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Posted on: Apr 8, 2011 10:45AM - edited Apr 2, 2018 01:30PM by sas-schatzi

sas-schatzi wrote:

Welcome. This is called the insomnia thread, but we post 24/7/365. We call ourselves Owlettes :)

No nastiness, bullying, stalking or such allowed. I would like to keep the kind fabric of this thread intact.

Discussion will flow where it will as all threads do. This will be a happy place. I hope with lots of laughing. Talk of things, needs, rants as your mood or thoughts take you. Each person here has a history of helping others. Threads develop pseudo family groups. Fancy way to say we become like family. This family will have all the best a family has to offer, but none of the negatives.

May help with sleeplessness: circadian rhythm, melatonin--pub med evidence based research. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21476953 Agometaline is approved for use in Europe/Australia for insomnia. It is NOT approved in the USA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agomelatine

How to naturally reset circadian rhythm with food : http://www.wisebread.com/how-to-naturally-reset-your-sleep-cycle-overnight

Article connecting insomnia and depression. It's a chicken egg thing-..............-insomnia <-----> depression.

http://blog.aarp.org/2013/12/02/is-curing-insomnia-key-to-curing-depression/?intcmp=AE-ENDART1-BL-REL

Second Sleep---The NORMAL for humans before the light bulb http://slumberwise.com/science/your-ancestors-didnt-sleep-like-you/

Autonomic dysfunction: http://www.holistichelp.net/dysautonomia-autonomic-nervous-system-dysfunction.html

BCO Member Notself's three day plan: 1. Get doc script for sleep aid, at lowest dose. 2. Set sleep time. 3. Take pill 1/2 hr to 1 hr before set time. 4. Do this for three days; 5. Should sleep on fourth night.. 6. Repeat steps 1-5 if sleeplessness has lasted more than one night.

Don'ts that are known to cause sleeplessness: Alcohol, coffee, chocolate, looking at computer screens before bedtime, sex and exersize(variable by person); Do's that promote sleep: Sex and exersize(variable by person) , book reading, foot massage, aromatherapy, sleepy teas. After dinner walk(variable).

Link to Warm & Fuzzy's (W&F) thread: Warm & fuzzy owls, goats, kitties, dogs, birds ETC. PICS &LINKS

For all our dear Sisters .........

Image result for prayer for protection friend

Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out shouting "holy crap....what a ride".
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Jan 14, 2019 02:25AM MCBaker wrote:

I did a bit of housecleaning yesterday. It tired me out so much that I went to bed at 6:30 PM. I think I will go back to bed so I can have enough energy to do some more. A messy house can be depressing. I am on the list to get some volunteer housecleaning help, maybe once a month, but for now I can keep it just above the depressing level. Then I have a quilt-binding to finish for the club meeting on Wednesday.

Mary Dx 10/3/2018, DCIS, Right, 6cm+, Stage 0, Grade 3, ER-/PR- Dx 11/16/2018, IDC, Right, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/5 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ (IHC) Surgery 11/16/2018 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Targeted Therapy 12/19/2018 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Chemotherapy 12/19/2018 Taxol (paclitaxel) Surgery 6/28/2019 Reconstruction (right): Fat grafting, Saline implant
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Jan 14, 2019 05:22AM queenmomcat wrote:

FeelingFeline: yes, that scene. So tease me as a Grinch already. (Yes, I was crying. And I noticed more than a few sniffles and gulps around me.)

Dx 5/27/2015, DCIS, Left, 1cm, Stage 0, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 7/7/2015 Lumpectomy: Left Radiation Therapy 9/1/2015 Whole-breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 11/1/2015 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Surgery 12/10/2015 Reconstruction (left)
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Jan 17, 2019 06:46PM CeliaC wrote:

Anyone remember the scene in Moonstruck, where Cher's eyes are overflowing with tears while watching La Boheme at the Met? It is my favorite opera!

