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I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

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  • mavericksmom
    mavericksmom Member Posts: 1,150
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    Now Trump is selling a book he neither authored nor knows anything about it's content, you know it as the Bible!

    Just when you think you heard it all………you didn't!

    Jackie, it was ALL the big names on MSNBC who caused the firing of Ronna McDaniel, not just those you mentioned. Cesar Conde apologized for hiring her in the first place, which was the right thing to do, but pretty clear he hired her to protect the network from total wrath of Trump should he get elected.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 34,376
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    Look to this day!
    For it is life, the very life of life.
    In its brief course
    Lie all the truths and realities of your existence:
    The bliss of growth
    The glory of action
    The splendor of achievement,
    For yesterday is but a dream
    And tomorrow is only a vision,
    But today well lived makes every yesterday 
    a dream of happiness
    And tomorrow a vision of hope.
    Look well, therefore, to this day!
    Such is the salutation of the dawn.

    from the Sanskrit

  • illinoislady
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    Well, color me amazed. Just when I thought the evil snake couldn't get any lower, he holds up a made-up Bible. Apparently collaborating with Lee Greenwood,? to do some more of his heavy-duty grifting. I certainly would not think he would get a lot of takers, but who knows. He has been a 'barker' for so much and now he's to the point I'm sputtering.

    He looked rather un-kempt in the commercial and indeed looked foolish and a bit insane to me, but then his prior 'attributes' like cavorting with Stormy Daniels right after his last son is born and many events such as that just make him completely cringe-worthy rather than anything else.

    As I mentioned on a Facebook post, I was waiting for a lightning bolt since he was so blasphemous.

    Yes, in the end the big names at NBC did away with McDaniels. I don't think it would have happened though if the people who 'carry' the program with high ratings had not spoken up and doing it while on air was even more pointed.

    I do think many ( media executives, judges, court helpers, politicians, families of the before mentioned people and businesses at large) need cover from Trump. He is just way too good at inciting others in dangerous behaviors. However, and whomever dealt with McDaniels it was the right thing. She changed her acceptance and help of the BIG LIE so she could get a job and karma came knocking. Pretty quickly.

    I still believe that even if closer than we like there is a good chance we will this time out have all three branches on our side of the scale. I do really think the Loon will be so un-viable by election time that the Reps. might just stay home and others will not vote for the Loon. Many have already said so. My concern still likes more with the down ballot people on the Reps. ticket. Not at all saying that there doesn't need to be plenty of work to make good things happen for the Democrats, but many times I don't sink into the media narratives that would have me believe that the Loon and or Reps. party is stronger than it is. The whole party is in a huge chaotic nearly rudderless mess and Trump rapidly losing any mental ability to participate.

    I got a real surprise in 2016 though which left a deep imprint. When someone like Trump is around nothing can be taken for granted.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 34,376
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    Addicting Info:

    If he’s actually innocent, STOP delaying his trials, prove his innocence, and we can finally move on. But I’m still waiting…

    Isn't that the truth. Even the Loon wants everything stalled. He's convinced he's innocent. Perhaps he's bad-mouthed us so long and made so many accusations that he is now sure that he'd be rail-roaded. Well no, all you need to do is tell the truth - you do recall the TRUTH will set you free. If you are indeed telling the truth.

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 34,376
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    A low-life in the Loon that just got amazingly lower. Have to wonder if any of my bil's will fork over for that Bible.

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 34,376
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    This man (Graham) and the many like him I've long felt are just like the Loon. They are better cloaked perhaps, but that's the only difference.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 34,376
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    Proving once again he is good at wool distribution.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 34,376
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    Utter truth.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 46,992
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    Well, if he is saying that we should follow the Bible literally; the Old Testament does say that adulterers should be stoned……

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 34,376
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    Love this answer to Fox (spread the lies) faux news.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 34,376
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    Ah, birds of a feather and all that. Just as dicey as his in-laws.

  • illinoislady
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    Bravery late in coming, but I guess better late than never.

