new and future flat sister, with questions
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I am a bad news reporter.. sorry... our girl texted a couple of hours ago.. she is nauseous and pain is 8
This has upset me, I knew she would have a bit of difficulty, but 8 seems too much .. I hope it gets resolved for her. I think by the time she is beyond all of this, I will be rid of any lingering thoughts of having recon.. that's for sure.0 -
I reply to myself in rapid submission.... Page 111... this is going to be a lucky page filled with all good things.. HA!0 -
Idesim,
Thank you for the Bobo update !! Pain of 8 is way too much . I hope they can manage it for her and certainly I hope she is not home yet (as IV meds are more effective)
Hello to you all !!!
Marika finally came and Wheew it fit !!! Will write more later, trying to focus and get some crap done (house is a wreak, need to de hoard and clean, need to cook , need to get groceries ) However it is so freaking cold here all I want to do is keep layering on more polar fleece over my cuddle duds !!!0 -
So glad to hear the Bobo has been in touch. She may not be feeling too bad. I am so glad she didn't have any nodes to contend with. I think we all agree that they were the worst part for us, don't we? I know the recon is said to be very painful, but I hope that her fitness may have helped with that.
I am looking forward to her being home in the tiny house, tucked up in bed getting better!
Zills, sorry you didn't get out to breakfast. I hope the baby is shaking off that cough, it is such an awful sound isn't it!
ldesim, I wondered about whether Bobo's Mother and Brother were banned from the Hospital too!
I am so impressed by your Candy Cane Gifts. I am going to go out and buy lots of candy and do those for the kids of Colin's attendants. Maybe even a Tim Tam sled! They have them in little snack size packs now Thanks for the idea!
I went out for dinner last night at one of the other members of Colin's model yacht club home. I have never seen a more decorated home. There were huge Christmas trees in almost every room and a massive one in the alfresco eating area. Each one was decorated in a different theme. It was a great night where I met a lot of new people which was nice, but the flashing of Christmas lights from all the different tree through the expansive glass was a little distracting.
Today is our monthly Farmers Market, so I am going to get ready and take Dex there for a walk. His fur is looking far less manky, I am sorry I didn't get a pic for you.
I hope everyone is well and warm! Chat later....M x0 -
Oh pain level of 8 is too much! I am so worried that her pain meds will cause trouble... hope they have that under control! waiting for more updates, thanks gals so appreciated.
Idesim , I love those little sleighs, what a great idea, think my grandaughter are getting these! I am the most uncreative, crafty person in the world, but maybe can pull this off. Thanks again.0 -
Oh, FFFFFF'ing crap balls!
Here was I about to leave, happily thinking Bobo wasn't doing too bad, and I read she has a pain level of 8, that's not good enough I feel like doing a Shirley MacLaine, screeching at the Nurses station for more meds.....NOW!!!!!!!!
Nausea should have been addressed first....I am not happy!
Oh Bobo, if you are reading, I am so sorry. I was hoping you may have gotten a break and there wouldn't be too much pain for you. Gentle hugs across the ocean...M x0 -
Idesim, I think I have to agree with you about any lingering thoughts (which I admit I do have at times) may be down the drain too. Be very interesting to follow her journey.0 -
The pain meds I started with made me throw up. Hopefully she'll get some relief soon.
Those sleds are cute! I would be afraid to have that much candy in the house. I've developed a sweet tooth at night. DH cut out fast food and pop. He makes oatmeal for breakfast and I pack his lunch. He's even doing sit-ups.
Idesim I think that JS move has really made the difference. It takes the heat out. I practice it faithfully every night. It takes an hour but I sit and watch tv. I hold my scar, my collarbone and my armpit for 20 minutes each. The pinkest, itchiest spot is towards the middle of my chest. I didn't hold that spot as I thought it was outside my area.0 -
Fiaranch, so glad to hear you got your Marika and it fits!! Yay! Do you like it?
I am definitely hearing someone who is about to "overdo"! Please don't do it! ......Speaking from experience here, and the one who named the "CLaw" please take it slow..it is very early days for you, and although all that stuff irritates like mad, can it can wait a bit?
I know it is hard, we all fell for it and were all paid with a visit from the "Claw" which is only able to be described as a sharp painful burning thing that seems to grip the chest and underarm after a bout of "overdoing it!" It nearly always strikes at night, after a busy day of doing housework, or house tidying or the biggie, raking leaves!!!!
