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  • mysticalcity
    mysticalcity Member Posts: 184

    Much love to you also santabarbarian and everyone else on this thread--

    Here is more information on breast cancer, seaweed and iodine. . it was interesting Snooky you had posted on seaweed--I just had been reading quite a bit on that and had recently gone out and bought seaweed snacks to boost my iodine and get some seaweed into my diet. The snacks seemed an easy and pretty palatable way to eat seaweed--though my husband and son can't believe I am eating them--they say they smell terrible. However, (Frisky you may laugh) my cat seems quite interested in them--must be the fishy smell. LOL. I am checking with the manufacturer of the snacks on the type of seaweed they use for them as the various types seem to matter and will let you know what I find out. Here are just some of seaweed links I had found. There are many as I found even more than this:

    https://breastcancerconqueror.com/studies-confirm-seaweed-outperforms-tamoxifen/

    Comparison of tamoxifen with edible seaweed (Eucheuma cottonii L.) extract in suppressing breast tumor--https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23441613/

    https://nutritionfacts.org/2014/05/15/which-seaweed-to-help-prevent-breast-cancer/

    http://www.seaweed.ie/medicine/seaweedcancer.php

    Would definitely seem (barring any iodine overload) something that might benefit many of us with little downside.

    Wishing you all a joyous Christmas season and most importantly a healthy 2020 to all!

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  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

    mmmmmm the wasabi ones I bet I would love! Thanks for the idea!

  • simone60
    simone60 Member Posts: 952

    Thanks for the links Misticalcity. I didn't really think about adding seaweed to my diet before. I think I'll try those chips. I don't eat chips or junk food anymore and miss stuff that is crunchy. That sounds like a good healthy alternative.

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    iodine is a very important part of the breast cancer equation....

    Breast Cancer

    As iodine consumption has gone down, breast cancer rates have gone up. But the research goes far deeper, exploring the effects of iodine supplementation on breast disease and breast cancer. This important breakthrough has been in the research pipeline for years but only recently found momentum. After sifting through 50 years of iodine research and corresponding with researchers around the world, the editors report that abnormal iodine metabolism, due either to bromide dominance in the environment or a dietary deficiency of iodine, must be addressed as part of a preventive and or a therapeutic strategy.


    Iodine Deficiency Growing Worse

    • Iodine consumption by Americans has dropped 50% since the 1970s as breast cancer rates have risen (1). In the US Goiter Belt, where iodine in the soil is lower, breast cancer is higher (2).
    • By contrast, the incidence and severity of breast cancer are less in Japan than in Europe and the US, attributable to the diet (3). Japanese women consume 25 times more dietary iodine than North American women and have lower breast cancer rates (4).
    • Meanwhile, since the 1970s, in the US and several other countries, iodine-blocking bromides have been added to flour, some sodas, and medications, exacerbating the iodine deficiency.
    • Fluoridated drinking water also depletes iodine absorption. Thus, as women consume less iodine and excrete more due to toxic elements, our risk for breast cancer grows(5).

    Iodine and Benign Breast Disease

    • Blocking iodine in rats' food supply led to progressive human-like fibrocystic disease (atypia, sclerosing, calcifications, dysplastic changes) as the rats aged (6). Supplementing patients with fibrocystic disease with iodine helped to resolve fibrosis and reduced breast size (7).
    • For women with painful breasts accompanying fibrocystic disease, iodine improved symptoms in more than 50% of the women who took 6.0 mg. of iodine for 6 months (8), and brown sea alga improved pain and nodularity in 94% of the women (9). From the editors' observations of the Iodine Investigation Project participants, depending on the kind of iodine agent used, painful breast symptoms have resolved in from 24 hours to two months.
    • Since benign breast disease increases the risk of breast cancer (10), and iodine improves fibrocystic disease, we at Breast Cancer Choices propose studies to see if iodine supplementation decreases the risk of getting breast cancer and the risk of recurrence.

      http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iodine.html

    • husband11
      husband11 Member Posts: 1,287

      We love those seaweed snacks. The local Asian grocery has them in variety packs with grape seed oil, olive oil and other flavors. Delicious.

