new and future flat sister, with questions

Ariom

Hi ldesim, shows my country ignorance. I didnt know that Foxes were soilitary animals. I just assumed there would be a family....duh. Yes, they are red with a bushy tail, and very fast. this one is like a red streak as it runs past the fence in the early morning.

There was a time when I would tackle all kinds of DIY. I have painted, sanded floors, built fences, and helped the tradesmen on many renos and builds over the years. Not any more, I have reached an age, and the time, to let the experts do it, and I just enjoy it when it's done. I do love to decorate, though! We have a wonderful builder here who acts as a project manager, and he organises everything to be done. No fuss, and so cheap compared to the big city.

I wish you could come garage Sale..ing and walking with the "Dexter Dog". It would be so much fun.

I would urge you to go to your friend's 4th of July party, if you want to catch up with people you haven't seen in a while. If any one of them were in a situation like you are, and couldn't be exposed outside for too long, would it bother you one bit if you stayed inside with them for a while? No one minds about that stuff, you aren't spoiling a thing for anyone. I am willing to bet there is a covered area that you could be seated and you'd enjoy the view and all your friends....Just a thought, I don't mean to be bossy:)

I am so sorry that you're feeling these lousy effects of the Rads, I do hope they pass quickly when you're finished this treatment

I totally understand where you're coming from with the scene at the Childrens Hospital. I can't bare to see children suffering, and always feel emotional when I see the poor little guys on TV who have Cancer, or the little ones at my Rheumatologists office.   

Our Bobo is lying low. I hope all is well with her.

Hugs to everyone! M x

Zillsnot4me

Ariom I'm so glad you are across the world. It's nice to know someone else is up even though you are supposed to be.



The 4 year old had to poop. That's twice this week in the middle of the night. Not sure if its anything, just glad he wakes up.



It took the baby a hour and half last night to settle down and go to sleep. Normally she goes down without a fuss and is quiet for 12 hours. We've been spoiled. She's been awake at least once this night. Maybe she woke her brother!



I thought I had the best money making scheme. Glow in the dark pacifiers or soothers as my husband calls them. I've never seen them in the store but I googled it and there they were. Except they only glow for an hour? How does that help? Sounds more like an led than fluorescent paint. Maybe one that lights up when you push a button? Hers gets caught between the mattress and rails and doesn't fall when you move the crib. She thankfully doesn't suck it all night but that's the problem if she wakes up and can't find it.



She used to be a thumb sucker but had worn her little thumb out just before my dx and refused them as a baby. Her brother chewed on his pacifier. I found a leftover one (not used) and gave it to her to see if she would chew on it. She wasn't chewing on anything else while teething. Now it's her new best friend and I don't have the heart to break her during all this mess.



Granwe. You are exhausted with all your new responsibilities. Give yourself some slack. Being tired makes everything worse. OG is so lucky to have you. I know you feel bad after losing it on him but you all will get through this. It's very easy to go off on the one you love. Take care of yourself. How long must this every two hours go? Could you not get someone in during the day so you could nap? I would be a walking zombie.

Ariom

Hi Zills, I used to talk to Bobo, when she was up and wandering the house, in the middle of her night, and my evening.

Iam glad I am here, when you're feeeling like a chat.

I am so glad you have a 4 year old who can wake enough to get up to poop, thats impressive!

Ahh, I remember pacifiers, and losing them:) My girl was a thumb sucker too but she took to the dummy, as we call them, like a duck to water. I remember when we finally said enough, is enough, and the last one went into the kitchen bin. She plonked herself down beside the bin and sat there for ages, sucking her thumb, and throwing me dark looks. Fortunately, that passed and she didn't hold a grudge:)

I miss my girl, she is in Melbourne, and I am 300km away. We speak every night on the phone. She is coming here for a few days in July. I just love to sit up late with her. We laugh and remember old times with my parents. We were a very close family because we came to Australia from Scotland when I was just 5. So I grew up with just my Mum and Dad, no other relatives until I married and had Bec. She is 35, and I remember her as a baby like it was yesterday.

I hope you can get a little rest before everyone wakes.

