we get this straight. (This does not apply to lemonade)
Outside the body, lemon juice is acidic (pH is beneath 7). This is a non-issue. Everybody knows this. It's a citrus fruit.
Inside the body, in any case, when lemon juice has been completely metabolized and its minerals are separated in the circulation system, its impact is alkalizing and in this manner raises the pH of the body (pH over 7 is soluble). If it's not too much trouble, recognize the distinction.
Why is it essential for body tissue to be soluble instead of acidic? Indeed, for science aficionados, we realize that in long haul acidic situations, typical cell structure and capacity are harmed.
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The use of apple cider vinegar does not only limit to its cleaning power, it is recommended to become part of the diet due to its alkaline content. Apple cider vinegar is an alkaline forming food that balances the alkaline and the acid present in the body. According to a theory, the human body must have a pH balance higher than the neutral which is between 7.35 to 7.45. The pH reading lower than the neutral means that it is acidic. If the body is acidic, then it means that there is a lower supply of oxygen and fluid that flows within the body.
Thealkalinefoods.com
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Www.livewell.jillianmichael.com
LIST OF ALKALINE FRUITS & VEGETABLES
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Improving your acid-alkaline balance may decrease your risk of headaches, bone loss and other health problems. These issues may occur when your body is too acidic. Some harmful bacteria, fungi and yeasts thrive on the acid in your body. Consuming more alkaline foods may help balance the body's pH. Talk with your physician if you are concerned about the pH balance in your body and discuss any changes you make in your diet.
Definition
The pH scale ranges from 1 to 14. Acidic foods, such as lemons, have a lower number while alkaline foods, such as bananas, have a number closer to 14. Neutral foods are around 7 on the pH scale. Your diet should consist of up to 80 percent alkalizing foods, suggests naturopath Dr. Christopher Vasey. Eating more alkaline foods may help reduce the production of acid in your body. Foods classified as heavy alkaline foods have a pH of 8.5 to 9.0. Food considered moderately alkaline have a pH of 7.5 to 8.4 and lightly alkaline foods have a pH of 7.0 to 7.4.
Fruits
Fruits that are heavily alkaline include watermelon, cantaloupe, mangoes, pears, grapes and passion fruit. Dried fruits like dates, apricots, figs and raisins are also considered heavy alkaline foods. Apples, fresh apricots, bananas, berries and avocados all have a moderately alkaline pH of around 8.0. Light alkaline fruits include cherries and peaches. MyPyramid.gov recommends eating a total of 1 1/2 to 2 cups of fruit throughout your day, and selecting alkaline fruits can help balance your body's pH.
Vegetables
You should consume 2 to 3 cups of vegetables each day, MyPyramid.gov notes, and adding more alkaline vegetables can help balance out acid in the body. Vegetables that are high in alkaline include endives, asparagus and alfalfa sprouts. Moderately alkalinic veggies include celery, sweet potatoes, pumpkin, corn, carrots and turnips. Cucumbers, leeks, mushrooms, okra, onions and artichokes are considered lightly alkaline foods.
Considerations
Additional high alkaline foods that may help your pH balance include parsley, 100 percent vegetable juice, garlic and ginger. If you are trying to balance your body's pH, you need to make changes to your diet as a whole. Consuming a few alkaline fruits and vegetables once in awhile may not create the changes you desire. Including alkaline fruits and vegetables as part of an overall balanced diet may be more effective than sporadically including them in the diet.
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scaredasshell07....Hi there. I have lost 30 pounds since my diagnosis and try to exercise daily. I take several supplements including DIM in leu of an aromatase inhibitor. I also take baby aspirin, turmeric, mushroom extract and berberine which regulates my blood sugar. So far so good. I'm a firm believer that we need estrogen for every other vital organ in our bodies. I also believe balancing our hormones is very important. Good luck to all
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Thank you dtad. How hard was it for you to decide to take the natural way? I'm with you, we need the estrogen, there are receptors everwhere including our brains. Losing weight and exercise seems to be most important. Our healthy cells thrive on oxygen, the abnormal cancer cells thrive on sugar. I am reading Tripping Over The Truth, the Return of the Metabolic Theory of Cancer
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went to my nutritionist who is a biomenficsl scientist with two phds. Studied in Vienna and has been in practice for 28 years. Wants to detox me from chemo by taking glutathione for Tthree weeks and then another supplement to boost immune system and the bad anti inflammatory piils coenzymeQ. Has anyone heard of these types of treatments and also in his diet for me he says to avoid or peppers tomatoes fermented foods like apple cider vinegar balsamic vinegar salad dressing's catch up A1 sauce barbecue sauce and mustard mayo. Says all cheeses are acceptable. This is his anti-inflammatory diet. Has anybody heard of these types of foods being removed from your diet.
