Ringworm drug for dogs (Fenbendazole) might also cure cancer
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waiting to be infused...the protocol my mo has devised is this: reduced dose of Doxil, same as last time, but given every three weeks, instead of every month. The Doxil should reduce the lesions which would then be treated with Y90 at a later date.
Sonia, the only analgesic with anti cancer properties that I know of is baby aspirin.
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I've heard that some of the selective Cox2 inhibitors such as celebrex might help with some cancers. Its certainly speculative and not without risks.
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Husband11: Yes, I remember that celecoxib was on the list. I've taken it, but it doesn't work for headaches... I think there was another one on the top. Maybe was diclofenaco? I don't remember... I'm suffer from chronic headaches, so I have to take analgesics frequently. I prefer to take the anticancer ones than paracetamol or ergotamine. Thank you!
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analgesics w anti cancer action are aspirin and NSAIDs
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Just ran across this great resource on using drugs off label for fighting cancer. Very comprehensive.
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Interesting you mention diclofenec. I didn't realize there was an oral version. Diclofenec topical 3% solution was recently found in a phase 2 clinical trial to have a 64% cure rate for superficial basal cell carcinoma. I am personally trying it, as I had a spot cut out, but it came back. Its a lot more tolerable than freezing, surgery, for 5 FU cream. Apparently it works really well on sun keratosis as well.
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Husband: Thanks for posting that link. Yes, there it is. Diclofenac I'm going to buy it right now.
Husband, that plant works wonderfull in all types of skin tumors:
It's called pencil tree. 2 drops of latex diluted in about 50 cm3 of water (or colloidal silver, better yet) apply with cotton or gauze 3 to 4 times per day. There is a lot of information in the web about the anticancer properties of this plant, but almost all is in portuguese. I'm in a facebook group about it, and I saw pictures of healed melanomas. I'm taking it orally too
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Sorry guys, I deleted the map because I realize that I don't have permission to use it, and I deeply respect this woman's work.
However, you can see it and refer to it when you click on the link above, originally posted by Husband, that details also the list of off-label medications involved and how to get them prescribed
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Thanks Frisky. I'll have to do some reading to understand all of that.
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the letters stand for things like MET is metformin, URS is ursolic acid, BERB is berberine, etc...
If you look some work on more than one pathway, like Metformin and Berberine...
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Just for clarification- she had a single metastasis in her lungs which has been removed surgically (can not tell from the top of my head whether she had chemo for it).
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Like all stage four cancer patients she was treated to the point where they gave up on her. She developed leukemia from the various treatments and was given no hope till she figured out what to do on her own....and survived. The book is a detailed account of what she did, step by step, which is complex and extraordinary. Unfortunately it's a daunting task.....not for the faint of heart because it involves convincing doctors to do what they are not trained to do: think for themselves and take a risk regardless of disclaimers.
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I am on stuff from all sides of the triangle and so far only the Metformin is a prescription.You can coverseveral sides of triangle with only a few.... Metformin Quercetin Berberine Aspirin.... If you add a few more there are more pathways that get shut down but thats a decent beginning....
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I take 2-3 capsules/day. They have about 330 mg Quercetin each with some vitamin C
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frisky: off-topic, but since you brought it up, which trial involving Ibrance are you referring to? Thanks!
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Sonia: feverfew may be an analgesic for your headache. It has a number of anticancer properties: it inhibits angiogenesis, it increases ROS in cancer cells. Caveat: it may be estrogenic, so do your own research first.
NSAIDs have anticancer properties. Aspirin, too.
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Yes, Sonia, I am aware of COX 2 inhibitors, NSAIDs and aspirin.
Frisky, insane about the version 2 Ibrance trial and that there have been deaths. Given what an extreme response (and not in a god way) it had on you that took such an immediate effect and stopped immediately when you stopped taking the medicine, it really did seem to be a dangerously toxic dose. For someone with a more compromised immune system or a body that is more beaten down by long-term treatment to begin with, I could see how there could be deaths pretty quickly on that drug.
