Ringworm drug for dogs (Fenbendazole) might also cure cancer
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Just an interesting tidbit from my Onc apt on Mon. We were just chit chatting and I told her I met someone via the internet who has been MBC for 17yrs!!!
She said Oh I can top that! I have a patient who's been MBC for 27yrs!!! and she still has a good quality of life.
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congratulations and many thanks for posting , that's very good to hear.
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that's indeed an amazing feat Snooky...by any account...may we all heal ourselves and permanently get off the merry-go-around of doctors and treatments.
That's me in my little cabin in the woods this morning....before getting out of bed...note the hairdo...
...Oh and my hair was completely white before I started drinking Chaga tea, brewing polypores mushrooms and now Maitake extract!
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OMG Frisky we are hair twins!
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Blueshine that is so awesome so happy for you!!! I don't know if I missed it but it looks like you are the only one here that is on Ibrance and Ibrance is working for you and you decided to add in Fenben WOW! How come you decided to add it in and not wait to see if you could continue on the Ibrance? You have been having Ibrance working for over 2 years right? Thats AMAZING.
I have only done 3 bottles of Ibrance and had my first PET 2 weeks ago and the results were good all tumors in liver shrunk and one of the bone mets is completely resolved...but I am keeping a close eye on the fencen because I definitely want to add it in at some point. I was just nervous about adding it in now if Ibrance is working....I am happy to see you have done so and its working!!! So happy for you!!
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Blueshine\Snooky\Frisky,
Looks like all three of you had some type of positive impact from taking fen Ben. Congrats, I hope it continues to work for you.
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It's soo good to hear 17 years and 27 years! Actually I don't want to get too old, I am praying for 10 more😀😀😀!
Frisky you look happy and healthy. Enjoy the nature.
Nicole, I decided to jump to Fenbendazole the moment I heard about. How? Nothing to lose, but possible gain. Almost no SE..... When I started the protocol I was 18 months on Ibrance. It kept me stable, with very little improvements. We all know that soon or later Ibrance will stop working and instead to wait for progression, I decided to take action in my hands , instead to rely on doctors, did some research and jumped.
I am thinking about buying Mebendazole in Europe, since there is cheaper and rotate a few months Fenben and a few months Mebendazole. I need more research, but anyway I'll buy it.
Love you all.
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NicoleRod/Blueshine- I'm curious about adding this protocol to my treatment. I have been watching this thread and I'm taking Ibrance 125/femera with positive results since June 2018. Wondering if I should wait until I have to make a change and let ibrance run it course as long as possible? Thinking I would just start Fenben and vit e?
Congrats to all the trailblazers here and praying the positive results Continue!!! Thank you for sharing!!
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Anewbreath...I am with you ..thinking the SAME EXACT THINGS!!
I started the Vitamin E last week. I take it everyday. So happy for you that you have a year with positive results on Ibrance.0 -
Blueshine, this is amazing!🎆🥂🍾✨ I'm really happy for you!
I love Snooky's garden stories and Frisky's pictures.
Hugs to you all
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Blueshine,
Mebendazole, which I take it is a cousin of fen ben, is one of the drugs that Care Oncology Clinic in London (also licensed in the US) puts into their drug cocktail. Interestingly, Hopkins is doing some clinical testing on that drug, I believe, but it's for maybe pancreatic cancer? I'm not sure.
Can you buy it without a prescription in Europe? Specifically, do you know if you can get it in London? If so, I might follow your lead and get it there.
Thanks for any info that you have about that.
Bev
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BevJen, I heard you don’t need prescription for Mebendazole. In England cost around 10 pounds, but this is what I heard. In September I’ll know more and I will post .
Anewbreath, I wish I would have answer.... I was thinking the same, to wait until progression, but I couldn’t wait... what if it will be too late to start, no one cancer is exactly the same like on other. Just listen to your inner voice and trust your intuition. You know , we are Alone in this jungle and we have only each other for support .
Hugs to all
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NicoleRod and Blueshine thank you for your kind words! You are right, it is so hard to tell. I definitely feel like my best chance at managing this cancer long term is by going outside of standard of care and researching additional options. This is totally outside the box for me but I’m going to order Fenben and vitamin E. I’ll start taking vit e when it arrives and hold off with Fenben for a bit. With ibrance so new I worry about drug interaction. I don’t feel comfortable not telling my MO but not sur he would agree 🤔 I’m excited to follow this thread.
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I will be starting the COC protocol next week. I\L has been good so far for me but I feel I needed to add something to the standard treatment also.
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Husband, my husband was a big fan of a lot of those old west shows.
Sonia, funny you say that about my daughter. She actually looks like her dad. When I registered her for kindergarten, the person I was dealing with asked me if she ask me something personal, I said sure. She asks me if Jennifer is actually MY daughter!
