I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

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  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
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  • illinoislady
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    Why I'm Never Putting a Joe Biden Flag on My Truck

    by John Pavlovitz

    I was talking to a co-worker today. (OK, well, technically I was arguing with an anymous Twitter troll—but hey, work is work, right?) As Patriot45FreedomGuy launched a fierce barrage of 280-character, word salad salvos at me about how disgraceful the Democrats are and what a hero Donald Trump is, he declared himself a proud member […]

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 41,001
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    After reading this piece I started thinking about the many places Dh and I pass on our way ( thinking mainly down South of us to Marion , Illinois ) somewhere and we still see signs ( a couple of rather lg. ones as well ) left in people's yards. I have to think they for sure are of the opinion that something odd took place to give Biden enough votes to win the election.

    As I think about these individuals I wonder if they still somehow think Trump will find a way ( or maybe the Reps. ) to still overturn the election due to fraud on the Democratic side or something akin to that. Strange times. I don't know whether to laugh or to feel sorry for people who are so out of it. They really have lost the ability to believe in "norms" and the things that have been true for us so long in this country. I guess at least we have a way to identify those who are not quite in their right minds although in their slight defense ( because they really don't deserve any ), I guess having a deranged other guy to start the fire of demented thinking, and a lot of Reps. in government to keeping doing a gasoline soak, maybe their is no real surprise.

    If I hope anything I guess I'd like to think that something comes along to break the spell. I'm not sure they ( whomever they really are ) are redeemable but surely a few could some to their senses.

  • beaverntx
    beaverntx Member Posts: 2,962
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    And realize that bipartisanship does not mean you do as I say!

    Personally, I am so frustrated and saddened by all of the "voting improvement" acts and, now, in Texas they want to allow open carry without a permit so who knows what the capability of the gun toter is?

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
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    Omg, Jackie, that is the BEST article!


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    ....l helped elect a man and a woman in President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris.....And I don't need to love everything they do and I am not required to fall in lock-step with this President and I'm not a mindless sycophant to him. I know his party isn't here to fall prostrate before him in blind adoration—which why they wouldn't throw his Democratic critics into a volcano the way Republicans do people like Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney, and anyone else who dares question the maniacal fits of their outvoted, barely literate deity.

    It's the same reason this nation isn't covered in Biden swag right now: because politics is not our religion and because we find meaning in our own existence.

    I think Biden's doing an amazing job, but I don't have a flag with his name on it on the back of my car—because he's my president not my savior, and because I'm a rational adult human being who doesn't need a stranger to give me my identity.

    No matter what President Biden does, I'll never be compelled to slap his face on my bumper or on my left pectoral muscle, because there was never a gaping hole in my life that he was ever going to fill. I am not defined by a cult of personality that exists to stroke the ego of a hollow shell of a man, and I don't need goofy red hats and graven images and asinine truck flags to prove I'm a patriot.

    I already showed my love for this country and its people by voting for a mature, stable, and sincere though inherently flawed human being—who doesn't seek attention like oxygen, doesn't need my worship in order to survive, and doesn't complete me

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
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    Granted, I still see a few flags flying for the former guy in my travels in OH, WV and PA but there's a significant reduction since January. One weirdo in the country has four flagpoles side by side with Trumpy flags on them, like he's the United Nation of Drumpf.

    My thoughts are that if Republicans want to practice bipartisanship and promote unity, they along with Dems all need to fly one flag and one flag only and that is the official United States of America flag. It's all I've ever flown and all I ever will fly. My dad, a mailman and WWII, veteran hung the flag on the porch for every national holiday (he always had those days off from work), and when I moved into my house decades ago, I started flying the U.S. flag on holidays, too. The people in my little town have a penchant for decorating their porches for every season, and now I fly the flag every day from Memorial Day to Labor Day.


  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
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    beaverntx, the open carry without a permit is exceedingly unsettling.


  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,923
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    So many great memes! Herd stupidity about sums it up.....except those who know better & are in it for raw political power......they can be classified as pure evil. Makes me hope that there is a Dante's Hell as they would definitely qualify for one of the inner rings of it!

