I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!
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Yes, ChiSandy, I think some people did get careless, but I don't think that's the main driver of our increased cases. I think it was inevitable given our population and population density here in LA.
Newsom was very clear that we were going to get hit hard, even with the lockdown. We were just hoping to avoid the kind of meltdown we saw in NY. And it did work. Our per capita rate is far better than most of the states that didn't lock down at all. Still hard, though. My husband is a production sound mixer in the tv industry and they have been shut down nearly 4 months. I shut my small jewelry business down at the same time. Not sure when we'll be able to get back to work.
Just want all of you wonderful ladies who post here to know that uou have done a lot to help me keep my sanity in these crazy times. I check in here a couple of times a day to see what great memes have been posted. Thank you, all.
Trish
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Trish, so sorry about the ankle. At least you won't get bitten by a Murder Hornet if you are sitting on your couch. What a bad year all the way around!! I love this thread. I have people in my life who feel as I do, but I don't hash things out with them every day like we can do here.
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Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with great talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence, determination alone are omnipotent. -Calvin Coolidge
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Simply incredible that Trump is trying to do the ACA dump now. Maybe he is trying to go crazy with a monkey wrench now to do as much destruction as possible.
How about Trump, how much care if your in the federal hoosegow???
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I doubt that SCOTUS will overturn ACA. To do so would energize more people to vote for Biden and would give a new Congress the chance to pass a better bill without the flaws of ACA.
I just read an article that voter registration is way down because of the virus. Now that could be a problem. If you are watching polls, I suggest you pay attention to the ones of registered voters rather than popularity polls.
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Only 7 months until President Biden can straighten out Trump's mess.
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I hope so with Biden winning but I'm not convinced being voter suppression issues exist.
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Just watched the Corona task force press conference. I have a splitting headache from banging my head on the coffee table......
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Trishya, So sorry about the ankle. I knew someone who used a cheap secretary's chair as a knee scooter to get around in her house. Down the road that might help. I'm sure right now flat is where they want you.
Ruth, I wait to see it in writing. I can speed read faster than listening.
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Ruthbru, that conference was an embarrassing joke. Everyone except Pence wearing a mask. Pence saying we should all just pray. Pence saying how incredible a job Trump has done, and everything is basically just GREAT. UGH. I will never understand how Fauci can stand to associate himself with this idiot administration.
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Funny you should mention the chair to get around, Wrenn. I've been using my office chair. It's bulky but effective! I have crutches, but I hate using them. I don't feel stable on them.
Depending on what the orthopedist says I may get a knee scooter.
I'm with you on the news conference, Ruth. Everyone was sucking up to Trump. It was like listening to something out of North Korea, praising "Dear Leader ". Made me physically I'll to hear it.
Is it November yet?
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I think we are still in a time when news will still be based mainly on what sells so it will be harder to judge just where we are. Not sure anyone will ever get over the way the 2016 election went either. Just read earlier that Chuck Grassley is throwing a real fit and begging his colleagues to do some kind on intervention and get Trump or his merry band of stupid men ( and women ) to read the article in WSJ on how badly Trump is going to lose to Biden if he doesn't get a plan and agenda for 2020/21. Of course, WSJ says at the same time the presidency is lost, the Senate will be lost as well. Sounds like he was practically hysterical.
At the same time this morning, MJ ( Joe Scarborough ) was saying that he wondered if ( since Trump keeps talking like he wants to lose ) if Trump just could pull a fast one or an LBJ and bow out rather than the possibility of a blowout and the humiliation that would come along with that. Many have spoken about how Trump HATES so much to lose. It is not so much that I believe MJ, but that it has been in the wind for awhile how upset many of the Reps. actually are -- and today I'm finally feeling I can actually see some of it. My thought is this -- if Grassley is having a double-died and other Reps. are highly antsy and upset, and Scarborough is bringing forth ideas like an LBJ -- then I'm wondering since many of these people have extra sources of information, just where are we here.
I do tend to think of most of what I've heard the past couple of days to be damming for Trump. At this point he does seem to be handing things over to Biden on a platter. Definitely the Reps seem desperate to get Trump to change his messaging and act like he wants to win. Just interesting times. I'm going to go see what Heather Richardson has to say -- though it is always a day late.