    • mysticalcity
      mysticalcity Member Posts: 184

      Here are 2 more links with a couple of lines from each. Earlier today I couldn't find these in my hundreds of saved links. . .both are basically referencing the same article, but these were what I had read that started me on the seaweed snacks. . .

      1) Iodine treats breast cancer and more, overwhelming evidence

      Dr. Guy Abraham recommends higher Iodine intake of 12.5 mg per day, corresponding to the Japanese daily Iodine intake. Higher dietary Iodine explains why the Japanese have the lowest rates for cancer of the breast, prostate and thyroid.

      https://www.sott.net/article/305942-Iodine-treats-breast-cancer-and-more-overwhelming-evidence?fbclid=IwAR3m-XB-IzaL9fktSAtEMPqx088LEehMcNZkInzo4dovIow2jHY9-hXubdI

      2) Iodine Treats Breast Cancer, Overwhelming Evidence

      Spontaneous Regression of Breast Cancer

      David Brownstein MD reports three cases of spontaneous regression of breast cancer after women take iodine supplementation.

      From Japan, Dr Funahashi reported a common seaweed food containing high iodine content is more beneficial than chemotherapy on breast cancer . He found that "administration of Lugol's iodine or iodine-rich Wakame seaweed to rats treated with the carcinogen dimethyl benzanthracene suppressed the development of mammary tumors. The same group demonstrated that seaweed induced apoptosis in human breast cancer cells with greater potency than that of fluorouracil, a chemotherapeutic agent used to treat breast cancer."(8)

      https://jeffreydachmd.com/iodine-treats-breast-cancer/

    • JFL
      JFL Member Posts: 1,373

      Interesting posts about iodine and seaweed. Mysticalcity, those snacks you are eating are made of nori. I eat nori, wakame and dulse. Dulse has been my favorite since I was a small child. Very high in iodine. It is red, chewy and salty. I eat it out of the bag but it can also be sprinkled on salads and other foods.

      While we are discussing Japanese health foods, I would also recommend umeboshi plums. I take them for bloating and belly pain, digestion and just for taste. However, they are a super food and supposed to halt cancer growth, help stabilize blood sugar levels, detox the liver and many other things. Growing up, my mom would give me umeboshi plums, umeboshi paste, umeboshi vinegar or other umeboshi products for just about everything. They are very alkalizing and contain probiotics due to the fermentation.

    • Frisky
      Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

      happy new year everybody!....may we all experience lasting results from our various therapies....amen!

    • simone60
      simone60 Member Posts: 952

      Amen Frisky!

    • husband11
      husband11 Member Posts: 1,287

      Amen!

    • bsandra
      bsandra Member Posts: 1,037

      Thank you, Frisky, Amen!

    • mysticalcity
      mysticalcity Member Posts: 184

      Amen! And Happy New Year to all!🍾🎉

    • Frisky
      Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

      Long story worth reading....

      The Hidden Complications of 'Evidence-Based Medicine'
      https://thewire.in/the-sciences/evidence-based-medicine-peter-gotzsche

      "'You do not ask a barber if you need a haircut.' Most people have heard this expression or something similar. Yet we willingly allow our doctors to subject us to various diagnostic investigations and treatments which may be financially beneficial for themselves. Health care is riddled with financial conflicts of interest, and even when your doctor does not directly benefit, there are many other reasons you should be on the alert."


    • simone60
      simone60 Member Posts: 952

      Happy New Year!

    • mysticalcity
      mysticalcity Member Posts: 184

      Happy New Year! Interesting article on cancer metabolism:

      Cancer Metabolism

      https://www.nature.com/collections/hiciagdefb?fbclid=IwAR3l79QpbvyCZoxZV2LifC6gE1-0rKSIDIKlKFymn-mBzkxWZ0Bu83QLNPk

      Metabolism and cancer: the future is now

      https://www.nature.com/articles/s41416-019-0667-3

    • santabarbarian
      santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

      thanks for these articles! interestng!

    • Frisky
      Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

      Has anyone tried this methionine highly restrictive type diet?


