Ringworm drug for dogs (Fenbendazole) might also cure cancer
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Frisky, I like your analogy. Joe has done something more than just random. He was given the first two numbers of his combination.
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Exactly! Hopefully those numbers will set the foundation for everything else we are doing—including subjecting ourselves to the SE of the various medications—that will produce survival and freedom from the endless cycle of suffering and fear. It's worth trying, after all what other options do we have
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Wow Goldie! What a beautiful picture! Your daughter is very similar to you, did you know? Have a nice trip!
Anotherone: I understand your rush to go to the results, but don't forget that we are a group of "human beings" here.. we are not laboratory mices. If you read Frisky's report carefully, you'll see that if there were changes ... we don't know how to interpret them but there were. I don't know if the summary you made is appropriate here. I'm sorry but I find it not very kind for my thread mates.
Frisky, enjoy your cabin time!
Husband: The whole issue of supplements also makes me wonder, especially because in studies on mebendazole (wich is similar) they don't mention additional viitamins. Supplementing is never a bad idea anyway ...
Snooky, I hope you are better today.
HUGS
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yndorian (and friskey) , not sure why you assumed I was rushing to results. Even less I understand why resuming something like the very first results of treatment in what was many times described as experiment and trial can be considered unkind. There were people asking how is it going, I myself have asked I believe - so I recapped for the benefit of those and many future people who are going to look at it. Surely anything that makes easier to assimilate information specially when one is vulnerable with this diagnosis, overwhelmed by information and has no time is beneficial?
I am looking forwards to giving any info about me , all the bits that can be useful to someone and looking forward to other people updating their results. I have not made any remarks on any negative traits of other participants in this thread but instead I have had the word "unkind" nd "rushed" used to describe me - can you see the irony?
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Anotherone and Sonia...it's all good...
The truth is we are all swimming in shark infested waters and need each other experiences to learn and to survive...that’s what posting is all about...
One's success or failure unfortunately affects the general mood....yet it's important to keep on trying and to not easily give up.
All success stories point to widespread disease right before the surprising good news...
I personally find the diminished lesions and uptake in my bones kind of miraculous, as nothing conventional can ever get there, according to my past 3 oncologists. That's the reason, stage 4 in the bones patients are never considered for clinical trials.
Was it the FZ? Who know and who the fk cares? I'm happy for me and my buddy Snooky!
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Yes I noticed the bone thing from your update and paid attention to it.
I am not sure what it is with me - for some reason people usually assume I am far dumber than I am from first internet chats - not only here - it is a recurrent theme. 😁
Who in their healthy mind would expect to make firm conclusions from a subjective interpretation of not exactly reproducible tests done with 12 weeks interval of a slow process with images that can mean different things as they are visual representation of a physiological processes on a treatment which we were told likely to kick in 6- 10 weeks.
I would be so curious to compare my scans from the first one to today's one ( 5 weeks after many complementary measures were taken inclusive fenben with no conventional treatment).
Shame one of tests is CT and other PET and on different machines - on top of it I would need the same radiologist commenting on both/oncologist interpreting both comments and I have misplaced someone the disc with one of them ( I know , beyond stupid) and trying to get an access to it again is a major pain in the backside. Shall try to anyway.
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Anotherone: I realize that google translator has made the words sound worse than the intentions with which they were said. I never intended to insult you and surely you did not have the intention that I perceived ... (google translator again) I"m sorry, we all are in the same boat. Hugs
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Here's a very informative video about the benefits of melatonin used in cancer patients. It has a lot of literature references.
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Yandorian - " piece friendship chewing gum"
( explanation- I am originally from the exUSSR and at times in the past when foreigners used to come into infrequent contact with ex Soviet union inhabitants the words quoted above were used to signal good intentions and intentions to trade - considering language barrier and lack of chewing gum in the Soviet state 
). So the expression above is used now in our folklore to signal no hard feelings where misunderstanding has happened. I would never have said that you use Google translate - all your sentences are grammatically correct and do not have automated language gaffes. Very impressive. My English must be more difficult for google as I am not a native English speaker hence more chances for misunderstandings.
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Daniel,
Thanks for posting. That is a really interesting video about melatonin.
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Hello all, just want to pop in and congratulate Snooky, sounds like she has some pretty good results on her last scan! Happy for ya! Wish you continued blessings!
Also, thank you to Frisky and everyone else who is posting about their alt tx protocols. I do not do anything "alt" right now (except take more D3 than my doctor told me to) but who knows when I might need to. Much appreciation to all the ladies here who are "pioneering" in the FenBen protocol and sharing all of your ups and downs with the rest of us.