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ROFL Jackie!
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June 25, 2020
Jun 26
Just before midnight tonight, the Department of Justice filed a brief asking the Supreme Court to invalidate the Affordable Care Act-- also known as Obamacare—the health care law that has enabled millions of Americans to get health insurance.
In addition to making healthcare affordable, the law prohibits discrimination because of pre-existing conditions and allows young people to stay on their parents' health insurance policies until they are 26. In 2020, about 11.4 million people signed up for Obamacare policies, while nearly 12.7 million adults are covered by the law's expansion of Medicaid. The law has increased the number of Americans covered by health insurance and slowed the rise of health care costs across the board.
Republicans have vowed to get rid of the ACA since it became a law in 2010. Their opposition is based in their larger objection to an activist government that regulates business, provides a basic social safety net, and promotes infrastructure. Such a government, today's Republicans argue, is essentially socialism: it prohibits an individual's ability to control one's business without government interference, and it redistributes wealth from the haves to the have-nots through taxes.
In 2014, Fox News Channel personality Bill O'Reilly explained: "Obamacare is a pure income redistribution play. That means President Obama and the Democratic Party want to put as much money into the hands of the poor and less affluent as they can and the healthcare subsidies are a great way to do just that. And of course, the funds for those subsidies are taken from businesses and affluent Americans who have the cash…. Income redistribution is a hallmark of socialism and we, in America, are now moving in that direction. That has angered the Republican Party and many conservative Americans who do not believe our capitalistic system was set up to provide cradle to grave entitlements…. Obamacare is much more than providing medical assets to the poor. It's about capitalism versus socialism."
For their part, Democrats believe that regulating business, providing a basic social safety net, and promoting infrastructure is not socialism; it is simply keeping unfettered capitalism from destroying society, and it is precisely what government should do. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) tonight said "President Trump and the Republicans' campaign to rip away the protections and benefits of the Affordable Care Act in the middle of the coronavirus crisis is an act of unfathomable cruelty." Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, who is proposing to expand the law, said "I cannot comprehend the cruelty that's driving him to inflict this pain on the very people he's supposed to serve."
The Trump administration has taken the unusual step of using the DOJ not to defend a law in court, as is its normal role, but to oppose it. Such a position is not unheard of, but it's rare. To kill the law, DOJ lawyers had to file a legal brief by midnight tonight in support of a lawsuit against the Affordable Care Act brought by Republican-dominated states.
The exact timing of this filing was not up to the DOJ, but the move to destroy the Affordable Care Act altogether at this particular moment is nonetheless interesting for two reasons.
First of all, we are in the midst of a global pandemic, and it's not going well. Today America set another record for new coronavirus cases: 39,327. The previous single-day record was the day before, when we had 38,115 new cases. The death toll also jumped to about 2,500. Director of the Centers for Disease Control Robert Redfield told reporters today that antibody tests suggest that the number of Americans who have been infected with the virus is probably ten times what we knew. He estimated that at least 24 million Americans have been infected, about 5 to 8 percent of the population.
America's struggle with the virus stems in part from the unwillingness of the Trump administration to use federal resources to fight it, maintaining that it is not the job of the federal government to underwrite social welfare. Instead, Trump has urged states to reopen and people to go back to work, in part to keep people off unemployment benefits. The administration's insistence on hard-core individualism has prompted Trump and his supporters to reject the use of masks, which we now know are key to slowing the spread of the virus, and to ignore social distancing guidelines.
And now, just as the effects of such toxic individualism have become clear—America has 4% of the world's population and 25% of the world's deaths from Covid-19—the administration is doubling down on that individualism. In the midst of a pandemic that has revealed just how shaky our healthcare system is, the administration is asking the Supreme Court to destroy the law that enables 23 million Americans to afford healthcare insurance. White House spokesman Judd Deere dismissed criticism about killing the Affordable Care Act during the pandemic, saying, "A global pandemic does not change what Americans know: Obamacare has been an unlawful failure and further illustrates the need to focus on patient care."