      A recent study of breast cancer cells found that methionine deprivation reduced growth of tumor-initiating cells (TICs) (ie, the stem cell niche).16 The authors propose that since methionine is required for protein synthesis, its deprivation serves as a block to necessary anabolic processes. The authors conclude, "Our results may also explain the anti-cancer health benefits of caloric restriction, intermittent fasting and the vegetarian diet, by systemically reducing protein synthesis in TICs."

      There is direct evidence that methionine restriction leads to selective death of cancer cells versus normal cells.
      The effect of methionine restriction on whole organisms is such that proliferation and anabolic processes are lessened. In organisms from yeast to mammals, caloric restriction results in inhibition of insulin-like growth factor (IGF) signaling, activation of adenosine monophosphate activated kinase (AMPK), inhibition of mammalian target of rapamycin (mTOR), and reduction in mitochondrial oxidation.17,18,19 Disruption of such anabolic pathways also occurs with diets containing adequate calories that restrict methionine.20,21 IGF, AMPK, and mTOR are well-characterized pathways of cancer growth, making their disruption a desirable goal.22
      In vitro, there is direct evidence that methionine restriction leads to selective death of cancer cells versus normal cells.23,24 Various cancer cell types cannot survive in media devoid of methionine even when homocysteine is present.25 Specifically, many cancer cells undergo cell cycle arrest and eventually apoptosis mediated by pro-apoptotic molecules such as Bcl-2.26 In addition, nutrient-sensing mechanisms within cells have been proposed as a means of organism control of weakened or defective cells. When certain nutrients, including methionine, are scarce, autophagy may ensue. 27

      Watch Dr. Michael Greger explain how methionine is critical to cancer cell growth. Methionine restriction is both a safe and practical dietary intervention if applied with proper supervision. NORI recommends that one enroll in our support program to implement methionine restriction safely and effectively.

      https://youtu.be/yLOYa-Nd_XQ

      Dr. Joel Kahn shares the highlights of a mouse and human study on the effects of a low methionine diet.

      List of foods high in methionine...basically all fish, meats and cheeses.

      https://tools.myfooddata.com/nutrient-ranking-tool.php?nutrient=Methionine&foodgroup=All&sortby=Highest&servsize=Common&list=Simple&spices=No

      List of fruits and vegetables low in methionine

      https://tools.myfooddata.com/nutrient-ranking-tool.php?nutrient=Methionine&foodgroup=Fruits&sortby=Lowest&servsize=Common&list=Simple&spices=No

      https://tools.myfooddata.com/nutrient-ranking-tool.php?nutrient=Methionine&foodgroup=Vegetables&sortby=Lowest&servsize=Common&list=Simple&spices=No

    • santabarbarian
      santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

      Interesting. I am leaning more and more vegan and it's getting easier and easier.

      Do they say anywhere how many mg of methionine constitutes "low"?

    • Frisky
      Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

      most fruits and veggies are low enough...proteins are the problem....

    • Frisky
      Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

      most fruits and veggies are low enough in methionine ...proteins are the problem....

      Methionine occurs in all proteins in nature, to some extent. Overall, methionine is generally highest in fish, beef, dairy, eggs, nuts, seeds, and grains, respectively, when looked at on a mg per serving basis.58 Vegetables and fruits have the lowest content of methionine due to lower protein amounts. As a percentage of protein content, nuts tend to have the highest percent concentration (mg methionine/gram protein); however, since animal sources have more protein per serving, the content of methionine is higher for practical purposes. Thus, a vegan diet is fairly low in methionine. It does not, however, reach methionine restriction levels used in the studies mentioned above (2 mg methionine/kg body weight/day).

      Before being diagnosed with MBC i had been on a Keto diet for a while, as prescribed by my functional doctor to deal with pre-diabetes...this whole methionine situation is starting to shed some light.

      Mo NIcholas Gonzales was very clear about stirring away from all animal proteins...what I didn't understand then or now is how to deal with the high insulin levels needed to process all those carbs....insulin is a carcinogen as well....MO Gonzales was unable to explain or provide a solution either....it's a conondrum

    • santabarbarian
      santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

      It's possible to be nearly or totally vegan and keto.

