Dancing with the Stars
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Maybe if the judges' scores weren't so inflated, Brandy would still be there. Bristol's combined score was 53, which was 93% of Brandy's 57. Was Bristol 93% as good as Brandy? Was she even 50% as good? I don't think so.
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Those of you who voted for Sarah Palin's daughter because you believed she has improved so much certainly have the right to say so here and vote for her. I believe though, there would not be enough of your votes to put her in the final three. We are outraged because a show that was apolitical and a joy for many of us has been turned into an election. Certain websites have the phone number on their home page to vote for Sarah's daughter. Honestly, I would not be surprised to hear that there are robocalling phone banks sending in these votes. I am convinced that more than half of the votes for Sarah's daughter came from people who did not even watch the show.
I think what would be fair would be if they changed the phone numbers live on the air next week. That way, Kyle and Jennifer would have some sort of a chance, other wise, Sarah's daughter will win. As ever, JMHO
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No need to feel like your expectations of me have been lowered. I'm not a child and I'm entitled to my opinion.
I feel that Bristol is young and very ego centered at this stage of her life. I'm sure as she gets older, she will mature. I think she is a very beautiful young woman who comes from a strong and supportive family. I also was a single mother at the same age she is now. It's a difficult road and kudos to her for doing the best she can to support herself and her child.
I just don't think she's a good enough dancer to be in the final three.
OT .. I was just home in San Diego a couple of weeks ago visiting the grands! Sure do miss my hometown and the fabulous weather!
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Bristol Palin is by far the most improved dancer this season. There is plenty of precedent in earlier seasons of performers who struggled early on to make it to the finals, and even to win. Do you remember the first season? The runner up was so incensed that he didn't win that they staged a post finale' dance-off.
Brandy arrived at the show a good dancer, and while she has improved over the course of the season, Maks didn't choreograph the difficulty into their routines to adequately showcase her skills. Brandy's fan base is not the demographic of DWTS, and Maks' tantrum a couple of weeks ago left a bad taste with some viewers.
Remember, these are partners, and after so many seasons, some of the professional dancers are better known than some of the "stars".
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Patmom .. I agree with you about Maks.
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I am just a casual fan of the show, so really don't know the answer to this question: are people supposed to vote for whom they think is the 'best dancer' or for whom they think is the 'most improved dancer'?
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My irritation at the fact that Bristol made the finals and Brandy didn't has nothing to do with my personal feelings about who she is. It was "how" I and many, many other viewers think she got those votes which is causing all the raucaus. If she got her votes fairly, no one would be concerned but the internet is packed with people who all seem to agree. She wasn't the best dancer but she had an unfair advantage going in with all the people who, I feel and many others, were set up to pour in votes for her no matter how she danced. It is almost a sure thing now that those same people and MORE will be ready to revote to get her that trophy. It makes the entire show a farce, IMO. It is not supposed to be a popularity contest or one of which dancer learns the most but WHO in the finale is the BEST dancer of all of them. The poster is also wrong, IMO, about Jennifer. Anyone can jump around in a drink commercial but she says she was never a trained dancer to do the kind of dances they have to do in that show. She also did them after great injuries to her body. She now IS a great dancer and deserves to win that trophy but she and Derek may as well find a Dr. Pepper commercial to dance on. Palin has probably already got her votes set to pour in. I won't waste my time seeing the disappointment on the faces of the ones who should win it. I'll watch something else.
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Has anyone ever wondered on the timing of all this? I think this has all been a big publicity plot for the Pailins. There is no coincidence Bristol (who is not a star) makes it to this show during elections and when Sarah's reality show premiers. DWTS ratings are probably booming now but I think this will have some negative consequences on the show. Loyal fans (like me) are really turned off by all the antics this season. They have cheapen the show!
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To answer ruthbru's question, the idea is to vote for the people you want to see stay on the show. That might be the best dancer, or the one who is improving, or the one who you find entertaining, or the one that you just like the best. People can vote as many times as there are contestants left, so this week anyone who called in, or voted online could vote 4 times. They could split their votes, or vote for the same couple 4 times.
Bristol has been in the bottom 2 combining both judges scores and viewer votes frequently during the season. That means there haven't been inordinately huge numbers of people voting for her. because the judges scores haven't had that big a span between the high and the low.
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Well, my feeling is that if it's suppose to be about the dancing; then it really would be better if the family members of people who are actively engaged in politics NOT compete (be they republican, democrat, libertarian, whatever....), because if you are voting for OR against someone because you like or don't like their parent..... then you've lost the validity of the premise.
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I have to agree with Odalyis. I am very disappointed with this season's show because I feel it has all been a set up. I stopped watching it when I realized palin was going to win no matter what. I think she is weak and shows little if any growth.
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Headline and lead from a local paper:
Wisconsin man shoots TV after watching Bristol Palin Dance
A rural Wisconsin man apparently enraged by Bristol Palin's "Dancing with the Stars" routine blasted his television with a shotgun, leading to an all-night standoff with a SWAT team, investigators said.
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I don't plan on watching this show any more. The best way to express yourself if you are unhappy is to not watch and their ratings will go down. That is a powerful message and that is the way I will express myself.
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Thanks for the heads up misfit, on voting online. I had no idea I could do this; I tried to phone in, in the past and couldn't so thought I couldn't vote. Believe me, I'll be voting on Monday.
