Topic: INSOMNIACS place to talk in the wee hours

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Posted on: Apr 8, 2011 01:45PM - edited Apr 2, 2018 04:30PM by sas-schatzi

Posted on: Apr 8, 2011 01:45PM - edited Apr 2, 2018 04:30PM by sas-schatzi

sas-schatzi wrote:

Welcome. This is called the insomnia thread, but we post 24/7/365. We call ourselves Owlettes :)

No nastiness, bullying, stalking or such allowed. I would like to keep the kind fabric of this thread intact.

Discussion will flow where it will as all threads do. This will be a happy place. I hope with lots of laughing. Talk of things, needs, rants as your mood or thoughts take you. Each person here has a history of helping others. Threads develop pseudo family groups. Fancy way to say we become like family. This family will have all the best a family has to offer, but none of the negatives.

May help with sleeplessness: circadian rhythm, melatonin--pub med evidence based research. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21476953 Agometaline is approved for use in Europe/Australia for insomnia. It is NOT approved in the USA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agomelatine

How to naturally reset circadian rhythm with food : http://www.wisebread.com/how-to-naturally-reset-your-sleep-cycle-overnight

Article connecting insomnia and depression. It's a chicken egg thing-..............-insomnia <-----> depression.

http://blog.aarp.org/2013/12/02/is-curing-insomnia-key-to-curing-depression/?intcmp=AE-ENDART1-BL-REL

Second Sleep---The NORMAL for humans before the light bulb http://slumberwise.com/science/your-ancestors-didnt-sleep-like-you/

Autonomic dysfunction: http://www.holistichelp.net/dysautonomia-autonomic-nervous-system-dysfunction.html

BCO Member Notself's three day plan: 1. Get doc script for sleep aid, at lowest dose. 2. Set sleep time. 3. Take pill 1/2 hr to 1 hr before set time. 4. Do this for three days; 5. Should sleep on fourth night.. 6. Repeat steps 1-5 if sleeplessness has lasted more than one night.

Don'ts that are known to cause sleeplessness: Alcohol, coffee, chocolate, looking at computer screens before bedtime, sex and exersize(variable by person); Do's that promote sleep: Sex and exersize(variable by person) , book reading, foot massage, aromatherapy, sleepy teas. After dinner walk(variable).

Link to Warm & Fuzzy's (W&F) thread: Warm & fuzzy owls, goats, kitties, dogs, birds ETC. PICS &LINKS

For all our dear Sisters .........

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Apr 9, 2011 12:25AM sas-schatzi wrote:

Jo are you to premenopausal. Can't take AI's yet?

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Apr 9, 2011 12:26AM - edited Jun 20, 2011 01:38PM by sas-schatzi

12:26 Anne

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Apr 9, 2011 12:28AM sas-schatzi wrote:

Well thats the point here . You're still going with no one to talk to. Could be a godsend for us never know. I'm just tired of mindnumbing tv.

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Apr 9, 2011 12:29AM jo1955 wrote:

SAS - I am post menopausal and tried both Arimidex and Femara.  SEs were too bad - unbelieveable nausea and some disorientation with Femara.  Had to go on Tamox.  

Jo - Lump, no chemo, 25 rads + 5 boosts, Tamox X5 years . cancerr free since Aug 30th, 2010. April 2014 - Latissimus Dorsi Flap Reconstruction. July 13, 2013 - Hysterectomy due to multiple uterine issues while on Tamoxifen.
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Apr 9, 2011 12:31AM - edited Jun 20, 2011 01:39PM by sas-schatzi

I would just like to suggest we spread the word to other threads that to check here late at night to see if anythings going on when they feel the need. We'll get it going . AND time will tell.

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Apr 9, 2011 12:33AM - edited Jun 20, 2011 01:39PM by sas-schatzi

WEll we are off to a good start we are already on pg2. Anne hope the cough is better

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Apr 9, 2011 12:34AM jo1955 wrote:

I can help you do that.  I know a few night owls.

Jo - Lump, no chemo, 25 rads + 5 boosts, Tamox X5 years . cancerr free since Aug 30th, 2010. April 2014 - Latissimus Dorsi Flap Reconstruction. July 13, 2013 - Hysterectomy due to multiple uterine issues while on Tamoxifen.
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Apr 9, 2011 12:38AM - edited Jun 20, 2011 01:39PM by sas-schatzi

yes I shouldC&P my chicken talk

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Apr 9, 2011 12:40AM tinkertude wrote:

ok I would love to join this thread too... thought I was going to bed but ummm noooo.. Hi Jo HI Sas!

Dx 6/2/2010, ILC, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 1/14 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 6/2/2010, IDC, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/14 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 9, 2011 12:41AM Valgal wrote:

Hi Jo and Sas and all the other night owls!

I'm not going to be up late tonight cuz I went to the Dr. today and I think I could actually go  to sleep tonight. Did anyone read my story about melatonin. I posted it somewhere...pretty funny..I was dating an off the boat Irish guy who had trouble sleeping so I bought a book about melatonin -Of course he wouldn't read it so I did . He asked me what it said the next day and I told him I couldn't remember cuz I fell asleep ... so he said... well just give me the book then. LOL

Hey Jo! I'm postmeno and on tami too. I never started arimidex. I'm glad now too... since my 2nd brother of 58 years old died from heart problems in December.

Dx 7/2/2010, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-

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