      1. eat only nutritive, low glycemic carbs-- and these in small amounts. Lentils, quinoa, sweet potato, berries are examples.

      2. very scant amounts of animal food if any-- favoring deep sea fish, scant Omega 3 eggs, maybe a little chicken or a sprinkle of feta in the salad.

      You can exercise on an empty stomach in the am, fast intermittently, &/or do fasting mimicking/ water fasting too, all practices which will keep you at the edge of ketosis.

      Keto combined with vegan or low animal protein looks like this: a shitload of salads, sauteed or stewed or roasted (mostly non-root) veggies, soups, healthy nuts & seeds. Berries. As your system adapts, more fruits and nutritive carbs can be added.

      After 18 month of this eating (with treats here and there) I have effortlessly lost 30 lbs and feel wonderful. I don't feel deprived. I eat when I am hungry (you do get hungrier with mostly vegan, but you can eat to satiation too).

    • Frisky
      Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

      Thanks Santa...that’s what I figured myself...a variety of low-carbs fruits and vegetables...losing weight will do me good....

    • santabarbarian
      santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

      You like to cook so you will have fun with it. Just think of every dinner as three gourmet vegetable side dishes! (Plus a salad!)

      My hack is to get a box of "fun" salad bar items once a week and then throw them into homemade salads all week. I also roast a huge pan of veggies and eat from them all week. A thick pureed soup or two can sit in the fridge and be ready for a hunger pang. It is very satisfying food... to me the key is have it "ready" in fridge.

    • Frisky
      Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

      Santa, I used to eat in a similar fashion, but it's been a while that I can't eat reheated foods...I don't know why...sandwiches have been my go to solution, but they usually involved proteins...I will have to switch to salads and roasting vegetables right before I eat them...or making small amounts of soups..till my body adjusts...

      Have to use fresh and aged cheeses now as an accent instead of as an ingredient.

    • santabarbarian
      santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

      yes I still do little accents too ... a small amount of chicken in a large salad... etc. Fresh non cured cheeses are pretty healthy (feta, goat) not as often but you can still have them here and there.

      Actually I don't mind eating roasted brussell sprouts, beets, or eggplant cold...

    • mysticalcity
      mysticalcity Member Posts: 184

      Interesting article posted on my Repurposed Drugs FB group this morning:

      Shutting Down the Power House of Cancer

      https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/shutting-down-the-power-house-of-cancer/?fbclid=IwAR1YaKc9l3X62pFC3HSpf6Zc50xcQ3cMc42yARqJs7PGLZ227IWYwRZ_4tk

      Thanks for all the diet info Frisky and Santabarbarian! I have been feeling the conundrum Frisky mentioned--as there is so much conflicting diet info. . . had just read lots on keto as the way to go and was a little starting on that approach a bit-then saw the information on methionine from Frisky. But I think the info you both provided gives a path that navigates both a bit. THANK YOU!

      I will be having all my 6 month post cryoablation checks--biopsy, imaging all that fun stuff tomorrow. So I would ask for any prayers anyone here wants to offer up for me. Feeling anxious of course.

    • Frisky
      Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

      Mysticalcity I’m reporting for pocket duty tomorrow as you undergo the cryoablation checkup. I will bring low methionine sandwiches to share.

      May you find the intervention a complete success and may you benefit for decades to come.

      Amen!

    • BevJen
      BevJen Member Posts: 2,341

      Mysticalcity,

      Wait -- what? You had cryoablation? I must have missed that. Where? I'm assuming your liver... How many spots did they work on? I am asking bc I had microwave ablation in July of my largest lesion on my liver (2cm) and still have a few very small spots in there that my IR wants to just watch until about March or so and then we'll decide what to do. I did discuss cryoablation versus microwave ablation with my IR, and so we're considering both if he has to go back in (translation: if the Ibrance/faslodex doesn't cause the remaining tumors to fade back into the sunset.)

      Please feel free to PM me with details if you are so inclined. Thanks.