Speaking of melatonin, I was intrigued by what I read right here about possible anti-cancer properties of melatonin so I decided to try it. I also tend to have trouble falling asleep and have used various supplements for that over the years but never the melatonin. Well, I started taking just 5g melatonin every night and then I developed bone pain. First, my knee starting popping and hurting one day out of nowhere. That subsided, then one day I woke up and the thumb joint on my left hand was so painful I could barely move the thumb, couldn't pick anything up, etc. I googled melantonin side effects and there are reports of people having bone pain from it - in fact, one forum post I found somewhere was someone complaining about the thumb joint just like me! Of course, I'm also on AIs ...so it's hard to know if it is really caused by the melatonin when I am on other drugs that might cause joint stiffness. And, I am also getting old, lol. The thumb is less painful now but still stiff and it is hard for me to use that hand to pick things up. Anyone noticed any side effects from the melatonin?
[Of course, it could also be a bone met. Although that is not a common place for cancer to go, it could happen.]
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Anotherone: I love the phrase! I will definitely adopt it 😘
Snooky: I have been reading in Joe's face that many recommend frankincense essential oil for skin tumors ... apparently it is anticancer and an excellent skin healer.
Olma: Did you take 5 grs or 5 mgs of melatonin? Maybe was too much to start?
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That's me taking a walk down the driveway this morning with my walking stick while I chewed gum and used goggle to translate and communicate beautiful thoughts...Life is wonderful!.
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Frisky, if the courageous Fenbenders on this thread are “trial” subjects and bystanders are the control group, then count me into the control group! Glad I can contribute in some way on this thread
Anotherone and Yndorian, just saying hello to both of you.
Santabarbarian and Husband, interesting about the topical fenben and voltaren. Voltaren is a prescription NSAID cream. I have used the cream for running injuries in the past. I suspect there are many powerful skin mets treatments out there. More research needs to be done.0 -
Oh Frisky - your picture of your walk in the woods brings me peace and a smile...
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I'm glad Chemokaze...the weather was particularly beautiful this morning and a light rain had fed all the creatures green and otherwise....I get to see lots of Bambi, red foxes, black bears and turkey families walk by..
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Frisky, beautiful pic. Reminds me of where I grew up. You must feel such peace, harmony and joy when you visit there! So much oxygen to breathe in among all those green trees!
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Lucky you JFL, you must have had a wonderful childhood surrounded by this amazing beauty.
it's the antithesis of where I live in Manhattan...here it's always totally quiet, deserted, and peaceful indeed...I love the far away vistas of the mountains in the background and the ever changing sky above....best show on earth
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you saying life was wonderful reminded me of one of the best movies I ever watched "Life is beautiful" by an Italian author. Good one to watch when one is down th hole of one's misfortunes.
Funny that you say it yandorian - amongst the changes I made after diagnosis is to rub olive oil with the addition of frankincense one on my chest and back. I do it a few times daily. My friend told me to. I must say this one is far easier to incorporate than veggie smoothies which I still have not managed.🥵
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Hi all, I had to get off the boards for a few hours. Yesterday, I spent as much time outside as possible working in my flower beds and "trying to find my peppers and tomatoes" in a jungle of weeds. After feeling terribly guilty about not taking care of my veggie garden (normally it's one of my great joys) I had to sit and contemplate. Besides the looks of the garden, the plants are growing and they taste just fine. Perhaps my ego was hurt as they really didn't need me. I think God took care of the veggie area. I planted in May and really never went back out there. The chemo made the heat unbearable. But it was all good. Picked couple dozen tomatoes to share with neighbors so it got me out of the house! Goldie, normally I would can excess but just don't have the umph this year.
I also got to walk barefoot In the wet grass from recent rains. Don't know what it is about "barefooting" but I've always shed shoes as far back as I can remember. Once I start Zeloda at the end of this week, I'm thinking maybe that will have to be a thing of the past. You're right Frisky, gotta recharge.
Frisky, that walk looks totally enjoyable! I recently read of a therapy for emotions called forest walking. Have you read about "earthing". Apparently, I've done it unknowingly all my life. The theory is that walking barefoot in the grass we pick up the electrical charges from earths surface. It's always storming and lightening somewhere. Read the theory cause I know I've explained it badly.
JFK, I think it was you that brought up tropical application of FenBen. Believe me I've thought about it. But the Onc wants to use the skin nodules to tell if Zeloda is working. She said it's good for skin cancer (the FU that preceded it, is still used for that purpose) Also, the very day you mentioned it, on Joe's fb page, A lady with a huge tumor on her scalp had a picture of her tumor just one day after application!!!!! wow. It was a mess. It caused the very thing I've been trying to prevent. The tumor had opened up and was weeping.. Seems to me dealing with keeping that area clean would be a big issue.