Frisky, I love your analogy of us "swimming in shark infested waters". And what a beautiful picture of you walking down the driveway. Are there dangerous animals out there? Oops, yep I see that know, you be careful of those bears. Put bells on your shoes! We have been to Zion and Bryce Canyon. Also been to Best Friends, that place is absolutely beautiful, especially the cemetary parts with all the huge wind chimes. I've never seen a human cemetary that gorgeous! Oh gosh, you look really good before getting out of bed, no way would I post a picture of that! And so nice to put that gorgeous face to a name, thank you. And your hair changed color?
Snookums, (do you mind if I call you that) I only took one dose of the UK FZ. Now it is all I have and will start again Friday. I brought my thermometer to Utah just in case. I don't really have enough tomatoes to can this year, but think I have enough from last year. 17 years clean, are you talking about Denny? Gosh don't we all want that? I'd take 27 years too!
Blueshine, that is awesome news to hear and news that we are hoping for. Congrats and may you continue with good results. Have you told any of your doctors you are taking FZ?
Going today to Circleville to see the home of Butch Cassidy. Drive back through through the mountains. Just doing a scenic ride, I love those. Here is one of the pics I took at Best Friends. The wind chimes are huge!
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Joe's FB page
Hi guys I have advanced secondary breast cancer Er+ metastasised to rib, spine (l4, l5, and T10) pelvis and hip.. Started Joe Tippens protocol 9 May 2019 with x2 grams daily taking only one or two days off here and there. I increased my dose to x4 grams two weeks before my ct scan. At the time of my scan (30 July) i had been on the protocol for 13 weeks. I am taking vit D3, vit B12, fish oil, asprin, and milk thistle. Stopped taking Vit E and curcumin. Hardly changed my diet... I take Ibrance and Letrozole
Scan results are N.E.D 😁😁😁 Thank you so much Joe!! Stay positive warriors this really does work! 💪🎗 xx
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Wow, that is amazing and encouraging Snookie. I pray that every one of use will report the same great news.
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Its wonderful result, Snooky, after only so little time on Fenbendazole!!!!😀😀😀 Thank you for posting, I missed that one, there are so many posts every day in this Facebook group.....
Hopefully in the next few months will start seeing NED reports here too.
Goldie, this time I told my doctor about Fenben and for my surprise she new about Mebendazole and Fenben. When I ask her how she new she said it’s a hot discussion among oncology doctors from everywhere. Oh, ... and they waiting to se what will happen with us.... I am sooo mad! At the end she told me Fenben was not going to cure me!!!! Than I asked her, will the chemo heal me? No, there is no cure! I was furious, but decided to concentrate on the Good
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Blueshine,
Mebendazole is important because it acts similarly to some chemos but with apparently fewer side effects- therefore it might synergize with other treatments, depending on the genetic features of the cancer and the other drugs that are being taken. Your doctor is right,they are starting to look at it in a couple phase 1 trials, as usual starting with monotherapy.
at Johns Hopkins for pediatric brain cancers:
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02644291
in Sweden for colon cancer:
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03628079
NIH, on safety: There have been rare reports of acute liver injury due to mebenazole, particularly when it is given repeatedly or in higher doses. The onset is usually with fever and malaise within days of starting or restarting therapy. The pattern of serum enzyme elevations is typically hepatocellular and jaundice is uncommon. The abnormalities usually resolve rapidly with stopping therapy. Signs of hypersensitivity (rash, fever and eosinophilia) are typical and liver biopsy may show granulomas.
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Snooky, thank you for posting such a uplifting and detailed success story, right when we needed it! Onwards we go FZ all the way!
Goldie, I hope you check in and get to read this amazing success story, as you travel and enjoy the gorgeous landscapes
blueshine, Joe has been cancer free for years...that's how we know that there's a high probability that we will be cured ourselves.
Admitting that something so inexpensive and free of SE works, would be suicidal for our doctors and hospitals. Can you imagine what those waiting rooms would look like, if everyone could buy over the counter supplements and treat themselves? It would be a nightmare! But, of course, they can always count of the majority of folks on these boards that believe a cure based on a genetic understanding of cancer is right around the corner, to continue taking care of the economic needs of those hospitals and doctors....
Right now, what the medical establishment and FDA are doing, is desperately trying to figur out how they are going to block this treatment, how they are going to fk us up....they have done it before and they will do it again, they are shameless.
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Cureious...it's ironic and entertaining that based on the report you'v posted, it seems that as usual, when doctors get involved, nothing works and SE abound....hummm...the height of wisdom lies in a single quote: Measure is All, and that's exactly what seems to elude our doctors, they have no clue about the measure of things and we suffer and die because of this. Because nothing they offer really works, they seem to think that larger amounts of dangerous medications are better...
Why use a medication that needs a prescription when the over the counter one will do?
Major delays, costs, and control issues seem to be the logical conclusion...but WE don't have that luxury and neither have they....increasing number of people are being diagnosed ....I buried my first MO two months after I met him, and he was younger than I...just stating how shortsighted and foolish the whole situation truly is.