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Hi Luce,
I no longer have the trial number but the goal was for this new Ibrance to work by itself, by blocking three pathways simultaneously. Nice concept on paper!
It's currently being run by Pfizer at all major hospitals throughout the country Mine was at MSK in NYC. I found out yesterday, that they have settled on a much reduced dosage due to the deaths and horrific SE, that I had warned them about two days into the trial.
My whole experience, including trial number daily updates, were posted on the thread about clinical trials that Kattysmith created. I lasted one month before I had to give up..I had never been so sick on any medications in my entire life, including Afinitor.
Topic: Are you currently (or have you been) in a Clinical Trial?
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Good morning ladies. Just wanted to say I took a dose of FZ last night with my Gamma E, Milk Thistle and CBD......I did the one I got here in the US, I have one more dose of that one, then I'll try the one I got from UK. NO FEVER! So it must have had something to do with the antibiotic, or maybe I still had some E Coli, I don't know. OR.....it was the FZ from UK, I'll take that dose tomorrow.
Sonia, when I did rads, every day for 6 weeks back in 08, it only made me tired. Not sure if all rads do the same. But if you do get tired, be sure and rest/nap or it will just get worse.
The tumor on my daughter's kidney was cancer. Dr was confident that he got it all and it should not come back. How the hell does he know that! She heads back home Tuesday.
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Goldie I'm so happy the fever mystery has been successfully solved! We can only pray that your daughter's Mo is right and that he knows what he is doing! There's no reason for your daughter to not succeed, look how well you've doing all these years.
I'm mulling over the possibility of introducing soon, to my Mo the idea that I will be using the metabolic protocol of starving cancer, as a complimentary to his Doxil infusions serving as a coup de gras.
I think this approach will protect and enhance his ego. He might love the idea that it will be his medications that will serve as the death knoll to those supernatural stem cancer cells.
All his nurses have to do really, is sharing my medical records, history, and recent tests results with the oncologist at the other clinic.
Meanwhile, I'll get my cholesterol checked and if it's still on the high side, I think I'll be able to convince my primary physician to prescribe the type of statins that Jane used....
Wish me luck, I'm going to need it....
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Hi there!
Goldie: I'm glad your daughter's tumor could have been completely removed.I hope she will recover soon of this bad dream. Crossing fingers so there is no fever for you! I appreciate your experience with rads.
Luce: I didn't know that feverfew was estrogenic. Thanks for the advice, I have it in my arsenal, but it don't work for me. My headaches are due to the misalignment of my cervical vertebrae (of course the surgery made it worse) so I need something stronger ... I think that with diclofenac I will cover 2 fronts at the same time
Frisky: I love that you play with your MO's ego to take him to your field ... sometimes it's the only way. I wish you luck!
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thanks for the trial info, frisky, i'll find that topic and will read up. i'm pretty sure i know which trial you are referring to: a combo of much stronger cdk4/6 inhibitor and a cdk2 inhibitor. i was interested in that. bummer. ursolic acid may be a "natural" cdk-2 inhibitor, so i've been taking holy basil caps for about a month.
i read jane's book a year ago. i think the approach is a good idea, although i am not taking it for personal reasons. all the best with it!!
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I have a question about Joe’s fb group. I submitted a request to join the group a few days ago. I believe I met the criteria and answered the questions correctly, but still have not been accepted. How long did it take for you guys to join?
Thanks!
Ps. I have been following this thread for some time and I am praying and rooting for all of you ladies!
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BoyMom1- They accepted me quite quickly, but yesterday I saw a post from a moderator that makes me think they are saturated with requests, so it may take a while to accept your. I hope they accept you soon. Thank you for your praying! Hugs
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Hi Ladies,
Had my bone and ct scans on Thurs. Felt sick in my digestive track all night Thurs. Fri. am did a colon flush to get the contrasts out but still feel a bit off. So, I've been laying around trying not to think about cancer. Yea, right!