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  • illinoislady
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    Save for those who were smart enough to fun away already.

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  • illinoislady
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    "Stable" smarts on parade.

  • illinoislady
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    Hmmm infrastructure — where did I hear that word before. This needs to be on front pages everywhere.

  • illinoislady
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    The orange calvary is not going to help you.

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  • betrayal
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    As far as Franklin Graham, I am sure his father is doing flipflops in his grave seeing what he has raised become such a weenie. Double standard for the Democrats (Clinton) versus the Repugnicans (Trump) as far as moral codes and ethics.

    Once they finish with Hunter Biden and now that the claims against Biden have been disproven, it is time to bring up the deal that Jared made with the Saudi's that went into effect 6 months after he left the WH. He's another grifter. Just like the Trump's entry into U of PA and Jared's into Harvard was the result of greased palms, I am sure none of them made the dean's list based on their own merit. Does Don, Jr. strike you as an intellectual?

    The sad fact about the collapse of the Keys bridge is the death of 2 known Hispanic immigrants and so far the nationality of the other missing is unknown. Anyone who thinks we can run this country without the contributions of immigrants needs to get a grip and remember that unless they are Native Americans, we are all descendants of immigrants. My experience with Hispanic immigrants to date has been they are hardworking, not looking for a handout but a chance to earn a decent living for their families and themselves, they are willing to take jobs that no American is willing to take (so no, they are not stealing jobs) and I have found that they have been discriminated against when working for others. The guys who installed our walkway talked about how other homeowners would not even provide ice water on very hot days. I leave bottled water for the guys who cut our lawn and they always make sure to thank me. They provide a valued service and need to be seen for what they contribute, not taken for granted. So the immigration process does need to be revised. Any takers for picking strawberries, apples, oranges, or other produce we consume? It is hot, dirty work but vital for out food chain.

  • illinoislady
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    LEGAL

    John Eastman, architect of Trump’s 2020 election plot, should be disbarred, judge rules

    “The most severe available professional sanction is warranted to protect the public,” Judge Yvette Roland wrote.

    Though John Eastman may appeal Judge Yvette Roland’s decision, the ruling forces his law license into “inactive” status while any review is pending. | Jae C. Hong/AP

    By KYLE CHENEY

    03/27/2024 07:22 PM EDT

    Updated: 03/27/2024 09:20 PM EDT

    A California judge on Wednesday recommended the disbarment of John Eastman, calling to revoke the law license of one of former President Donald Trump’s top allies in his failed last-ditch gambit to subvert the 2020 election.

    Judge Yvette Roland, who presided over months of testimony and argument about the basis of Eastman’s fringe legal theories, ruled that the veteran conservative attorney violated ethics rules — and even potentially criminal law — when he advanced Trump’s efforts to overturn the election results based on weak or discredited claims of fraud.

    Eastman plans to appeal Roland’s decision to a panel of judges, an interim step before the matter reaches the state Supreme Court. But while his appeal is pending, the ruling forces his law license into “inactive” status, meaning he can no longer practice law in California.

    “Given the serious and extensive nature of Eastman’s unethical actions, the most severe available professional sanction is warranted to protect the public and preserve the public confidence in the legal system,” Roland ruled.

    Roland’s 128-page opinion was a lacerating rebuke of Eastman’s conduct and his subsequent lack of remorse. She concluded that he made knowingly flimsy claims of fraud and irregularities in legal filings on Trump’s behalf, including his brief for Trump in a Supreme Court fight.

    The judge walked through Eastman’s extensive involvement in Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election results, from his early lawsuits that failed to gain traction to his bid to solicit GOP state legislatures to send “alternate” electors to Congress, a last-gasp bid to keep Trump in power. At every turn, Roland said, Eastman ignored evidence that was unfavorable to his case and accepted at face value claims of fraud or misconduct aimed at sowing doubt about the election results.

    “He turned a blind eye to any information that would not support his position of election fraud,” Roland wrote.