I am off to get some dinner to eat in front of the TV, but I will check back to see if you're still up.....M x

Zillsnot4me

I did manage to go back to sleep:)



More specifics in the massage. Please. Use fingertips? I can move the whole drain area with my hand. Does 5 minutes several times a day work? My hands get tired.



Wish me luck today. My father is coming for lunch. It will the first time I've seen him since before the surgery. Both my parents were discouraged from stopping by earlier. They aren't always positive or helpful. They mean well but I didn't want to deal with them. There are strict ground rules. Must be positive, bring lunch and leave soon so I can nap. I will definitely need a nap after my kids late night shenanigans.



Off to eat, fold laundry, walk and do my exercises and massage. Have a good day. Stay cool in the US and warm in AUS.

Ariom

So glad you got some sleep. I hope the others slpt well. It is bedtime for me now!

I tend to use more of the flat of my whole hand, in big circles, working from below the scar and then up and over the chest up to the shoulder. Just do it as firm as is comfortable, and as long as you feel like it. I think it is just the regularity of it that helps. If you can get your husband to do your back, and shoulders, even once a day you'll notice a difference in ow the chest feels.

I do wish you luck today with your Father today. I hope you have a lovely visit. Good on you for laying down the rules. I look forward to hearing how it goes.

Take care of you!  Chat later!

bobogirl

Okay, today I am honestly a shell of the woman I once was. CBE monday, foob store Tuesday, biopsy Thursday.  I think of all the suffering among my sisters on the boards, and even those who are very ill, and children, and none of that makes me feel better exactly (though like you, idesim, it does make me feel like not complaining).  Not sure I will be up to my usual.  I am not even strong enough to be angry.  Looking out the window, waiting for the bitch bus, and crying.  Why am I never wrong about anything?  I knew it would be bad.

Zills, you sure do have good advice.  Focusing on ice cream flavors.  I had my favorite yesterday. I cannot keep solids down!  I feel like I just had surgery with no anaesthetic.  I am honestly thinking back to my SEVEN punch biopsies, and comparing, and there is just no comparison.

Valium or ativan or anything like that won't really get at the pain -- V in my case did nothing.  And they did the paracervical block.  God knows if it made any difference.  Clearly I cannot stop talking about this.  It's because I'm nervous that they will call me back for another one.

Shots for the baby today!  Poor your husband, Zills!  I remember my first round of shots with the baby -- I busted unexpectedly into tears!  Good job sending your dragon in for you

M, I'm so glad you have such a warm relationship with Becca.  I love to think of you staying up talking.  I didn't even tell my mother about the biopsy, or the recent surgery for that matter.  It's better that way since she takes any info and uses it to get attention for herself.  This was proven during the time of the partial mx.

Gramwe -- FFFF Femara!  They don't spell it with an 'F' for nothing.  I agree with Z -- you are overworked.  There's so much stress with the OG's protocol.  And when he was throwing up, I bet you were so worried!  And making meals for eight strong men.  I wonder what you made?

Please be gentle to yourself.  I wonder what we can do to make the F bearable.  Acupuncture?  Reiki?  Ariom, what do you think?  I am super-supportive of all decisions.  And I have never had F.  In fact, I'd never even had a Valium until yesterday.  But I've been thinking lately -- for myself -- that I should do everything I can to stave off recurrence.  If you feel that way, Granwe, how can we make it bearable?

Idesim, worried for you as you finish up rads.  I know you have said it will be a shaky time.  And what have those F'ing assholes said to you regarding a plan for healing your area?  I want a plan in place.

Wren, thank you so much for your kind words!  It meant so much to me to have my women in my place walking into the week I had.

Okay.  I've got the knitted knockers pattern.  PLEASE NOTE:  I believe these will be novelty items only.  I'm not sure if I've explained this to the group yet.  I believe the cutlets and foobs that they sell at the foob store are obviously better than knitted knockers.  However -- who knows?  What do I know about it?  Maybe they will be perfect for hanging around the house in your Marika yoga items.