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I think many are more cynical than I am... but I trust my MO completely (even though he is totally by the books). He is honest with me. He does not exaggerate. I believe he is 100% committed to saving lives and curing the maximum number of people. He is not going to suppress something that is a genuine, proved benefit to patients. However, his head would explode to think of a few dozen women online as a stand-in for a clinical trial. He needs super-clean-data, large numbers, no placebo effect, and controlled variables. That does not make him a bad guy, just a tight ass about science. BUT whenever I question him about an approach I am considering, he is willing to discuss risk/benefit with me honestly which is what I need to know from him.
For example Vit C IVs. He said he would not recommend them. I said why not? What is risk of harm? And he replied "there is higher risk of infection due to needle sticks." And I said, "I'll be glad to assume that risk then." and my decision was respected. He then looked up every supplement I was on due to my Integrative consult to inform himself. (I was honest about all the stuff I did on the side.) He was definitely willing to consider stuff like Xtandi off label due to my AR+ if 1st line went poorly. He gave me Metformin with no issue. He'd probably write a scrip for Mebendazole if I were in a situation of recurrence. But not now, when I am in a state of health. I get that and this is a data point I need to have, to make an informed choice. I always feel very respected by my MO and when he has a strong reaction to a complimentary approach I listen. Halfway thru chemo when my tumor had imploded he said: "I'll keep doing what I'm doing, and you keep doing what you're doing, and we're going to defeat this cancer."
OTOH I believe that drug companies, who decide what gets funded for a trial, have no interest in cheap cures but rather in the new American god of corporate profits. This is why medicine must ultimately be socialized because good medicine is incompatible with a profit motive.
So so so exciting to see the good scans. Rooting for all of you.
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Santa, I have no doubt there are well-intentioned and honest doctors out there, and I'm glad your experience is a positive one. All doctors are equally excited by the results of clinical trial, it's too bad that they produce uneven results and misery for all of us that have to subject ourselves to their scientific idiocy
My criticism is directed at the pharmaceutical industrial complex, of which doctors and hospitals are an integral part. My criticism is directed at the fact that there are no cures for cancer and 1600 Americans die every day.
In my business, this much failure and ineptitude would have been considered a disaster, instead of being greatly rewarded...that's all I'm saying...
God bless honest doctors that know the measure of things and have the humility to know when their treatments are not only useless by likely to shorten our lives.
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Snooky, thanks for sharing the success story!
My MO... well, she is really a good person, I appreciate her ... I think she really believes in conventional tx... The last time I saw her, she told me: Congratulations, you endured the chemo, you endured the surgery and now you are going to make rads. You are doing everything so you can live...I started to cry shaking my head ... she asked me: Do you not believe in treatments? I did not have the heart to tell her that I am doing all this against my will, that I would not have wanted any of this, except perhaps the surgery, and that if I heal, it will not be thanks to the treatments but in spite of them...
I couldn't agree more with what Frisky says, word for word, letter for letter.
Today I am very sad because of the death of a woman I met on the web ... she had mets to the liver recently ... died by chemotherapy, no way cancer had time to kill her. Sorry, today is not a good day to me...
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Y...so sorry to hear about the loss of your friend
I have a question about Metformin... I understand that it can help block pathways of cancer, and that some people here that take it, take it for that reason not because their sugar is high. So is it safe if a persons sugar is normal? When I had my PET scan last week they checked my fasting sugar and it was 81. Is anyone here on metformin and around that number, does the metformin lower that number and I would be at risk for low blood sugar?
Thanks for any and all info
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Hi Yandorian. I can understand you so well how you feel. But you had Lumpectomy and you must have radiation. you are young and will be OK. You are so smart and you are staying one step ahead of the game, by getting information how to prevent MBC.
Frisky, I agree with you, the pharmaceutical industry is like tornado, swallowing everything that brings them money. The majority don't care about us, thats why we are doing what we are doing.....What makes me mad is that they want to take away the hope from us. It is the only thing we have....I respect Joe for saying - If I can save one life with my protocol, I would be happy!!!!!!
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Cure-ious, I am glad you are following this thread. Your knowledge is priceless for us. I want to have Mebendazole, just in case when I need it. I am not going to take it now.
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My wife takes metformin 2x daily and she has normal blood sugar levels. She doesn't seem to suffer from taking the metformin, despite not having any type 2 diabetes. She also takes a large dose of maitake extract daily, which also purportedly lowers blood sugar levels. Doesn't seem to be a problem for her.
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Blueshine, Like everybody, I'm curious to see how everyone fares! I have already ordered fenbendazole for our cocker-shitzu, Minxie, who is currently in remission from an aggressive cancer, and doing well after 1.5 years. Its a wonderful feeling to know that if and when it returns, we've got something we can give her!!!
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Sonia it's okay to feel sad and to mourn the loss of your friend...we are here to support you no matter how you feel...the ability to truly feel—not thinking about feelings—is a precious gift that few of us get to recover from our disastrous childhoods....
I wish I could hug you right now...just know your friend's suffering is over...she has returned to the big matrix, and who knows...she could be smiling already through the eyes of a newborn child as we speak, as he/she opens its eyes for the first time and sees only a smiling and welcoming face.
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