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,923
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    I found this on Facebook:

    I was looking at an article by John Pavlovitz. I saw a comment that took me to this page. This was brilliant, ""I voted for Joe Biden because I wanted an intelligent, qualified, compassionate adult making important decisions about complicated issues—not because I lacked a cult leader to define me and give me purpose and fill in the holes in my existence."



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  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
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    Hahaha! Obama + former guy = Obama IQ! LOL

    I did a good deed last week. I wanted to transfer a prescription to Walmart and got to the pharmacy early. One quiet, unassuming guy ahead of me, 40-ish, jeans, flannel jacket, glasses, ball cap. He tells the pharmacy tech he wants to get the Covid vaccine. Pharm tech, 30-ish, needs Quiet Guy's ID and insurance card. Quiet Guy has ID but says he didn't bring his insurance card. Tech says, 'sorry we need your card for you to get the vaccine. Without it, we can't give it to you.' Quiet guy stands there for a minute, deflated and dejected, not knowing what to say or do.

    I'm 6 feet behind Quiet Guy witnessing all this, so, loudly I say to the tech behind the plexiglass: "WHADDAYA MEAN HE CAN'T GET THE VACCINE? YOUR SIGN RIGHT THERE SAYS 'FREE VACCINE'! I GOT MINE AT THE MALL (next door) AND THEY DIDN'T NEED MY INSURANCE CARD! THIS GUY'S HERE AND WANTS THE VACCINE AND HE NEEDS TO GET IT!....."

    The tech mumbles about store policy and whatnot and I keep up my objections so tech gets the pharmacist who comes over, assesses the situation and says in lieu of the insurance card, they can just get Quiet Guy's social security number and he can get the vaccine.

    It takes almost 10 minutes for them to get QG's info, have him fill out a form and have the pharmacist explain the vaccine option choices. I stand patiently waiting my turn six feet away. Quiet Guy must have thanked me at least 10 times for speaking up for him. I was happy to do it! Who knows what his story was, whether it was his only day off work, or he drove in from out in the country, or he finally worked up the courage to get the vaccine; I don't know but no one should be turned away from getting the vaccine who wants it unless there are medical reasons not to give it to them!


  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Member Posts: 8,178
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    Good on ya Devine!! 💃💃💃

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,923
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    Thank you, Divine!!!

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  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,923
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    Tried to insert a link that didn't work!

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 41,001
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    Yes a big thank you Divine. I think I know someone else who would be saying the same thing to you. I heard Pres. Biden on the tv encouraging EVERYONE to get vaccinated. Makes me wonder who else might have been turned away. We cannot afford that.

    I have been reading John Pavlovitz almost as long as Heather Cox Richardson. Both delight me with how they present their articles/blog entries.

    ETA: Love the new avatar, Ruth.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,923
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    Thanks, Illinois!

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 41,001
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    Look what passes as stand-up humans nowdays. Frightening to know people in that condition roam around loose.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 41,001
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    When we respect our blood ancestors and our spiritual ancestors, we feel rooted. If we find ways to cherish and develop our spiritual heritage, we will avoid the kind of alienation that is destroying society, and we will become whole again. ... Learning to touch deeply the jewels of our own tradition will allow us to understand and appreciate the values of other traditions, and this will benefit everyone. -Thich Nhat Hanh

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 41,001
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    I am putting this here because I find it amazing. I am going to see if it is so, but I've usually not had any issue for the Blue Dem Warriors site I have used quite a bit.


    May be an image of outdoors, monument and text that says 'ljust ran across this and it blew my mind! MELVINIA SHIELDS 1844~ 1938 1844 THIS MEMORIAL IS DEDICATED ΤΟ THE REMARKABLE LIFE OF MELVINIA "MATTIE" SHIELDS MCGRUDER. SHE WAS BORN A SLAVE IN SOUTH CAROLINA IN 1844. AT AGE SHE WAS BROUGHT ΤΟ THE NEARBY SHIELDS FARM IN WHAT IS NOW REX, CLAYTON COUNTY, GEORGIA. HER FAMILY WOULD ENDURE A FIVE-GENERATION JOURNEY THAT BEGAN IN OPPRESSION AND WOULD LEAD HER DESCENDANT το BECOME FIRST LADY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA MICHELLE OBAMA'

    ETA: I did find that Mattie is indeed a past relative of Michelle Obama. Mattie passed away at the age of 94 -- so this is apparently true.