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dtad are you the person who posts about natural treatment for estrogen? My oncologist has basically left me with nothing available since I broke out with dermatitis all over from arimidex. I'm desperate and need advice
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Speaking of foods, why is wheat bad unless you have an issue with gluten? Next, what's wrong with red meat like buffalo meat that is organic and grass fed (hormone free). I thought that's they key, not that it's meat.
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There's a book called Wheat Belly.....apparently wheat can cause all kinds of havoc in the body Seems it's not processed like the old days too. And some people are more sensitive to gluten. Meat can have a lot of saturated fat, too much fat is not good I guess. ( I don't want the meat and bread police on my back.) Personally I think meat in moderation is OK.
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As for meat, I always get the leanest meat, never full fat. The lowest I can find is 7% fat even in the organic and grass fed category. I love meat and try to cut down but don't succeed for long. Same with all the other no nos.
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I think we should be more concerned with losing weight. The AIs work better on lower BMI. Losing weight with healthy food, andnot high sugar content, that is.
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kira1234....yes I don't take any anti hormones. As stated above I do several thing to lower my estrogen naturally. Please feel free to PM me if you want to talk more. Good luck to all
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marijen....it wasn't hard for me to decide not to do anti hormones. However there were several reasons why. My age, 62, my current health and mostly QOL issues. I also think weight loss and exercise is key which is very difficult while taking aromatase inhibitors. Please feel free to PM me if you want to talk more.
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Artista928 I do not have a Gluten sensitivity. I stopped eating a lot of wheat about 2.5 years ago to lose weight. I was amazed how much better I felt very quickly. More energy especially. I still eat foods with wheat in them every so often with out any issues. I do notice I do not feel as energetic if I eat wheat to many days in a row.
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From the ketgenic diet:
Lower insulin levels –the less sugar you eat, the less blood sugar you have, lowering your insulin levels CRP and HbA1C protein levels decrease –and as these are both indicators of the risk of heart disease and inflammation, the lower the better Higher energy levels –you will most likely be shocked at the amount of energy you will have and how quickly symptoms of fatigue and lethargy disappear Lower levels of pain and stiffness in the joints –this is another great benefit of a ketogenic diet. Because you are cutting out grain-based foods, one of the biggest causes of chronic pain and illness, aches, pains and joint stiffness are significantly reduced. Thinking clearly –brain fog is a huge side effect of a high carb diet. Some of you may not know this but, by weight the brain is more than 60% fat and, in theory, the more fat you consume, the better your brain can look after itself and work at the capacity it is meant to. The more scientific explanation has to do with essential fatty acids and neurotransmitters in the brain and this article in Science Daily explains the relationship. Better sleep patterns –sleep disturbances and conditions such as sleep apnea are believed to be affected by grains, the heartburn caused by them and the hypoglycemia that a high carbohydrate diet causes. As well as sleeping better at night on a ketogenic diet you will also find that the urge to nap in the afternoon disappears as well. Weight loss –and this is the benefit that we all associate with a ketogenic diet. It is a fantastic benefit on its own but, add it to all the other benefits above and you can easily see how beneficial a ketogenic diet is for your health.
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what is a DIM
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DIM is a combination of crucerifous vegetables that help balance estrogen levels. The theory is that there are good and bad estrogens. The bad is what causes hormone positive BC and the good is what the rest of our vital organs need to stay healthy...
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Is there a supplement for DIM or is it through foods? Read somewhere it takes 2 lbs a day of veggies to get the Rec amount
Anyone taking magnesium and b12 for joint pain?
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You can find it at Amazon. I am taking magnesium, I'm sure it makes a difference. I take B12 for other reasons, don't know if it helps joint pain - doesn't help me I don't think.
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I'm looking up magnesium and the supplement mostly come with b6 or b12 and zinc. Should I get one with only magnesium. c is good but not sure about b6
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You're right about the B 12 but for bone health you also need D3, K2, calcium, with the magnesium. Where are you looking? You can read the reviews and learn a lot.
I think there's a topic here somewhere, I'll post it.