I must say -- my visit to the foob store was pretty hard on my.  Ignored it the first time around and caused pressure sores and skin tags from having my bras fit improperly.  This time it's hard to ignore.  Position-wise, I am oriented to the sisters in the flat camp -- for myself.  I support any other decision people make.  So it's somewhat demoralizing to have to crawl over to the foob store.  I am definitely a woman without a country.  Just hoping that the next little thing they find will push the doctors into accepting the BMX.

Working from home today.  Everything at a fever pitch at work, of course.  I will be happier if I hear that everyone takes complete care of herself this weekend.  M -- way to go scoring those tiles!  Will write this weekend with description of my biopsy present.  As it turns out, I'm glad I ordered such a good one

bobogirl

I reply to myself.  Zills, I remember you asked about deodorant during rads.  Here's some interesting info from the bco website:

Many women who get radiation therapy as breast cancer treatment develop a skin reaction in the area receiving radiation. The reaction is much like a sunburn: the skins turns pink or red and there also may be itching, burning, soreness, and maybe peeling. Some doctors think using deodorant or antiperspirant increases the risk of skin reactions to radiation therapy.

A small study suggests that using antiperspirant doesn't increase the risk or severity of skin reactions during radiation therapy. These results were presented at the 2010 annual meeting of the American Society for Radiation Oncology (ASTRO).

In this study, 198 women diagnosed with early-stage breast cancer had lumpectomy followed by radiation therapy. Half the women used an antiperspirant that contained aluminum every day while they got radiation therapy. The other women only washed their underarms while getting radiation therapy -- they didn't use any antiperspirant. The researchers recorded the type and severity of any skin reactions in all the women during and two weeks after radiation therapy. There were no differences in skin reactions between the two groups of women.

Because of concerns about antiperspirants making any skin reactions worse during radiation therapy, some doctors tell patients not to use deodorants or antiperspirants while they're getting radiation therapy. This can be upsetting for some women who may be worried about body odor. This study suggests that telling women not to use antiperspirants or deodorants during radiation therapy may not make sense.

If you're scheduled for radiation therapy and your doctor tells you to not use deodorant or antiperspirant during treatment, you may want to bring up this study. The results suggest that if you want use antiperspirant or deodorant during radiation treatment, you can without increasing your risk of skin reactions. Your doctor may still ask you to apply the antiperspirant or deodorant after each treatment rather than before.

You can learn more about radiation side effects in the Radiation Therapy section.

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Zillsnot4me

Glad you're about Bobo. Valium, Xanax or Ativan are not pain meds. They help with your nerves and Lord knows its been a rough week. I can't believe they didn't give you a script for heavy duty ibuprofen like 600 or 800 mgs or else there's narcotics with SEs. I wish we could help you.



I personally had the BMX so I wouldn't have to go thru it again. And my surgeon respected my decision about the left side and there was no problem with insurance.



Yes knitted knickers I mean knockers will be a hoot. I just thought they might be more comfortable (less hot) during the summer. However I haven't been to be fitted so I have no idea about cutlets. I'm not interested in wearing a bra now nor a hat/scarf if I'm at home. I'm rocking the boobless and bald look.



It's still hard to dress myself so I'm wearing at least one size up with ruffles or gathers around the neckline. I could wear some of my shirts but then I can't get out of them by myself and sometimes my husband goes out after the baby is asleep.



I'm not happy with any deodorant right now. I still have stinky pits. I know rads are in my future so I thought maybe I'd switch now. I haven't tried the corn flower that Ariom suggested. I need to wash my fluffy brush. I had heard maybe Tom's of Maine or a crystal rock. It gets too hot and humid not to use something but rads most likely will be in the fall or winter.



Lunch with my Dad was a pleasant surprise. Upbeat, left in a timely manner and took out the trash. I may have him actually come back to kill the white flies.



Going to lay down. May not sleep but need to rest.

ldesim

Just wanted to say a quick hello.. I'm really uncomfortable now, thinking a cool bath might help.  

Sorry to hear you are still in a bad way Bobogirl Had I known they weren't going to give you anything, I would have sent you some of my surgery meds that i never used!!! F to no painkillers! I don't like your Dr. at all!!

I will catch up on the rest of you over the weekend.. feeling too cranky now!!

Ariom

Bobo, my lovely!