Not meaning to sound like a busy body, but just trying to save you from the "CLAW", cue the scary music......M x0 -
Fiaranch, so glad to hear you got your Marika and it fits!! Yay! Do you like it?
I am definitely hearing someone who is about to "overdo"! Please don't do it! ......Speaking from experience here, and the one who named the "CLaw" please take it slow..it is very early days for you, and although all that stuff irritates like mad, can it can wait a bit?
I know it is hard, we all fell for it and were all paid with a visit from the "Claw" which is only able to be described as a sharp painful burning thing that seems to grip the chest and underarm after a bout of "overdoing it!" It nearly always strikes at night, after a busy day of doing housework, or house tidying or the biggie, raking leaves!!!!
Not meaning to sound like a busy body, but just trying to save you from the "CLAW", cue the scary music......M x0 -
you're so funny M with the scary music. I doubt anyone will heed your advice. They feel too good! Lord knows it hasn't stopped any of us.
The chocolate cream cheese is made by Philadelphia and sold with regular cream cheese. It comes in different sweet flavors like white, dark or milk chocolate and dulce de leche. He takes it for a snack on graham crackers.0 -
Zills.. a sweet tooth at night?? what is up with this? That is a BIG problem with me, dont care about sweets during the day, but boy at night I just crave something sweet and I even wake up about midnite and wish I had a candy or something. What can we do about this? I have tried putting a sugar-free Werthers hard candy in my mouth and sometimes helps but I just am so bad about wanting to eat sweets at night! Should we give in or keep trying to fight it? I have never heard of chocolate cream cheese either, sounds delicious of course.0 -
Bobo has a fever. 101.4. Poor girl. It's as bad as having a sick child. We can't do anything.
I don't know if the sweet tooth is because I'm tired or hormones or didn't eat enough? I should clarify I want cookies to dunk. Had pie and ice cream in the house but couldn't be bothered. We don't usually buy cookies because most are contaminated and they don't want "bad" snacks at school.
Have you tried brushing your teeth or chewing gum? And yes I wake up at night. Usually I can avoid it but wonder if I did eat something, would I fall back asleep faster? I drink some kefir if I'm desperate. It's a lactose free yogurt drink. The baby loves it but the boy doesn't, even though he eats yogurt.0 -
Why the high fever? Does that mean she didn't get over that cold properly? Did anyone else have a fever? I got a bit of infection, but I didn't have a fever.
I hate feeling helpless!
I am the worst sweet tooth, and if I don't step away from this laptop I will miss my fudge lady!...Gotta go...will be back..M x0 -
M ,
I do like the Marika. I was worried as I ordered the hoodies "lazer cut kind" Trying to go foobless and wanted a billowy look . So they fit fine but would NOT fit if I were to wear foobs . I think we should start a petition for Marika to "Redo" their sizing chart it is ridiculous . OMG that "CLAW" it has been 6 weeks for me and I still get it . A new thing OMG with this below zero weather the PAIN when I go outside is crazy . So I have been layering .
Zills 104 fever OMG I hope they have her on antibiotics as this could go real bad fast !!!
ND and Zills, Regarding sweets I am not a sugar addict (but I can't stay away from chips and cheese) but my mother is . She has been mixing sugar free jello instant chocolate pudding with plain yogurt (versus the milk called for in pudding) and claims its good ?
Idesim absolutely NO lingering thoughts for me either !!!!
Take care all ............. Off to prioritize my week OMG I have GOT to get productive !!0 -
ldesim, those sleighs are really cute! I may do one for each of my DS's!
Thanks for the bobo update. 8 really seems high to me too, hope they get that # down. I'm with you on the recon too. Every once in a while when I look at the flat I wonder if maybe I do some tiny A cup implants. And as soon as I think that I think surgery, more pain....no way! I hardly even think of flat anymore, it is so natural to me.
Oh dear the fever is troubling. I didn't have any fever at all. You may be right Ariom that she wasn't all the way over the bug she had. I was so hoping she would sail right through this with few problems.
Being diabetic, I don't eat regular sweets. I make some candies with Xylitol or Stevia that satisfy my sweet tooth. Having the candy for those sleds won't tempt me a bit. Not worth going blind over!!
