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Mysticacity,
Praying for good news for you tomorrow.
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In your pocket with the wasabi seaweed snacks.... delicious!
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I'm here, offering up prayer for Mystical and all of my warriors here.
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Goldie what the heck is going on with you? What treatments are you on now and how are you feeling? Big hug from this cat!
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Hello there my "big cat" friend Frisky. I'm ok. I will PM you so as not to go off topic here. I am here every day to read, just don't comment much. Thank you for asking and big huggles to you as well.
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Mystical....I had cryo as well...on 2 of my 3 tumors..I will PM you.
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So...my MO has kindly agreed to change my chemo schedule from twice on and one week off to one on one off...I'll try to stay the course if the new schedule gives me more time to rebound. The fatigue has been unmanageable...and I was debating if I should stop chemo all together. It’s been brutal!
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I hope the 1/1 schedule is easier on you and makes a big difference!
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I hope so too Santa...
To all the FZ aficionados out there, I want to bring your attention to this little detail...and get your opinion on its merit...
Let's all analyze Joe Tippens story and his miraculous cancer cure with FZ...
as he tells it, he had been fasting for months, due to medical reasons, and had lost I think 40 or 50 pounds in the process...he basically discounts this important detail, which has been affecting how people have been applying his protocol, including all of us on the FZ bandwagon....with terrible outcomes....
Could it be that it was the starving of all cells—including cancer cells that consume more energy than the rest since they are all growing out of control—that produced such a remarkable and dramatic result? Didn’t he, in a way, block all pathways?
Could that explain why FZ works so inconsistently? Could it be that FZ is effective when people happen ( or whatever reason) to be restricting food intake or specifically proteins?
What about exploring the methionine restriction? ( ie proteins) could that be the key to starving and weakening cancer cells, which would make them, then, more vulnerable to attacks by FZ and what we already know to be anti-cancer natural compounds or traditional treatments?
It's worth exploring....it sure makes a lot of sense to me and would logically explain the inconsistent results people are getting...Could it be the missing piece of the puzzle?
Obviously, the hard part is the starving. His protocol has been so popular because it made no demands, no sacrifices, it was cheap and painless.
But maybe between restricting the timing with intermittent fasting and restricting all proteins, a patient could experience if not a cure, at least, a weakening and a slowing down of the cancer growth and metastasis...I say It's worth trying...we'll see what happens...
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Wants to reduce cancer risks or reduce your cancer load?
A bad Year to be a butcher. How low methionine foods might be your best choice.
Here's some of the results based on low methionine diet published in Nature. enjoy!
how not to die from cancer
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Frisky I think you are right. And that an "&/all" approach is right. Look at Dr Valter Longo, USC for fasting. Fasting triggers apoptosis. Then breaking the fast with nutritive foods triggers a boost in immune system. Very likely humans evolved to have feast/famine rather than feast, feast, feast. Very likely meant to be cold and dark all night.
I think it's right to do EVERYTHING you can, to weaken and stress the cancer. Obviously not every intervention is appropriate to every person, but the most you can reasonably do. A lot of 1%-10% boosts, that can add up-- enough to overcome the CSCs. Diet & supplements, fasting, circadian rhythms, exercise, and many other things have huge effects on "terrain." Then chemo, and IVC, and heat, COC drugs, and other therapies for kill.
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I am the same weight I was when I was in my 20's and full of energy and in no pain. The "terrain" program I went on during chemo is all I have done differently. I was fit before and exercised about the same. I only do any intentional calorie deprivation for brief "fasting mimicking"-- otherwise I generally eat a lot in my 10-12 hour window. I do not count calories but eat a very clean diet nearly vegan. Weight loss has been effortless. This is a strong signal that my diet and habits were more 'disease-agenic' in the past and are more health-promoting now. About one third of weight loss happened during chemo and fasting and the rest since then with no major fasting.
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So look here Santa...I found this very useful information...I have a huge container of pea protein from TJ that I have not managed to use because of its taste...
Pea protein, however, could be the solution because it's rich in all nine essential amino acids except for methionine, you can't make this stuff up!
The one I have contains 195mg which is maybe 2%, still extremely low...
Eureka! All I have to do now is come up with a tasty chocolate, almond milk shake for lunch...no suffering!
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Good find!
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for those of you that are dragging your ass fatigued and depressed by the SE of your favorite treatment, I have one word for you: seaweed!
I have been so tired, unable to function physically and mentally to the point where I requested and received a 30% reduction in my chemo schedule just yesterday....well...since I'm changing my diet , I pulled out a jar of dried seaweed, wakame, I reconstituted it and had it with a little apple cider vinegar this mo...a few mouthful were enough to get the engine going again...
After I managed to cook and clean, something unheard of around here, I took a long walk to Washington square park with my friend....and just came back...I'm tired but this is something that would have been inconceivable only yesterday....