I am so sorry you are still feeling the effects of that assault yesterday. I hope it is starting to get better. I got up early just to check on you!

What a shitful week you have had. I am glad it is over, but I understand your dear of ever having to have another of this nasty test. Let's just not go there till we have to. Let's investigate all drug possibilities too. Just to be ready, in case!

I don't think you will need another of these tests Bobogirl! But we will be ready with the ammo, even if you never have to go again. Ok?

Thankfully the foob shop was not quite as bad as you thought it might be, and after you do the fitting, you can stay away from there too!

It makes me sad when I hear of you girls not having a great relationship with your Mothers. I just love my Bec to death. I can't wait till she comes in a few weeks. I love to spoil her, and as I said, staying up late, on the couch, sharing a blanket. Colin says he doesn't know how we can talk nonstop for hours, and the shrieking laughter sometimes wakes him up. Don't get me wrong though, we had our moments during the teen years, oh my gosh, we could lock horns like the best of them, but that's all gone now. I couldn't tell you the last time we had a real disagreement.

She asks about all of you, because I told her I have this wonderful group of women that I am in touch with every day. She enjoys the news, and loves that I make friends in unusual circumstances.

I am with you Bobo on this F'ing Femara. There must be a way to at least, lessen the Se's of this brute. I think of our sweet Gramwe, firing up and lashing out because of this beast of a drug. I hate drugs, I am terribly sensitive to them too. If there is a bad Se, I'll always get it.

I am wondering about the treatment for the sore burned skin ldesim is having to deal with too.

Zills, I am wondering if the vaccinations are over yet, and how it all went.

I'm with you on the meds for Bobo. I had a bad run with Valium, years ago, when I had a neck injury from a Chiropracter. It doesn't do anything for pain but it makes you not give a crap! LOL I was on it for a while, and stopped too fast, only to find myself in withdrawal. That was hell on earth for a while.

I love that you are rocking the bald boobless look. I think I would want to do that too, if in that situation. I have seen a woman who lives out here somewhere who did that in the Summer. She looked so powerful, to me. I couldn't take my eyes off her when I saw her in the street.

I am sitting here smiling at your description of your visit with your Dad. I am so pleased it went better than you were expecting. I am sure he is so glad it went well too, and will be looking forward to doing it again. Get him to take out the white flies next time, and enjoy his company again too.

I hope you get a little snooze in...Take care all...M x

Ariom

ldesim, sorry to hear you're not feeling the best. I hope the bath helps.

Just had a thought. I healed that terrible burn of Colin's with Pebanthen Cream. Do you have it there? It is a wonderful treatment for nappy rash and is the gold standard here for post tattoo healing, and is for burns too.......Just a thought

Chat later...M x

bobogirl

Idesim, that cream of M's sounds like a good idea.  I am all for getting a plan in place for your area.  Just in case those F'ing ass*oles don't have an appropriate plan in place.  How was the cool bath?

I too want the vaccination update.  So glad about your dad!  Good man.  He needs to keep it up.

Yes.  I will not be able to settle down until I have a meds plan in place for the  next one of these.  There will almost certainly be a next one.  Any drop of bleeding I have will warrant another one.  I see I am going to have to take matters into my own hands.  So if you will put your heads together and help me figure this out, maybe I will be able to calm down.  My trust in the PCP and the GYN is badly damaged.  And I feel unsteady walking around outside.

So, what do you think?  All I have is ativan, and I have one of the .5 Valiums left -- that did nothing.  I need to get a plan together about this.  In fact -- even though I have results to think about, plus another foob fitting, plus work issues, plus a full weekend with the kids -- I can't think of anything else.  I begged and begged not to be taken by surprise by this biopsy, and communicated and communicated, and still ended up in the same place.  Now I'm very scared.

Zillsnot4me

Poor Idesim. I have no advice but diaper cream may not be a bad idea. I know at daycare we made a paste out of cornstarch, desitin and liquid maalox. It takes the sting out. Equal parts to whatever consistency. And some had what looked like welts. I don't know if you have to get stuff vetted before using. I hope you get some relief soon. Also think you should go to the party. It would be fun and you never know who needs a reason to stay inside. But that's just my two cents and you still have plenty of time to decide.