Dx 12/2/2016, DCIS/IDC, Left, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 12/21/2016 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Radiation Therapy 2/21/2017 Whole-breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 4/5/2017 Arimidex (anastrozole)
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Jan 18, 2019 06:59AM feelingfeline wrote:

Yup! Nerdy

Dx 1/20/2012, IDC, 5cm, Stage IIIA, 3/22 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- Surgery 2/8/2012 Lymph node removal: Left, Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Left Chemotherapy 4/3/2012 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Hormonal Therapy 7/31/2012 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Radiation Therapy 8/6/2012 Breast, Lymph nodes Hormonal Therapy 8/1/2015 Aromasin (exemestane)
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Jan 18, 2019 09:01AM M0mmyof2 wrote:

Preparing to get slapped hard with that winter storm coming east. Watching the news to see if anything has changed.


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Jan 23, 2019 03:57PM JWoo wrote:

Hope everyone is staying warm!


hootiehooo

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Jan 23, 2019 09:48PM Smaarty wrote:

hi all, I forgot that I posted while waiting at Honolulu. So...... we got delayed 2 hours. Got into Sydney about 9;30, 1 am Hawaii time. We had fun, dh spent 3 days with a friend In Brisbane but came back with a cold, which he gave to our son. I got a tooth infection while we were there. I now have a dentist in Australia! I got bit by something almost every night while there. Mosquitoes or something. Don’t think it was ever spiders. Always had to check for them ever night when going to bed. Only had 2 this time.

So went to a new dentist today (mine is on vacation for 3 weeks). I need a root canal on the bad tooth. So that will happen the end of the month.

Anybody know if Sas is a grandma now

Dx 4/29/2013, DCIS, <1cm, Stage 0, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+ Surgery 5/31/2013 Lymph node removal: Left, Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left; Prophylactic mastectomy: Right Surgery 10/28/2013 Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Surgery 2/3/2014 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Surgery 12/5/2014 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Surgery 1/24/2017
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Jan 24, 2019 01:13AM feelingfeline wrote:

OOOH Smaarty, spiders and root canals ShockedShockedShocked

Nice to see you back NerdyNerdyNerdy XXX

Dx 1/20/2012, IDC, 5cm, Stage IIIA, 3/22 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- Surgery 2/8/2012 Lymph node removal: Left, Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Left Chemotherapy 4/3/2012 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Hormonal Therapy 7/31/2012 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Radiation Therapy 8/6/2012 Breast, Lymph nodes Hormonal Therapy 8/1/2015 Aromasin (exemestane)
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Jan 28, 2019 10:39AM M0mmyof2 wrote:

Well all the snow and ice we got from that winter storm is gone.


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Feb 23, 2019 10:03AM Beatmon wrote:

Logged on today and see no entries for 3 weeks. Is everyone tired of how bc.org is going these days or what? Too sad we’ve lost too many of our ladies keeping us away?

I’m pretty much a mixture of both of the above. It saddens me because this has always been so helpful

Dx 7/27/2012, IDC, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Surgery 8/9/2012 Lymph node removal: Left, Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right Surgery 12/1/2013 Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Surgery 7/1/2014 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Dx 8/9/2014, IDC, Both breasts, Stage IV, metastasized to lungs, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Targeted Therapy 8/27/2014 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Targeted Therapy 8/27/2014 Perjeta (pertuzumab) Chemotherapy 8/27/2014 Taxotere (docetaxel)
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Feb 23, 2019 05:39PM karen1956 wrote:

Beatmom - I read this thread on occasion, but don't post. Thee is one thread that I am active on, but I will always come visit co. Stay well.

Karen in Denver, Dx 02/03/2006, ILC, stage IIIa, ER/PR+, HER2-,
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Feb 23, 2019 06:33PM Loveroflife wrote:

Beatmon, for me it's also a mixture of both.

My grace is sufficient for you, My strength is made perfect in weakness. 2 Cor 12:9. Dx 8/25/2014, DCIS, 3cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR- Surgery 9/16/2014 Mastectomy: Left Dx 10/13/2014, IDC, <1cm, Stage IA, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Surgery 1/12/2015 Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement Surgery 5/13/2015 Reconstruction (left): Saline implant
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Feb 23, 2019 07:24PM Wren44 wrote:

I'm mostly on the older woman thread.

Lumpectomy and re-excision followed by mastectomy of right breast. Five years of anastrasole completed.
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Feb 26, 2019 02:22AM mostlymom wrote:

I always check-in but I don't post often.

tread gently.... Mammo & Ultrasound, 2-8-11. Needle Core Biopsy, 2-17-11. Lumpectomy 3-16-11. Completed 25 rads & 8 boosts Aug 5, 2011. Complete hysterectomy July 15, 2013. Dx 2/23/2011, IDC, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Feb 26, 2019 11:09AM edwards750 wrote:

I’m like Wren mostly on the radiation and older women threads but the fact is a lot of my BC sisterson those threads don’t post as often either.