And found this
Vitamin B12 and Bone Health
Vitamin B12 deficiency is an important risk factor in osteoporosis. When the level of the vitamin falls, the deficiency triggers the demineralization of the bone.
The Framingham Osteoporosis Study is one of the many studies that have established the link between vitamin B12 and bone density. In that study, the vitamin B12 levels in 2500 study participants were measured along with bone mineral density.
This study which was published in the Journal of Bone and Mineral Research, found out that people with low levels of vitamin B12 also had low bone mineral densities.
Besides improving bone mineralization, vitamin B12 also prevents the inflammation of the joint. It does this by inhibiting the immune cells responsible for inflammatory reactions.
Therefore, vitamin B12 supplements are effective for relieve both acute and chronic joint pain.
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Bone health and bone loss forum
https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/120Bone loss causes pain in my experience. VIt D3 made a big difference ofr me. Then I learned you need all the others (above)to make sure the calcium gets to the bone.
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Diets are NOT “one size fits all.” Some people have no trouble with the gluten (a protein formed from the glutenin and gliadin in doughs & batters made with wheat flour that has had the chance to be “worked”) in wheat and other grain products. In non-gluten-sensitive individuals, the higher the gluten content (doughs like bagels, sourdough breads, etc.) the slower and milder the insulin spike. Some have no problems digesting lactose & casein in dairy.
But in general, the more refined the carb, the more quickly it is converted by salivary & gastric enzymes to triglyceride or glucose, which insulin then either “instructs the body” to burn (rather than one’s fat stores) for energy or convert it to fat to be stored.
We evolved to eat animal flesh & plants (leaves, stalks, roots and occasionally fruits). We did not begin eating seeds till they began to be cultivated, which marked the anthropological shift from hunter-gatherer to agriculture. Grains & legumes are seeds that are cultivated—much more of our diets come from wheat, corn & soy than it did a century ago. And those seed products include oils, additives and processed foods, not just flour products. There is as much corn product in the convenience mart at today's gas station as there is in the ethanol in the gasoline.
As to red meat, the amount of fat content (and its saturation) is not the problem. Not all saturated fat is bad—in fact, the fat in 100% grass-fed beef (grazed on organic pasture), the butter from its milk, and pastured eggs are naturally very high in Omega-3 fatty acids, which are anti-inflammatory. (Growth hormone is now prohibited in even grain-finished beef and chicken, and antibiotics are no longer routinely fed to poultry, which are actually omnivorous. Pigs are not given antibiotics, as since they’re omnivores they handle a grain-diet without getting sick). Wild fish eat plankton & other organisms and cold-water ocean-going varieties are high in Omega 3s—but farmed fish are often fed grain, for which they aren’t evolutionarily suited, and are lower in Omega-3s and higher in Omega 6s.
Fat per se is not the villain—rather, trans fats are highly inflammatory (promoting formation and breaking off of coronary arterial plaques & clots); and seed oils (grapeseed, cottonseed, sunflower, safflower, corn) are high in Omega-6s, which are inflammatory. Assuming red meat comes from an animal that ate nothing but completely organic (no pesticides, chemical fertilizer or hormone residue in the soil) pasture grasses, any carcinogenic risk comes from the high heme-iron content as well as chemical compounds formed when cooked in direct high heat (especially over flame or charcoal). And it raises one’s colorectal cancer risk “by 6%.” That’s 6% of one’s preexisting risk—so it’s much lower than alarmists would have us believe.
The obesity epidemic can be directly tied to the dawn of the low-fat trends in the late 1970s. Sugars & starches replaced fats in order to replicate fats’ texture & mouthfeel. And those carb product portions grew in size. In 1971, on Weight Watchers one standard bagel was 2 starch exchanges. That would be today’s “mini” bagel. An average bagel today can top 500 calories—without the cream cheese. Same with muffins, waffles, restaurant baked potatoes, pasta portions. And a “large” fountain soda 50 years ago was 12 oz. (a small was 8-10). A 16-ouncer was unheard of (much less the Big Gulp). Nobody gave free refills. And in 1994, a Grande (16 oz.) was the largest size drink Starbucks offered (and in the case of an iced Grande, much of that was the ice itself). Now a Venti's (20 oz.) supremacy is threatened by 24-or-even-30-ouncers.
There are, of course, religious, environmental and ethical reasons to spurn animal flesh, or at least mammalian meat & poultry. But it’s not a matter of health…ours, that is.
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scaredasshell....yes there is a DIM supplement. I buy mine on Amazon. Good luck to all
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