According to my husband the shots were no big deal. I don't know if it's because he's a man or because of the situation but he didn't have to wait. Was home 45 min after the appt. I'm always there for an hour or more waiting. Of course the 4 year old told us she did cry. She was fine at home and went down without a fuss. Hopefully for the night.



I need to go lay down. Been a long day and chest is tight again. Hope everyone sleeps well.

Zillsnot4me

Ask if you are a candidate for Endometrial ablation. Are they concerned about cancer? Childbearing? Can you get a second opinion? The Ativan should help you sleep tonight but I don't know about pain meds.



The Jin Shin trick to reduce worry is to hold your thumb with your other four fingers for five minutes. Just light pressure and whichever thumb feels right. For Fear hold your index finger the same way. I know it sounds strange. And it works even during chemo. Also breathe deeply. Try turning on some music and dance with your kids. Play candy crush or some silly game on your computer. Anything to keep your mind busy. I'm sorry I don't have a magic wand or a prescription pad. I know what anxiety is and you can put it back in the box but it takes some work. You are strong. You can do this. We are all behind you.

bobogirl

Zills, doing my jin shin now!  You are a welcome friend.  XXX

Zillsnot4me

Hold on as long as you need but at least five minutes. Can rotate fingers and sides. Go bobo go!

ndgirl

Just catching up on everyone today, how I wish i had some quick fixes for bobo and idesim, well for that matter for each and every one of us.. but nope I dont. Really sad today, just heard a friend of ours died of the dreaded C.. graduated with my hubby.. just a beautiful gal inside and out, will this ever end in our lifetime.

my mil took valium and it sent her over the top, she cried constanly, couldnt think straight.. i hate meds but what are we to do?

well tomorrow i have agreed to go to a neighboring town that is celebrating 125  years, and hubby has a classic 1957 car that he likes to show off in parades so i agreed to go along even tho i really dont want to very bad.. but he has been so good to and for me thru all this i will go and have a good time! 

Zill.. glad the visit with dad was good. I too was close to my parents, but like you Ariom, i did the traditional mother/daughter dance with my mom, we butted heads lots  of times but in the end we always were close. Wish she was still with me. I had no sisters, no daughters, and boy i envy you with daughters and talking all nite and sharing blankets.. my grandaughters are too young but love them to the moon. my sons are great too, one really wears his heart on his sleeve and the others is quite reserved.. go figure.

wishing all my new friends a good weekend.. dont overdue it if possible. but sometimes i need to take my own advice.  take care

wren44

Aloe vera is good for burns and can be purchased in gel form in drug & health food stores. A lady on here said she kept it in the frig, put it in a insulated container, took it to rads and put it on immediately after. In Texas we kept it in plant form.

Zillsnot4me

Also give your worries to God. I imagine wadding them up in a ball and handing them to him. I know we all have different beliefs and some may even be mad at him because of cancer or other things. I believe. I have two beautiful children that are miracles and I pray for a third one.



I hope you are sleeping. Apparently I "napped" for two hours and its now almost midnight. Woke from a weird dream with a horrible taste in my mouth. That's what I get for not brushing my teeth after eating a ginger snap!



It's a beautiful night. The moon is bright and I can hear the crickets chirping. At least it's not coyotes partying or sad cows hollering for their babies. It's weaning time and they can make quite a ruckus.

Zillsnot4me

Ariom how do you know about tattoo parlors? I'm sure it's a good story.



Long ago I tried to belly dance. I'm not coordinated and have no rhythm but it was fun. There was a group in California called Fat Chance Girls. They all had grape vines tattooed on their bellies. I enjoyed watching them perform but I like the more fancy style of dress similar to "I dream of Jeanie".



And no I never got a tattoo.



Late night musings. Have a good weekend!

Ariom

Helloooo from Downunder!

I don't know! I take Dex out for a walk and when I come back you've all been here, posted and gone!

So much to read, but I want to get caught up.

Firstly Bobo, don't you be scared. We WILL find the right meds for you. I have a heap here from Colin and My surgeries, but I think we may get busted if I start trying to mail it all to you. I can see the headlines "Elderly Australian caught smuggling narcotic drugs to USA in Silicone Prosthesis" News at 9!