Diane

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Feb 26, 2019 02:32PM M0mmyof2 wrote:

I took a self imposed vacation from here for a bit. Needed to recharge.

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Mar 9, 2019 02:22AM - edited Mar 9, 2019 02:22AM by Loveroflife


It's 2 am and I can't seem to control these guys.




My grace is sufficient for you, My strength is made perfect in weakness. 2 Cor 12:9. Dx 8/25/2014, DCIS, 3cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR- Surgery 9/16/2014 Mastectomy: Left Dx 10/13/2014, IDC, <1cm, Stage IA, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Surgery 1/12/2015 Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement Surgery 5/13/2015 Reconstruction (left): Saline implant
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Mar 9, 2019 02:34AM - edited Mar 9, 2019 03:10AM by Loveroflife

Last time I was this wide awake before the birds and roosters was when I had jet lag. Not right. I need to be up in 4 hours to take DD2 to swim practice. Pfft.Maybe I should try to count DH's respiratory rate instead Loopy

My grace is sufficient for you, My strength is made perfect in weakness. 2 Cor 12:9. Dx 8/25/2014, DCIS, 3cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR- Surgery 9/16/2014 Mastectomy: Left Dx 10/13/2014, IDC, <1cm, Stage IA, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Surgery 1/12/2015 Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement Surgery 5/13/2015 Reconstruction (left): Saline implant
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Mar 9, 2019 02:25PM feelingfeline wrote:

Heart

Dx 1/20/2012, IDC, 5cm, Stage IIIA, 3/22 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- Surgery 2/8/2012 Lymph node removal: Left, Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Left Chemotherapy 4/3/2012 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Hormonal Therapy 7/31/2012 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Radiation Therapy 8/6/2012 Breast, Lymph nodes Hormonal Therapy 8/1/2015 Aromasin (exemestane)
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Mar 10, 2019 02:34PM Loveroflife wrote:

My grace is sufficient for you, My strength is made perfect in weakness. 2 Cor 12:9. Dx 8/25/2014, DCIS, 3cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR- Surgery 9/16/2014 Mastectomy: Left Dx 10/13/2014, IDC, <1cm, Stage IA, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Surgery 1/12/2015 Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement Surgery 5/13/2015 Reconstruction (left): Saline implant
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Mar 10, 2019 02:40PM Loveroflife wrote:

My grace is sufficient for you, My strength is made perfect in weakness. 2 Cor 12:9. Dx 8/25/2014, DCIS, 3cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR- Surgery 9/16/2014 Mastectomy: Left Dx 10/13/2014, IDC, <1cm, Stage IA, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Surgery 1/12/2015 Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement Surgery 5/13/2015 Reconstruction (left): Saline implant
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Mar 10, 2019 03:05PM feelingfeline wrote:

ThumbsUp

Dx 1/20/2012, IDC, 5cm, Stage IIIA, 3/22 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- Surgery 2/8/2012 Lymph node removal: Left, Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Left Chemotherapy 4/3/2012 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Hormonal Therapy 7/31/2012 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Radiation Therapy 8/6/2012 Breast, Lymph nodes Hormonal Therapy 8/1/2015 Aromasin (exemestane)
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Mar 12, 2019 08:49PM Beatmon wrote:

I’m up so many times during the night. Insomnia is an unwelcome guest. I take a sleeper, bendaryl, sometimes need the gabapentin.some nights I’m able to go to sleep, wake up multiple times.

The worst is awake until 330:or after 430 and finally fall asleep. Still until 530 when hubs gets up. He lives for work, the dogs sleep for 15 minutes or up to an an hour. I am e haustec.

So much question, is anyone still awake and posting in the old days.?