    In all, Roland found Eastman culpable for 10 of 11 charges that state bar investigators brought against him, including misleading courts, lack of candor and, most notably, plotting with Trump to derail the transfer of power.

    “Eastman conspired with President Trump to obstruct a lawful function of the government of the United States; specifically, by conspiring to disrupt the electoral count on January 6, 2021,” Roland ruled.

    Eastman’s attorney, Randall Miller, said Eastman still believes his work on Trump’s behalf in 2020 “was based on reliable legal precedent, prior presidential elections, research of constitutional text, and extensive scholarly material.” He also noted that Eastman is facing criminal charges in Georgia and has now lost the ability to finance his defense with his work as an attorney.

    “Any reasonable person can see the inherent unfairness of prohibiting a presumed-innocent defendant from being able to earn the funds needed to pay for the enormous expenses required to defend himself, in the profession in which he has long been licensed,” Miller said. “That is not justice and serves no legitimate purpose to protect the public.”

    Roland found, in contrast, that the state bar investigators had failed to convincingly show that Eastman’s remarks to a Jan. 6 rally — which preceded the violent assault on the Capitol — played a role in ginning up the subsequent attack.

    Roland said her disbarment recommendation was in part based on Eastman’s refusal to express regret and his attacks on the proceedings against him as politically motivated.

    “Eastman has exhibited an unwillingness to acknowledge any ethical lapses regarding his actions, demonstrating an apparent inability to accept responsibility,” she wrote. “This lack of remorse and accountability presents a significant risk that Eastman may engage in further unethical conduct, compounding the threat to the public.”

    Eastman testified for hours during his disbarment trial, claiming that he relied on a cadre of statisticians and data analysts to conclude that the 2020 election was rife with misconduct and that state legislatures in a handful of swing states should step in to replace Joe Biden’s electors with Trump’s. But Roland said those analysts’ claims were easily refuted by expert testimony, and Eastman should have known better than to rely on them.

    In addition, Roland concluded that Eastman stretched and contorted even his own outlier theories to pressure then-Vice President Mike Pence to single-handedly block Joe Biden’s victory, even when no state legislatures had signed onto the effort.

    Eastman’s pending disbarment compounds the legal trouble he’s facing in other states. He’s been charged alongside Trump and other allies in Fulton County, Georgia, as a member of an alleged racketeering conspiracy aimed at corrupting the results of the 2020 election in the state. He was also identified, but not named, in Trump’s federal indictment in Washington, D.C., as one of six unindicted co-conspirators assisting Trump’s bid to seize a second term.

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    Eastman’s trial, which spanned portions of six months last year, was the most exacting test of the legal theories he employed that nearly upended the transfer of presidential power for the first time in American history. Witnesses for the state bar discipline authorities included top election officials in several states challenged by Trump, constitutional law expert Matthew Seligman and even Eastman himself.

    Eastman first came into Trump’s orbit in September 2020, when Trump tasked another lawyer, Cleta Mitchell, to put together a team of election lawyers to prepare for post-election challenges. In early November 2020, Mitchell encouraged Eastman to craft a legal argument in favor of state legislatures overturning election results.

    By early December, Eastman had been engaged by the Trump campaign to represent Trump in ongoing legal challenges to the election results in Georgia and at the Supreme Court.

    As Trump’s legal challenges faltered, Eastman turned his focus to the Jan. 6, 2021, session of Congress, when the House and Senate were required to meet — in a session overseen by Pence. Eastman drafted memos describing “scenarios” in which Pence asserted the unilateral authority to refuse to count some of Biden’s presidential electors, forcing a delay in the election and giving more time for state legislatures to consider reversing Trump’s defeat.

    Pence, however, refused to adopt Eastman’s theory, saying it would be illegal and unconstitutional, and ultimately upheld the certified election results in all 50 states, ensuring Biden’s victory. Eastman famously argued with Pence’s legal counsel, Greg Jacob, by email, encouraging Pence to reconsider his position, even as rioters attacked the Capitol and forced Pence and Congress into hiding.

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