We will research, and find what will wook for you. We won't let you go through that again. I have to say though, you need to have a stern word with you Gyn for not being truthfull about that biopsy. I am wonderring if she just may come up with another meds option after seeing what you went through. F her, ugly face, flip the bird with both hands, at the computer screen!

Ndgirl, I am just like your MIL. Colin called it "Brown Curtains" he had the worst brown curtains at his house, and when I was off the Valium, just one look at those curtains and I would be wailing, since I never cry about anything, this was a big deal. I also felt like I could walk outside and be hit by a bus, and I wouldn't care! It was the worst feeling, and it took a long time to get over.

I love the sound of the classic car and going to the town's Birthday! It sounds like fun. What is the classic car?

Wren, I love Aloe too. I have huge plants in the garden here. I just break off a piece and use the gel on cuts and abrasions. I used it on Colin's badly burned hand too. I keep some of the commercial one in the fridge. It is good for mossie bites and sunburn.

Lills, I do visualisation scenes too, of passing over the things you don't want. I learned it at meditation classes.

So pleased to hear you had a little snoozie! that will do you good, and your brave Dragon saved the day, and the baby didn't get too upset from the vaccinations. He's a keeper!

Oh Zills, it wasn't too long ago that I told my Tattoo story for the girls, but I'll tell you the short version:) I had held off getting a Tattoo because my Dad who was an officer in the Navy was so anti Tattoo. He passed away just 6 months before my 40th Birthday. I decided to get a Tattoo for my 40th. I told no one, not even Bec. I had decided on a vine of jasmine, with a few thorns, and I was having it on my hip. I went to the Tattoo parlor. It was a glorious sunny Winter day. I had to straddle a barbers chair, and as soon as the Tattoo started it got dark outside. The wind began to howl and the rain came down in sheets. It sounded like the roof would come off. I said to the artist, "That's my Dad, he'd never approve!" When the Tatttoo was finished, the sun came out and it was as if nothing had happened.

I have always had a fascination for Tattoos, and would love to have a really beautiful bit of ink art on my flat side, but I am too afraid of LE to do it.

My adopted boy, Vi, who I have spoken of with the girls. He was a Vietnamese refugee, that came to us as a young teen. He hd a Tiger Tattoo that he had aquired while in Hong Kong at the refugee camp. When he was old enough he convinced me to buy him a Tattoo for his 18th Birthday, so I did, and he continued to get a back piece done and several others over the years. I know it sounds awful, but they looked amazing on  him. He was a stunning looking, unusual coloring, asian. There was one time that I was not at all pleased. He actually had a portrait of me tattooed on his chest, as my 40th birthday pesent. When Bec saw it, she told him I would be really mad at him, but what could he do?  So on the morning of my 40th Birthday he came into my room with a big card in an envelope, and a piece of wrapping paper stuck to his chest. I had to peel it off to reveal the present. Bec was hovering, waiting to see what I would do. I was annoyed, but I didn't give him a hard time. It was just a head shot of me with "Mother" printed under it. It really was the ultimate gift, but it sure was hard to talk to him when he had his shirt off, with a picture of me staring back at me! LOL 

The saddest part of the story Zills is that we lost him nearly 3 years ago. He passed away in SFO in 2010. I miss him so much, he was a wonderful son.

I have always wanted to do a belly dance class, I've got the belly for it, but I don't know about the coordination!

I took Dex out for a big walk, down to Sunset Cove, and up the "Ramps of Death" as I call it. I don't know what they were thinking when they built this series of ramps up the side of the cliff that is the road back to my house. It starts off pretty sedate, but as you go up these zigzagged ramps get steeper and steeper tilll you get to the last one which is almost straight up to the road. I can't imagine that they intended it to be for wheelchairs, or even baby carriages. I think it is only silly women, like me, and dogs  that ever use it. Anyway, it gets the thighs and the buns burning. It is a 60 minute round trip from my house.