Dx 7/27/2012, IDC, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Surgery 8/9/2012 Lymph node removal: Left, Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right Surgery 12/1/2013 Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Surgery 7/1/2014 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Dx 8/9/2014, IDC, Both breasts, Stage IV, metastasized to lungs, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Targeted Therapy 8/27/2014 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Targeted Therapy 8/27/2014 Perjeta (pertuzumab) Chemotherapy 8/27/2014 Taxotere (docetaxel)
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Mar 12, 2019 09:37PM Loveroflife wrote:

My grace is sufficient for you, My strength is made perfect in weakness. 2 Cor 12:9. Dx 8/25/2014, DCIS, 3cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR- Surgery 9/16/2014 Mastectomy: Left Dx 10/13/2014, IDC, <1cm, Stage IA, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Surgery 1/12/2015 Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement Surgery 5/13/2015 Reconstruction (left): Saline implant
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Mar 13, 2019 10:02AM Wren44 wrote:

Beatmon, I take trazodone to help me sleep. It's an old anti-depressant that doesn't do much for depression, but a low dose helps me get to sleep and stay asleep.

Lumpectomy and re-excision followed by mastectomy of right breast. Five years of anastrasole completed.
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Mar 13, 2019 03:35PM JWoo wrote:

After several trials of several other meds, herbs, and spell casting, my dr finally rx'd amatryptaline in low dose to allow me to sleep. It doesn't put me to sleep, but i get to stay asleep (mostly) now, and actually complete at least one sleep cycle a night. I average about 6 hours of good sleep now, compared to the 1-3 hours of just having closed eyes that I was living on for so long. It's changed my life.


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Mar 13, 2019 04:40PM queenmomcat wrote:

Wren44: I'm on trazodone too--it helps me a bit with the night %#^*$!!!s in addition to waking partway through the night. (Not for everyone! Find what works for you.) This has always struck me as a variant on using Benadryl (diphenhydramine) as a gentle sleeping aid: re-marketing a drug initially developed for issue A as a solution for issue B, which is addressed by a common side effect of said drug.

Dx 5/27/2015, DCIS, Left, 1cm, Stage 0, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 7/7/2015 Lumpectomy: Left Radiation Therapy 9/1/2015 Whole-breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 11/1/2015 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Surgery 12/10/2015 Reconstruction (left)
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Mar 14, 2019 06:05PM Beatmon wrote:

Wren, I tried Trazadone and thought it was a miracle. Then very weird side effect: my sinus got swollen and couldn’t breathe through my nose at all. Stopped it for a few days and restarted and Bam! All stopped up again.

I’m in a medical marijuana state...two indica gummies don’t put me out or keep me out. I just wished I could get some good rest

Dx 7/27/2012, IDC, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Surgery 8/9/2012 Lymph node removal: Left, Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right Surgery 12/1/2013 Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Surgery 7/1/2014 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Dx 8/9/2014, IDC, Both breasts, Stage IV, metastasized to lungs, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Targeted Therapy 8/27/2014 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Targeted Therapy 8/27/2014 Perjeta (pertuzumab) Chemotherapy 8/27/2014 Taxotere (docetaxel)
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Mar 14, 2019 07:22PM Wren44 wrote:

I'm sorry. It's awful when you can't sleep. I have some nights where I sleep 2-3 hours, get up to go to the bathroom, and then take 2 hours to get back to sleep. It's not constant, thank God. No rest really messes with your mind.

Lumpectomy and re-excision followed by mastectomy of right breast. Five years of anastrasole completed.
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Mar 15, 2019 08:35AM - edited Mar 15, 2019 09:02AM by Loveroflife

I am happy to see some members of the Insomnia Swat Team dropped in. I am sorry I can't offer much as I rarely suffer from insomnia. Don't ask me how I ended up here. Never mind. I will tell you anyway. It was when the Ying and the Yang in me was not in a balance. I was getting up in the middle of the night and couldn't fall back to sleep because of post-op pain and worried about the JP drains getting caught in between the cracks of my recliner. Things get thrown out of whack when the body is disturbed, whether it's physically, mentally, or emotionally. Wish you can find a sleep aid that works for you.....One that helps you fall asleep and stay asleep. Heart

My grace is sufficient for you, My strength is made perfect in weakness. 2 Cor 12:9. Dx 8/25/2014, DCIS, 3cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR- Surgery 9/16/2014 Mastectomy: Left Dx 10/13/2014, IDC, <1cm, Stage IA, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Surgery 1/12/2015 Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement Surgery 5/13/2015 Reconstruction (left): Saline implant

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