Remember I got my second week infusion of Navelbine YESTERDAY....so I'm very proud of myself...it's going to be seaweed every morning from now on....
Boy....pea protein and seaweed solutions found all in one day...could it be the SE of the Navelbine??
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Yay for some energy...just keep an eye on your body, we don't want you growing fins! Happy for you and I hope it continues to work.
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thanks Goldie....if the iodine keeps me up all night, I might go downstairs and get the laundry done....Whaooo!!
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frisky for a smoothie they make nut milk kefir (Califia) and coconut yogurt (Cocoyo) both vegan and low carb if you get the unsweetened kind.
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Will check those delights...thanks Santa! So far I'm having a great time with my restricted diet.
Bought huge leeks from the farmer's market...I will make a traditional middle eastern sweet and sour onion pie yummy!
Great source of iron...
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Sending best wishes to everyone this morning.
I'm wondering if anyone has ever taken or heard of anyone taking myricetin and/or quercetin supplements and what effects they reported? A search of the message boards shows nothing except a question on quercetin by another user.
Both compounds seem to be phytoestrogen like, by having the ability to bind to estrogen receptors, which initially sounds bad for some breast cancers, but oddly, I've stumbled across a dizzying array of experiments that indicate that both, and another flavanoid (Fisetin) induce breast cancer cell death for MCF-7 at least.
For example this article: Myricetin suppresses p21-activated kinase 1 in human breast cancer MCF-7 cells through downstream signaling of the b-catenin pathway by Jiao & Zhang 2016 Oncology Reports. I also found this article extremely surprising: The dietary flavonoid fisetin causes cell cycle arrest in triple-negative breast cancer cells by Smith Murphy and others. 2016. They stated: "Fisetin inhibited the growth of MDA‐MB‐468 and MDA‐MB‐231 TNBC cells, as well as their ability to form colonies, without substantially affecting the growth of non‐malignant cells. In addition, fisetin inhibited the growth of estrogen receptor‐bearing MCF‐7 breast cancer cells and human epidermal growth factor receptor 2‐overexpressing SK‐BR‐3 breast cancer cells. Fisetin inhibited TNBC cell division and induced apoptosis"
And this article for Quercetin: Induction of cell cycle arrest and apoptosis in human breast cancer cells by quercetin by Choi, Kim, Lee, Kang......2001. International Journal of Oncology.
Not to throw in a monkey wrench, but another flavonoid like the other two above, called Fisetin, also has articles showing MCF-7 cell death: Dietary flavonoid fisetin targets caspase-3 deficient human breast cancer MCF-7 cells by induction of caspase-7associated apoptosis and inhibition of autophagy. International Journal of Oncology.
Seriously not recommending any of this, but just wondering any of you experienced and bright ladies have tried or heard of anyone using these to any positive or negative effect? Or if you have thoughts on the reported research.
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sevenofnine, I have not read or experimented with those flavonoids...I’m currently focused on low methionine, low carb, restricted food intake that it’s taking a great deal of concentration to pull off. Maybe someone else will be more helpful...good luck
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I am TNBC but have been on Quercetin since summer '18. I do not notice any ill effects. Fisetin looks interesting!
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Frisky: sharing a snack I love-- fresh pickled ginger. The Natural foods market in my town has fresh pickled ginger in sushi section. great, flavorful anticancer low carb snack!
I am joining you and doing the fasting mimicking diet for 5 days, starting today. I have done intermittent fasting but not a formal fast and I want to charge up my immune system with a formal one.
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good for you Santa! I love the pickled ginger as well...the best part of eating sashimi...will get some next time I go shopping!
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husband...I’m thinking about you and wondering how your wife is doing....I hope the hemoglobin problem has been fixed...
I too have low hemoglobin that adversely affects my energy levels...eating seaweed in the morning, which stimulates thyroid functions is helping.
Best wishes
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JFL you’ve been quiet...I hope all is well with you....
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Hi Frisky! I have been reading, but a bit less than usual and also posting a lot less. It is a time thing - I have family in town, recently had a few birthday parties to plan and the holidays were hectic this year. I usually spend time on this site when I should be sleeping so I was trying to cut back for that reason.
I switched COC protocol doctors from Dr. Mendez to Dr. Yang. I believe there are 3 MOs to choose from. I meet with Dr. Yang next week. I am hoping he is a better fit and that he is more responsive.
I hope you and everyone else is doing well.
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We're getting there....
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02366884
Clinical Evaluation of a New Form of Cancer Therapy Based on the Principles of Atavistic Metamorphosis (Atavistic Chemotherapy).
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Thanks Snooky....it's great to know that they are officially studying what we've been suspecting all along....I will use the info to further guide my complimentary treatment. Much love!
JFL glad you’re well and were just enjoying your precious time with your family. Big hug!
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thank you snooky
If it was going since 2011 lots of results should have been obtained already...
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