I am now doing 7 reps of the 5 Tibetan Rites every morning, so I am one third of the way to my 21, and I just love it. I never feel like missing a morning, and the one time I couldn't do it, because of an Arthritis flare, frozen shoulder, I was p'd off that I couldn't do it.  I was back into the next day, which was pretty unusual, those shoulder things can sometimes last a while.

Well, my girlfriends, I hope you are all tucked up in bed, and dreaming sweet dreams!

It is mid afternoon here and the sun is still shining. I might go and have a potter in the garden, maybe count my lettuce plants, since someone recently accused me of having 500 different kinds of lettuce! LOL

Take care my lovelies.....I'll check back later to see if anyone's been up........Sleep tight! M x 

bobogirl

Hellooo!

I don't know if I'd read the one about Vi's tattoo!  He loves you so.  I imagine that would be quite disconcerting.  Agree about the med smuggling.  We don't want you on the 9 o'clock news.

Can't believe those Valium stories -- although I know they must be true -- my.5 did absolutely nothing.  But perhaps it was because of the adrenaline.  Sisters on our website are advising me to change doctors.  But what if I change to the same sort of doctor?  How to find a doctor who believes you are in pain, or prepares you beforehand, and gives something to block it?  If I could figure out how to do that, and how to teach others to do it, I think I'd have a million dollars.  Ariom, I am appreciating the offer of research, since I have no idea what to do.  I need to go in with a plan, and I need to supply part of the meds myself.  Statistically speaking, it is unlikely that I will never have spotting again.  And everytime I have it, I get one of these.  I think I sound like a blathering idiot, mentioning it again and again.

ndgirl, I am so sorry for your loss of your beautiful friend.  You will be great at the parade, but I agree with you... it doesn't sound fun to me!  Not fun at all!    It's nice of you to do something that he likes.  And then, tonight, I think you should get to pick the movie..

Z, I don't know about giving these things to God.  It's not that I don't believe.  It's just that none of this really makes sense.  I'm grateful for what I have so far, regarding health status, and grateful things are not worse.  But I can't really understand the asking and the choosing, on the part of God, for things to be so bad for others.

Idesim, how is your area?  Thinking of you today.  And Gramwe, how is the OG? 

Today DLLP and I are going on a "date."  It's our first one since before the Princess' first seizure, which was August 11th of last year.  A four-hour date.  And I'm going yarn shopping for the knockers.  Hoping they turn out okay!  At any rate, they will be made with love.  XXX

Zillsnot4me

I don't know if this a pain option but cramps are cramps except yours, Bobo, are the worst. My ob prescribed me 600 mg of ibruprofen several times a day BEFORE my period. I had no cramps and a very lite flow.



Way to go Ariom! 60 minutes of cardio and upping the rites. Dex is a real trooper. I miss my dog.



What a sweet tattoo story of your boy. Where is SFO? I know you still miss him very much.



Baby slept all night. I wish I could say the same. Already looking forward to her napping so I can lay down again and she isn't up or at least she is quiet.



Going to be a hot one today. Stay cool and enjoy the weekend. Try to do more than just chores. Find something fun! I remember car shows well (old boyfriend). It was work getting them clean enough but fun. Something different. Stay hydrated and don't forget the sunscreen!

bobogirl

Try to do more than just chores?!  I believe Z is the psychic member of our girl gang.  Each of us should have a special superpower.

Good advice about the ibuprofen.  Ariom, will this be the weekend I start the rites?  I used to be the biggest exercise freak ever.  Now -- not.  But also the four jobs have something to do with it.

Seven a.m. and DLLP and the kids are having a 'folding and putting away' race in order to get them to clean up their room.. the minute I sneak away and start rites, there will be a seven year old in front of me asking, What are you doing?  Or in the case of my daughter, she will just plant herself on me..

Zillsnot4me

I agree. I don't know about the good vs bad. The whys of it all. I try not to dwell on that but just trust he will give you the strength to get thru it.



A 4 hour date. Way to go! Sounds pretty special. And yarn shopping. You're going to have great weekend.



I asked around before going to a new doctor. I've even asked my doctor for a recommendation. You don't have to tell her it's you. Say its for a friend. Her answer may be the one to avoid! Can you bribe her? Take her and staff some chocolate?