((((((bobo)))))) thinking of you.0 -
Oh no, a fever, that is never good. I cant imagine they would do surgery if she showed any signs of cold, etc. I remember that was one worry I had, because they told me to stay well, and the spring weather was horrid, cold, snowy, rainy, just the worst and of course not sleeping well didnt help, but I managed to stay well. so hope it is not staff infection, or is it too soon for that to appear? any nurses here? But wont borrow trouble on that note,
Zills, cookies to dunk, yep, I made Christmas cookies today, I put them in the freezer which is in the outside garage and hoping it is too cold for me to trip outside at night!! When we were in WI for TGiving, we are just across the river from Stillwater, MN which is one of the neatest towns I have ever seen, anyway they have a little candy store there that makes the best fudge..not a good place for me, also in Hudson, WI there is a chocolate shop that makes their own candy, fudge, and that is to die for!! Ariom, hope you got your fudge today!!
((( hugs to Bobo))) no squeezes yet tho.0 -
ndgirl, I'm here, eating Macadamia fudge! Poor Dex is pooped, out cold on the slate floor. It was so hot out there, and we walked to the Market, just a couple of km, but the weather got us. No breeze and over 30c. By the time we had done all the stalls, it was such a loooooong walk home. I was carrying tomatoes, asparagus, apples and apricots, so pretty heavy, and Dex kept looking up at me with those "Carry Me", pleading eyes!
I love to dunk coookies in tea! gB, I can't take xylitol, it affects my stomach really badly, but Stevia is fine. I never eat any aspartame, I hate that stuff.
Fiaranch, I agree about Marika updating that size chart. They are saying that their XL is for a size 18 to 20 in Aus size. Some of their tops in those sizes don't come close to fitting me and I am NOT that big!
I am no nurse, but I would have thought it was too early for any infection to have gotten a hold yet.
I remember visiting lovely chocolate shops when I was in the US. I love Godiva chocolates. Back when I was spoiled rotten traveling in First Class, with United Airlines, Godiva Chocolates were always served. I used to snuggle down with a movie, a cup of tea and chocolates on that loooong flight. The others were mad for the Moet champagne, and the Blue Label Scotch, but I'd have Godiva anytime! LOL
Zills, I wish I could drink Keffir, it is so good for you. It is a really good way to get good probiotics into your tummy. I don't have any straight dairy products. I seem to be able to take dairy that has been cooked into things these days.
You're so right about no one taking any notice of the "Don't overdo it" warning. We all had to learn the hard way!
Fiaranch, I only really lost the "Claw" a month or two ago, and can still get a bit of it, if I really, really overdo it.
I am still feeling so bad for our girl. I hope she isn't suffering too badly. It is hard to believe it is just so different when you reconstruct. I so wanted her to feel really good after it.0 -
oooo a Tim Tam sled!! You're supposed to hot glue them together, but I don't like the sound of that.. I think I'm just going to tape them together and then tie it tight.
Ndgirl, I am not particularly good with these types of things (have trouble even tying bows) but seriously.. those look like something nobody could mangle. I just have to make sure I buy just enough candy as I will need.. I won't touch it if it's meant for somebody else, but if there are leftovers.. I will consume them. All at once.
In my 20's I used to get up in the middle of the night and stuff my face, I haven't done that in many years.. my problem is that midpoint between dinner and bedtime when I get hungry.. luckily it doesn't need to be something sweet.. so I can most times satisfy it with fruit. I get the major sweet cravings after having pasta it seems.
Fiaranch, I'm glad you got your Marika fix!!! I too am a chips and cheese addict. I love cheese and anything covered in cheese and cheesy chips!
M, sounded like you had a nice evening, I would loved to have seen some of the trees... were real or fake? We go to a festival of trees up by where my SIL/BIL live and the themed trees are so pretty. In addition to the real tree, I used to do a fake tree in the kitchen with popcorn and cranberries and cookie ornaments.. it was cute, but I don't go overboard anymore like I did when I was younger.
I'm not sure what would bring on the fever.. I agree they wouldn't have operated if she had a fever to begin with. Earlier when she texted.. she had said she threw up applesauce, has not eaten any food and has a pounding headache. She also said they were going to put Tylenol in her drip, but she is allergic. She has said in the past that she is allergic to a lot of the meds... does an allergic reaction bring on a fever??
It is amazing how different the experience is with recon. I remember scaring myself silly reading the surgery boards because everybody was having such difficulties with pain and movement and it was several days before I realized that it was the women having recons that were having such trouble. I'm afraid to say she might be in for a tough week, which breaks my heart.
Ndgirl, what kind of cookies.. sugar? I made oatmeal raisin and started on some truffles that I'll finish tomorrow.
Friggin hell!! I just did a paragraph for Zils and GB and I somehow deleted it.... as M would say FFFFFFing BALLS.