Olma, Hi nice to see you again. The ten rounds of rads went just like you said they would. The two scans showed all cancer was gone! Sure made it all worth it. Wish blessings for you too dear.
Goldie, thanks for posting that your UK Fenben is apparently ok to take. I have 4mos of it in my stash.
Sonia, Thank you for your sweetness! You always cheer me up!
I know I've left out comments that I wanted to make but wanted to let you all know, I'm still here.
HUGS
S
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Re-researching my old research! Want to imprint on my brain exactly why each supplement that I take is necessary.
Results on Ashwagandha are very encouraging. Giving you a link with recent research.
(Ahwagandha is called withania somnifera at Pub Med..
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=ashwagan...
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I take ashwaganda.... its also pro-relaxation/sleep too.... so i take it w my melatonin and magnesium at bed time.
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This was posted on Joe’s fb page. It’s an article about Flubendazole (similar to Fenben) and it’s relation to Breast cancer. Thought some of you might find it interesting. I apologize if it’s been posted before. I didn’t see it when I searched this thread.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4467440/
The lady that posted it also said...
“...According to this article, the drugs are different by one molecule. If it were me and I was not getting results after 20 or more weeks on fenbendazole, I'd probably rotate this one in for a while and see if it jump started something. To be honest, I might do that anyway. I could rotate it in every 3 or 6 months with the Fenbendazole. I think Joe is right, there will probably be a combination or variation of these drugs to come out...”
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Hi to all of you, brave women!
I just got from the MO office to find out my PET results. Good news!!!!! I am on Fenben since mid May and this scan looks better than all previous. The only problem is my A C is 1000 only but the doc said for now she wouldn’t reduce the Ibrance. I am taking Maitake exstrat, but obviously I have to increase it. Good is great ! My worst spot on my shoulder has a lot less uptake. Of course is because of the protocol!!!!! I am taking only CBD every day and vit E only 3 days a week, omega 3 fish oil and sometimes Barberin. The anxiety was high to the sky, but now is time to celebrate 😀😀😀😀
I hope and I believe that everyone doing the experiment will have great results.
Much love and hugs.
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Snooky, picking vegetables and attending to your garden seems like heaven to me. I'm so happy you're unwinding and finding peace and tranquility in nature. Ashwagandha is definitely a must for me as well, primarily for adrenal supports which leads, as Santa has wisely stated, to a good night’s sleep.
Sonia, thank you for being such a wonderful and supportive friend, I do appreciate it
Boymom, thank you for providing this valuable information and link to the study. It totally makes sense that variations of anti-parasitic preparations could provide another valuable key and solution to our problems
Was there any mention of the precise protocol? How much people were taking and how frequently?
Blueshine congratulations on your results! I'm so happy for you! Yes, I too believe the protocol will work for everyone eventually. Keep us updated please!
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That is great news Blueshine! Wonderful to hear that it worked along side Ibrance, as that is what my wife is on.
When did you start the Ibrance? Is this improvement a change that occurred only after starting the fenbendazole?
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Blueshine!!!!!!! What wonderful news. I'm ecstatic for you. Keep on doing what you're doing, we're all praying for your continued success. Wow. Just wow
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Thank you Frisky and Husband! I started Ibrance 12/2017 and I had up and downs in the PET scans / last one was April / and overall improvements , but this last test is a lot better. Actually two lesions in the bones decreased and one had with 50 percent. Of course Ibrance is working well, but I have the feeling the Fenbendazole was helping too.
Husband, I am following your suggestion about Maitake mushroom extract more than a year and a half and I never had problems with the ANC and white blood cells/ of course they are low but not that bad/ . I started Fenben middle of May and I am thinking maybe Fenben made the ANC for the first time so low. I will continue with the protocol but I definitely will increase the Maitake to 60 or 70 drops.
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Thank you Snooky. I am happy for your good results too. It’s time to celebrate with cake! Next month I am going to my country in Europe and I worry about this low blood counts. Airplanes are perfect environment to catch something nasty. I’ll try to concentrate on preparing for the trip, instead of worrying.
Love and prayers for healing.
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Blueshine…..we both had the same experience. Healing in the bones! In my case I had two areas that didn't show up. Frisky is right healing in the bones is hard. Yes lets have a Fenben cake. When we're NED we'll chase it down with something special. HUGS
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