Ten more minutes until I can eat! Meds say wait an hour before eating. I find this blog to be addictive and the game candy crush! Both are very distracting.

bobogirl

Oooh!  Good sneaky advice.  What are you going to have for breakfast?  

Right now, DS is making our grocery list.  You can imagine what he's writing down...

Ariom

You're up early Miss Bobo!

I have been worried about you, but you are sounding better now.

The Valium is fine if you use it occasionally, but I was on 4 times a day dosaage for a couple of months, that't where the problem came from. No one told me to wean myself off it, so I just stopped because  was going back to work, and had to drive and function. Apparently, you can become addicted to this little devil in just a few weeks.

You aren't a blathering idiot Bobo, I would be feeling just the same if it were me. I will do some hunting for a meds solution. No worries!

I have to ask though, will you be seeing this Gyn for results? That would be the perfect time to broach this subject with her and tell her that you never want to have a repeat performance of that kind of pain. What can she do, now that she is familiar with how your body reacts to that test. Put the ball firmly in her court, and let her know you're expecting her to make certain that won't happen again. She works for you Hon! It's part of her charter to make sure you aren't distressed or in pain.

In the meantime I'll be researching too. We'll get it right, if you ever need to have another. 

Oh Bobo, a date, that sounds just lovely, what are you doing? August last year, that's a long time between drinks, Miss Bobo. I hope you both have a lovely time. Try to put all of  this out of your mind and just enjoy it. You deserve it!

Just out of interest, what does your DLLP think of this little band of girlfriends? 

It's bedtime for me now. I have nothing planned for tomorrow, hopefully it will be a pleasant day and Dex and I can go walking again. He loves it so much, I don't mind it either!

He is lying stretched out, on my outstretched legs, snoring loudly! Chat later......Moira x 

Ariom

There you go again!

I know you're all waiting for me to go to bed and you all come out to play:)

Firstly Zills..great advice for the Bobo girl, both the meds, and the bribery. Can't help but think the Doc may be a bit reticent about eating anything Miss Bobo may give her after that prodedure!LOL

Sorry Zills, I worked at the airport a long time, SFO is San Francisco. Vi had been living there for some time and had a landscaping business. I was packing, ready to go to visit him in a weeks time, when I heard he had died in a car fire.

Stay cool and comfortable today, don't overdo the chores!

Take care.....M x

Ariom

Now Miss Bobo,

I wouldn't be starting the Rites till I was feeling recovered from the shock of that procedure. It's the shock that causes that unsteadiness. Did you feel a bit depersonalised too? That's how I felt when they drained my sinuses while I was awake!

You've got so much going on, I don't know how you keep it all together. Take it a little easy this weekend, and enjoy your date. Pleanty of time for exercise.

So funny though, Dex comes when I do the Rites and has to give me a Dog scan. That entails coming very close, and sniffing my eyelashes, one eye at a time, very slowly and gently. I don't know what it's about. but he has to do it every day, and then he sits beside me while I finish the Rites. He's a dog of many rituals. I call him the OCD Dog, and I don't think I am far wrong.

Anyway, I am really going this time...take care and have a lovely day...I'll see you all tomorrow.......M x

Zillsnot4me

Baby very sore this am. Just now starting to walk and she's been up for an hour. I always took them to the park after shots to get it loosened up. It was too hot yesterday and my husband needed to go back to work. She was busy walking all last night but slept a solid 12 hours! Gave her Tylenol and put a wet tea bag on the injection sites.



The boy has his moments this morning. Was aggravating his sister. Going to play farm boy this afternoon with his daddy.



I had a bagel with Greek yogurt/cream cheese spread, some kefir and a cup of tea. Days don't go right unless I have my tea but its lukewarm. Can't stand hot stuff. Surprised my local store carried the spread. Very progressive of them. Even has kefir and lactose free cheese that the baby loves.



So sad Ariom that you were so close to seeing him. I'm sure you were devastated. I don't know how parents move on after a loss of a child. I have friend that is Vietnamese and American. He is very attractive. I thought SFO was San Francisco but couldn't figure out the o. Makes sense now since you were in the airline industry.