I don't even know what happened to this day, it just flew by0 -
Condensed versions... geezus I am pissed...
Zils, the JS for sure is working because for you to be at the point in the treatment that you are and holding up as you are is pretty damn amazing. The women in the thread going through it with me, all had their skin breaking down by this point. I was a little luckier, but I still had the rash like itchy issue and my underarm was in bad shape. I remember I was so damn happy when they switched to boosts because my underarm was no longer getting radiated.
I have never seen the choco cream cheese or the other ones.. I think the only thing I've ever seen is chives. Forget ever losing weight if they ever carry choco cream cheese in a store by me.. I will probably eat it like a candy bar.
GB, I honestly don't think I would entertain recon whatsoever if both had been removed. Even lopsided as I am, I forget half the time and way too many women have complained about the recons feeling like rocks on their chest.. which just scares me. Like Ndgirl, I am interested in hearing how Bobogirl's journey goes.0 -
Part of what creeped me out too was having some foreign object under the skin on my chest. I am sure there are many, many women that have no problems with recon. They aren't on forums complaining and looking for solutions, so we kind of get a skewed view sometimes here. Recon just wasn't for me.
I just hope bobo can get past this difficult time quickly and get on with healing.0 -
I'm thinking of making my Mom's oatmeal cookies. They are crisp instead of soft and don't have raisins. You mix them up and make long rolls, wrap them in foil, and freeze. When you want some you slice off a bunch and bake them. They're nice to have in the freezer in case someone comes by and you want to offer them cookies and tea.0 -
ldesim, I knew you'd like the idea of the TimTam sled!
Hot glue gun, F that, I am using wide tape doubled over!
We have the flavors of Philly here, but I haven't seen the chocolate one. There is an apricot I think and sweet chilli, amongst others, but i don't eat it.
I was one of those people who could eat whatever I wanted, and I never gained a pound. I could knock off a box of chocolates, between lunch and dinner without blinking. I would prowl the pantry after a late night and stuff myself before going to bed. I was a US size 6 @ 5' 7" till my early 50's and then the Cortisone kicked in. Suddenly I had a Buddha Belly where a concave stomach had been...yuck!
It's very weird, but I never even considered recon. I was rendered speechless, unusual for me, when an ex co worker of mine asked me what kind of recon I was doing. I told her I wasn't doing any and she said "Oh, how could you bare to look at yourself!" Can you believe that? She had the same Dx as me, and had implants before her Dx, so perhaps that speaks for her decision, but not her rudeness.
I have absolutely no problem whatsoever, with anyone choosing recon, it is right for them, but I just know it's not for me. Like you ldesim, I can forget about being lopsided now. In fact, I rarely have any awareness of it at all now, which surprises me.
I have everything crossed, hoping that Bobo is one of the ones who breezes through it and gets the visual results she is hoping for, with minimal pain once she is through the first few days. I know it was a very big step for her to do this.
ldesim, the trees last night were all fake, but all different. I don't think I could ever have the patience to do it, but all power to those that can!
Hmm, I don't understand the reason for the temp, I am an meds allergy girl too, but haven't had a temp from any sensitivities, that I can remember. I just wish they'd get the nausea and vomiting under control, that shouldn't be happening, and we all know how awful it is to vomit when you have anything surgical going on.....I feel a Shirley MacLaine moment coming on again! M x0 -
Wren, if you have time, could I have that recipe. I love oatmeal cookies, but don't like the soft ones.
I love the idea of having them frozen, I could do them in the Air Fryer! It does great cakes an cookies. M x0 -
I wonder if her fever 101.4 is maybe a combo of shock to the system, run down and reaction to meds. I hope they can get her straightened out quickly.
When I was a nanny, we made oatmeal lace cookies that sound similar to Wren's. Also sugar cookies, chocolate gingerbread (reindeer), and my favorite pecan balls/ wedding cookies. My friend makes Reese cup tassies. Also a fav. Alas they are both illegal at my house. I usually go to her house and help her bake and eat my fill:)
Candy is big here at Christmas. Bourbon balls, buckeyes, fudge, turtles. Also jam cake and fruit cake. White chocolate popcorn is good too. So pretty with sprinkles. I'm not a sprinkle fan but kids love it. Mine don't like sugar in their oatmeal but love sprinkles. I get the seasonal ones as a treat.
I'm not sure I'm up to a marathon cookie session. GFS, food service place without a membership fee, used to sell precut holiday shaped sugar cookies. I was going to see if they were something we could have.