  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Member Posts: 8,178
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    wow!

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 41,001
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    Here is the opposite of the above pretty much. Extraordinarily sad.


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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 41,001
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    I have been reading as likely all of you have that some of the things being done right now are not perhaps what it may look like at all. One point is that Liz Cheney is setting herself up for a '24 presidential run. If she risks the embarrassment ( slight actually ) now, she can in '24 if the Congress ( GOP ) has to finally disavow the orange loony if he gathers too many indictments, or even jail, ( I'd be looking more at indictments and provable huge mis-steps on his and his cohorts ledgers ) then Liz can say she was first to basically call the orange thing out for THE BIG LIE while all the rest hung onto to THE BIGGEST LIAR.

    Then again, with McCarthy sounding as though he is fine with the idea that Biden won fair and square I could think ( not actually sure at all ) that Cheney and McCarthy have a whole scenario plotted out. I'm though not sure McCarthy has the actual mentality to pull much off. He castigated Trump when Jan 6 took place and then when it seemed he wouldn't be followed for it, went back to kissing up the orange thing and the orange way. He is the wishy-washiest person, not that others haven't done it ( like McConnell and Graham ) in the Reps. party. I think almost the whole entire bunch are highly un-trustworthy and the less room any of the Democrats give them the better.

  • yesiamadragon
    yesiamadragon Member Posts: 343
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    Sigh. Some of you here have also been in a thread in which "freedom" is being bandied about in terms of masks and vaccines.

    I applaud those of you who spoke up. I was on my cell phone at work (since my work computer completely quit and I waited 4.5 hours for the IT call-back that never came on my "urgent" ticket) and didn't have my log in, and now I am not going to wade back into that muck.

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
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    YeslamaDragon, I want to say this as nicely as possible, but the one who started tossing out the word freedom seems to like getting all worked up over stuff. I want to be nice because you never know what others are going through on a personal level. I’ll leave it at that.

    Jackie, love the Melvinia Shields memorial!



  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,873
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    Divine: What a nice way to say someone has their knickers in a twist! Yes, they have had some health challenges lately and have been in a crisis tailspin but there is a limit to how much vitriol one can spew before it becomes worrisome. I am hoping that they can find the solace they need and require to re-establish a sense of equilibrium. I also hope they opt to get the vaccine to decrease the possibility of yet another health crisis.

  • illinoislady
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    May 12, 2021

    Heather Cox Richardson

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    As expected, this morning the House Republicans removed Wyoming Representative Liz Cheney from her position as conference chair after she refused to stop speaking out against the former president for instigating the January 6 attack on our Capitol and the counting of electoral votes for President Joe Biden. The Republicans ousted her by voice vote, which meant that no one had to go on the record for or against Cheney, and the Republicans kept the split in the party from being measurable. It also ensured that she would lose; she has survived a secret ballot vote before.

    Before the vote, Cheney allegedly told her Republican colleagues: "If you want leaders who will enable and spread his destructive lies, I'm not your person; you have plenty of others to choose from." After the vote, she went in front of the cameras to say that she would lead the fight to reclaim the party from Trump, and said: "I will do everything I can to ensure that the former president never again goes anywhere near the Oval Office."

    After her ouster, Trump Republican Representative Madison Cawthorn (NC) tweeted ""Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey, goodbye Liz Cheney." The former president echoed Cawthorn: "Liz Cheney is a bitter, horrible human being. I watched her yesterday and realized how bad she is for the Republican Party. She has no personality or anything good having to do with politics or our Country."

    After convincing his caucus to dump Cheney and embrace Trump, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) told reporters: "I don't think anybody is questioning the legitimacy of the presidential election. I think that is all over with."

    This was a breathtaking statement. McCarthy himself challenged the certification of Biden's win, and just last week, Trump made a big announcement in which he called the election of 2020 "fraudulent." The Big Lie animating the Republicans today is that Trump, not Biden, really won the 2020 election.

    But McCarthy is not alone in his gaslighting. Yesterday, in the Senate Rules Committee markup of S1, the For the People Act protecting the vote, ending gerrymandering, and pushing big money out of our elections, Senator Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said: "I don't think anyone on our side has been arguing that [voter fraud] has been pervasive all over the country."