I got scan reports in my portal yesterday! However, not sure what a lot of it means.....terms I've never heard before. It's signed by a Resident under supervision of the usual Radiologist. Well, this resident used every term he ever learned. I hesitated to post until my ONC apt early Mon am. could clarify.
What I understand for sure. Not NED Not NEAD Not even close (probably)
First time in over a year that I've had improvement in my bones! Taxol did nothing for them first three months in fact it allowed more mets to grow. So the improvement could've been Taxol finally kicked in, Rad to my T10, or the change from Xgeva to the "other bone med"(by infusion) Sorry brain dead today. Just tired. This reduction in bone mets is evidently what dropped my TM.
Lungs...Not sure what the Rad was talking about. Year and a half ago, numerous calcifications and scaring were found. Later scans proved them to be from my having pneumonia and bronchitis several times. Well this report was talking about nodules and gave measurements and positions etc. none of which I understand. And none of which had ever been reported before. (3 mos ago, CT read numerous small nodules half of which have dissipated from last scan, and rest are smaller) His summery on Lungs read, Indeterminate, Atttention on further scans recommended. So,,,
Breast tumor, same issue. His terminology is new to me. I have two tumors in breast but he only talks about one. He also talks about lymph nodes decreasing on L side in relation to earlier scans!!! I have never been told I had lymph node involvement except for ONE node on right side.
Obviously, I need my ONC to explain this to me.
It's depressing. I know it shouldn't be as there are no new mets. And the rest is shrinking, I think.
I'm due for a MRI on Mon. Ordered by Radiology a month ago. They were talking about rads to my C2-3 area. Well this new nuc bone scan doesn't even mention The fracture and mets at the C2-3 area!!!
I'll give a clearer report after Mon.'s appt. Meanwhile I apologize for my lack of Positivity, and my lack of encouragement to others in this post. Main thing is, I went thru the 4 hours of their testing protocol, is it too much to want an understandable report?
I think about all of you and you're always in my prayers.
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yes it is too much to want . You have no progression it looks like and you likely have decreased disease and you are still unhappy ! You are probably just drained and frustrated , it's a rollercoster, you surely will feel better after a good rest xx
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Thank you all for your support about my daughter.
Sonia, I'm so sorry for the headache, I can't even imagine. I know here to do Botox injections for migrains, do you think that might be an option?
Snooky, sorry you are feeling depressed. It is def. hard to lay around and NOT think about cancer. It does sound like the reports are not too bad, hopefully your MO can confirm that for you.
I took my 2 dose yesterday, no fever. Today will be FZ from the UK....fingers crossed.
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Hi all!
SNOOKY: I'm sorry you're feeling so bad and tired ... It's understandable after so much hustle ... How frustrating is the language used by your radiologist! Apparently, you will have to avoid drawing conclusions before seeing your MO. However they do not seem bad results ... The improvement in your bones ... I think I am beginning to notice a pattern in the way in which fenbendazole cures... Bones begin to heal while other tumors seem to grow (I think they swell before they die, I hope I'm not mistaken). You're not NED yet. But I think you will get there
Goldie: Thank you! Yes, I know about botox... When I finish the rads and recover the mobility of my arm, I will return to the chiropractor to align my back ... and if that does not work, I will have to resort to Botox. Everything is a struggle ...
I'm glad about you have no fever, I keep my fingers crossed too
Nice Sunday to you all!
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Snooky, I totally agree with Sonia's assessment, and want to add that IMO, garbled language means that they are not sure of what they are seeing. Let's face it, these tests are not perfect or even reliable. They pick up inflammation and infection and things that are dying that are indistinguishable from the rest.
No matter what, my take is you've had a good scan. Please try to feel better, don't let all those uncertainties ruin your day.
We are all doing the best we can with what we have and know, and that's all we can do...meanwhile, to deal with the development of more lesions in my liver, I bought more delicious peaches from the farmer's market, and although they were not organic, I allowed myself to enjoy every juicy and glorious bite....
Watch The Family on Netflix.....you will never be the same afterwards. It squarely places our health problems in the wider context of the real world we live in. It makes the Matrix look quaint
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