Baby not bouncing back as quickly as I had hoped with the antibiotic and steroid. Still has a cough and tired. She got her blanket and laid down on my bed at 9 am so I put her down for a nap. She usually doesn't nap until after lunch. Then at 6pm she took me by the finger to her room. She should sleep 12 hours.
I too am not a huge sweet fan. Cheese and crackers or chips and dip. The boy is too. DH loves sweets. We try to eat citrus at night after dinner.
The cheese and dip are hard now with the baby being lactose. I try not to eat stuff in front of her that she can't have. She is old enough to notice but too young to understand. Her cheese is expensive, stinks and doesn't melt so I don't cook with it. I can get the prepackaged slices here in town. I haven't found a sub for cream cheese or sour cream.0 -
Hi Zills, do you have Tofutti brand there? I know it is available in the US because I have bought it when we have been there on long stays. It is called "I can't believe it's not cream cheese!" stupid name, but they do cheese slices too. I sometimes use them here to make Tacos and Mexican melted corn chips and dips.
Sorry to hear the baby isn't well yet. there's nothing like a poor little one who isn't feeling good.
You could well be right, that it is a combination of things that has knocked our girl around. I just want to hear she's feeling better and resting....M x0 -
Still has a fever and hasn't peed.0 -
those oatmeal cookies sound good, maybe just put recipe on here for all of us. Yes I made sugar cookies, I dont usually do a bunch of Christmas baking since my son has type 1 diabetes and hubby type 2. But if grandkids are around do a little, am taking some of these to our Bunco Christmas party tomorrow night. Well I like sweets AND also crackers, cheese and chips! I was like you Ariom, about same height and could eat "like a farmhand" as one of our friends used to say and never gain a pound! Those days are long gone, think when we hit middle age, we just lose our waists! oh well we are alive and well enough to bitch about it is the way I look at it now!
Zills, hope that baby gets better soon, tough when little ones dont feel good, boy when she wanted to go to bed you know at that age she wasnt feeling good! Hugs to that precious gal and also you!
Bobo must be dehydrated from the fever, is she still in hospital? I am assuming that she is and sure hope so. This doesnt sound good! hoping and praying she will recover soon.0 -
Zills - Thanks for keeping us updated and I hope the baby is better !!
Ndgirl - I am with you and hope Bobo is still in the hospital where at least they can keep an eye on her .
Wren the cookies sound great . I used to bake more than I do not . My DH has the sweet tooth that I do not. I was great about 5 years ago when he finally started getting fat LOL, before that it was just me worrying about it. Now with trying to eliminate estrogen and worried about weight gain trying to fix anything is a chore .
Ok all here is my latest Retail Therapy saga......................... RANT. So I decided I would try thrift store shopping as M appears to have such good luck at the Opp shops. I am trying to go foobless and layer with bigger tops, as I still am not healed and still cannot stand to wear my jeans. Plus I am sick of wearing the same 2 North face polar fleece outfits EVERY DAY.
I go into this store and start rooting through everything.............. After a while I notice this woman following me from aisle to aisle. I am look at larger billowy type long sleeve tops when she says......... Excuse me but those are all way to big for you. Actually those clothes you have on now are too big for you as well. Plus with your coloring you would really look better in longer hair (I have just cut my hair as part of my new SIMPLIFY my life process) ................ I took a few deep breath's and TRIED to be nice (as she was elderly) and said I like my clothes comfortable . She said well it really just does not look good. Then I LOST it and said . Look lady its a new lifestyle called CANCER . No tits, no hair and for once in my life no thighs, now go HELP someone else........................ Everyone in the aisle including her took their carts and ran away ................... At least I got 3 tops for 10 bucks..................
It seems like all my interactions lately are with people that "Are 2 fries short of a happy meal ." !!!!!
My patience anymore is no existent, I am blaming the Tamox ...................
Hope you all have a great day /night. Hope Bobo improves quickly !!0 -
Fiaranch1,
Unbelievable!!! I think the woman needed a reality check. Hopefully she will refrain from trying to "help" anyone else. Maybe she had dementia. Who knows but I would have told her off too, especially AFTER you told her you like to be comfortable! Who is she, the fashion police??
Glad you found something. I hate shopping but am finding myself buying bras, scarves and zip tops for my new body. It is a process!
Tamoxifen does gives us a higher ratio of testosterone so you might be right. Regardless, the woman got exactly what she deserved!
Hugs,
Georgie0