There is a second reason the timing of this request is interesting. As recently as last month, Attorney General William Barr, who oversees the DOJ, privately urged senior officials to moderate their opposition to the Affordable Healthcare Act, not on principle, but because it is popular, and killing it entirely could hurt the Republican Party badly in an election year… especially in an election year in the midst of a pandemic. That the Department of Justice is taking this strong stance right now, as Trump's polling numbers continue to slide, suggests that Republican leaders are eager to kill the law while a Republican president still controls the DOJ.
There were two big indicators today that the Trump campaign is nervous about the upcoming election. First, CNBC ran a story about finance executives shifting their support to Biden, despite their fear he will raise the corporate tax rate from 21% to 28% (it was 36% before Trump's tax cuts) and restore regulation. According to the article, financiers are furious with Trump's handling of the pandemic, which is both crippling the economy and making America look pathetic compared to the European Union. With their switching loyalty—or at least their changing view of the likely outcome of the 2020 election—financiers are donating to Biden's campaign, injecting cash where it will further hurt the Trump campaign.
Even more telling was the conversation Trump had tonight with Fox News Channel personality Sean Hannity. After repeating his usual attacks on Biden, saying he was old and declining mentally, Trump said "And he is going to be president because some people don't love me, maybe. And all I'm doing is doing my job."
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When pressed about masks and indoor rallies sans any restrictions or requirements, Pence kept bloviating about "freedom of speech and to peaceably assemble" being "enshrined in the Constitution." "Enshrined" does not mean "hermetically sealed." Every "right" is subject to some restriction. Let's take that First Amendment, shall we? Speech? There is no Constitutional right to yell "fire" in a crowded theater, incite to riot, make death threats, nor to commit defamation by libel or slander. Assembly? States and localities have the right under the 10th Amendment to require permits for rallies, parades, demonstrations, even block parties & picnics. Requiring a mask infringes on NO Constitutional right. Any theoretical "right" not to be temporarily discomfited & inconvenienced does not include the right to endanger others' health and lives. But Trump's puppet dares not piss off his boss by admitting that--even though a VP cannot be fired, only not re-chosen as a running mate. (And even if Trump replaces him on the ticket, Pence still remains VP until Inauguration Day). Birx can be fired, so she tiptoes around the questions so as not to contradict her boss. Redfield is a bit more pessimistic and realistic than he was several weeks ago, but Trump can fire him (and dissolve the CDC by a single scrawl of his Sharpie).
Bless Dr. Fauci--he can't be fired, just kicked off the Task Force podium. The National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and NIH, are independent. He's the only one telling the truth and the whole truth...and no rosy bullshit spin.
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The air kiss. "Sean Trump"
Brilliant!
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Ruth
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Hmmm, interesting that Chris Hayes is on and in an earlier segment had a section where he talked about why it was time to go and what would it take to get Reps. on board with that. I fear too many may never be, but most of the few programs I've watched today have had somewhat similar ideas coming up -- like Morning Joe. Then Grassley talking about Trump and Co. ( begging for it really ) needing an intervention on Trump and making he and his group read how bad they look in the WSJ editorial that basically states the current trajectory of Trumps means the game is over for he and the Reps. Senate along with the House.
Either this 'vein' hangs around for awhile or goes right back up on the shelf. Just interesting to me.
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For all the good it will do but yes -- at least he was told.
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I think the statue is the one that Jr. should erect of his Dad since he recommended that all the monuments being removed should be replaced with statues of his Dad. Could we afford the metal? Would be great if he were wearing a Burger King Crown and holing a golf club as a scepter. Can we make the tie red?
Love the memes today. I can just see his presidential library. Buried somewhere in Fl his new "home" state, full of books written by his niece and the Art of Her Deal or golf manuals. They would all have to be easy to read since it seems he doesn't like to read, can't articulately speak English and has the attention span of a gnat. Don't know too many scholars who would want to peruse it.
Did he always sign documents with a sharpie? Doesn't matter because his signature is illegible anyhow.
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i would pur rumps statue in the dog park for dogs to shit on.
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