    The false claim of widespread voter fraud is, of course, exactly what Trump Republicans have stood on since the 2020 election. It is the justification for their voter suppression measures in Republican states, including Texas, Iowa, Georgia, Florida, and, as of yesterday afternoon, Arizona.

    In today's House Oversight Committee hearing on the January 6 insurrection, Republican lawmakers in general tried to gaslight Americans, as they tried to paint that unprecedented attack on our democracy as nothing terribly important. Although 140 law enforcement officers were injured, five people were killed, more than 400 people have been charged with crimes, and rioters did more than $30 million worth of damage, Republican representatives downplayed the events of the day, insisting that they were not really out of the ordinary. Representative Andrew Clyde (R-GA) said that calling the attack on the Capitol an insurrection is a "bald-faced lie" and that "if you didn't know the TV footage was a video from January the 6th, you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit…."

    CNN later called Clyde's remarks "absolute nonsense." Even the definition of insurrection Clyde quoted—"an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country usually by violence"—showed the attack of January 6 to be an insurrection. And, as lawyer and CNN analyst Asha Rangappa noted tonight on Twitter, at his second impeachment trial even Trump's own lawyers did not dispute that the events of January 6 were a violent insurrection. The record is clear.

    Republican lawmakers like Clyde did, though, echo the former president's interview on the Fox News Channel in March when he said that when his supporters went into the Capitol they posed "zero threat" and were "hugging and kissing the police and the guards…. A lot of the people were waved in, and then they walked in and they walked out."

    The former president appears to be continuing to exercise control over his underlings. Former Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen and former Acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller provided testimony at the House Oversight Committee hearing, and what they would not say was revealing. Rosen refused to answer questions about whether Trump asked him to try to overturn the 2020 election. Miller's prepared remarks had included a sentence that said "I stand by my prior observation that I personally believe his comments encouraged the protesters that day." In his testimony, he omitted that line, and later tried to walk it back, trying to draw a line between people who marched on the Capitol and those who broke into it.

    But with Cheney and her supporters now in open revolt, and with news about the Capitol attack dropping, and even with more information coming about the ties between the former president and Russia, will Republican Party leaders manage to sweep everything under the rug?

    Today, at a hearing on domestic extremism today before the Senate Appropriations Committee, Attorney General Merrick Garland and Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas both testified that the most serious domestic national security threat in the U.S. right now is that of white supremacist gangs. "I think it's fair to say that in my career as a judge, and in law enforcement, I have not seen a more dangerous threat to democracy than the invasion of the Capitol," Garland said. "There was an attempt to interfere with the fundamental passing of an element of our democracy, the peaceful transfer of power. And if there has to be a hierarchy of things that we prioritize, this would be the one we'd prioritize. It is the most dangerous threat to our democracy. That does not mean that we don't focus on other threats."

    For his part, President Biden is refusing to get sucked into the Republican drama, instead focusing on the country. Today an advisory panel for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention endorsed the Pfizer vaccine for children as young as 12, and the CDC signed off on the recommendation, making it easier to reopen schools in the fall.

    Today Biden met at the White House with Republicans McCarthy and McConnell, as well as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY), to try to hash out an infrastructure plan, although the Republicans have said they will absolutely not consider raising the corporate tax rates from where Trump's 2017 tax cut dropped them. It was the first time McCarthy and McConnell had visited the West Wing since Biden was elected.

    It was in the context of visiting the president that McCarthy tried to say that there was no Republican questioning the legitimacy of the 2020 election (although, of course, more than two thirds of Republicans currently believe in the Big Lie). "We're sitting here with the president today," he told reporters.

    Will today's gesture be enough to make swing voters forget the party's wholehearted embrace of the former president? Shortly after House Republicans removed Cheney from her leadership position, nine out of 14 voters in an Axios focus group said they would be willing to vote for a Republican in next year's congressional races. But of those, 8 said they would not back any Republican who supports Trump's lie that he won the 2020 election.

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
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    Betrayal, a while back, there was a great big bru-ha-ha on a thread and freedom person was involved. Things became very tangled so I permanently separated myself from the whole thing even tho I’d contributed for a couple years.


  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
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    haha, this one cracks me up

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