I don't like Sarah Palin at all but I have nothing against Bristol. She seems like a very sweet young woman. For me, politics has nothing to do with it. Yes, she's improved but she is very far from being the best dancer or even one of the top three or even four.
There are always contestants who have an edge. Anyone who is used to performing in front of an audience has an advantage be they athletes, singers or actors. There are also people who just have natural rhythm or musicality. That's just the way it is.
The shine has certainly gone off this show for me.
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I bet the producers of this show have gotten more than what they expected this season. I can picture them in long meetings trying to figure out how to save this show.
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....here's a bizarre thought I had today.......what if this particular fiasco actually works in favor of the show??? It is all anyone is talking about, chatting about, it's on all the news shows, it's all over the internet.......
how many kazillion people who have NEVER watched the show are going to tune in next week to see what all the hoopla is all about????? DWTS might end up being the most watched show of ever in tv history!
and, the guy who shot his tv because he didn't like what was going on--sure hope he doesn't go to prison!!!!! I understand he has mental issues but hopefully, he'll get his meds adjusted.....this has also added fuel to the fire!!!
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Junie - you may be on to something there. It's all about the ratings.
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I think the only way to salvage this show is to cut the audience voting OUT! They should get professional judges who really know how to judge and how to give votes out without prejudice etc. This way the dancers will be judged by professional dance experts and no one, no matter how well know, can get their votes padded. On one of the other shows info came out that the votes were rigged by the winner. However the guy who didn't win went on to have a fantastic worldwide career and the "rigged vote winner" is rarely heard of. Things have a way in life of catching up to people who cheat to win. So get the audience voting out and this crap stops!
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2ztus: What did you expect the show's producers to say?? You seem to misunderstand what the real raucus is about. No one is accusing Bristol or her mom from paying people to vote but this would have happened no matter who the bad dancer was if she came into the contest with thousands of people who know her. There is no way to stop this if they continue audience voting and it is unfair to the dancers and the audience who sees a really good dancer be thrown out. It turns it from a dancing contest to a "popularity" contest. How do you think Clores Leachman kept staying on the show even when the judges got sick of her stunts. She had so many fans from her past career, they kept voting her back not for her dancing skills but because they liked "her"!
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The premise of the show is entertainment. If you are interested only in who the best dancer is, then straight ballroom dancing competitions with unknown amateurs or professionals is the contest you want to watch. They don't have particularly high ratings. Dancing with the Stars is about watching people who are already known and liked step out of their comfort zone.
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The incredulous reactions of the judges, professional dancers and hosts to the results this year tell me this is not the same as past seasons when underdogs sometimes beat out better dancers. This is happening because one of the contestants mothers is a highly-visible political force whose voter base is supporting her daughter. I like Bristol, and I give her a lot of credit for her improvement in the past few weeks. But IMHO there is nothing that endearing about her and nothing as negative about things like Maks' temper flare, to have her consistently getting enough votes on her own merit when her weekly scores are so low. To me, that is the crux of the problem. Sorry, but having Sara Palin as her Mother is what's skewing the votes, and as open-minded as I'm trying to be to both sides of the debate, I don't think it's the least bit fair. Deanna
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The scores were not that far apart. Bristol and Brandy were separated by a total of 4 points out of a possible 60 points from the 3 judges. That is not a big difference to be overcome by viewer's votes.
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I got hooked on "Stars" 3 years ago when I was going through my breast treatment and I was too sick to do much else. I had something "fun" to lookforward to on Monday and Tuesday night...even when I did not feel well.
I have an ingredient to "stir the pot!" How loud or different would the controversy over Bristol winning over Brandy be IF Bristol had been announced to be "safe", and it had been KYLE and Brandy standing there when the announcement was made that Brandy and Maks were eliminated. Hmmm. Ponder that a minute or two!
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In all honesty I would have been very upset to hear that Bristol was safe before Kyle or Brandy got their results because I feel/felt that Bristol was not as good as any of the other dancers. I don't think she was good enough to be in the semi-finals.
The fact that Bristol was only 4 points below Brandy is, IMHO, a testament to the fact that the judges have been over-inflating her marks all season. They really seem to treat Bristol with kid gloves.
I have nothing against Bristol but she is not as good as the other contestants nor as good as many of the contestants who went home before her. Although she is much better than Cloris Leachman it reminds me of how week after week Cloris stayed on while better dancers went home.
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Hmmm; a daughter wins votes for being a pretend-dancer and her mother wins votes for being a pretend-politician.
Sorry if that is offensive to any Palin fans. I am so irked!
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How many people who dislike Bristol's mother but voted for Bristol? Mmm... it'd be interesting to know. ABC should start airing exit vote interview, and extend the voting period from 2 hours to 23 hours and 58 minutes leaving 1 minute for the computer to do calculation and 1 minute for recount before the result is revealed.
Publicity is everything. Controversy is even better. Stir things up and people will watch. Remember years ago the drama of Tonya Harding and Nancy Kerrigan? That sent the rating of Figure Skating through the roof. I am sure the producers for the show are in heaven right now.
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I started this thread back in 2005 as a get-a-way during treatments. A place where we could just go and discuss something other than cancer and daily struggles. Many have come and shared their thoughts on DWTS. We've laughed and enjoyed all the dancers. I appreaciate all the loyal fans who have contributed every season...thank you. The main goal of this thread was to have fun! Sorry to see it's turned into another political thread.
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Yeah, it's a shame it's gotten so political. I agree with a previous post that it's not a good idea to have politicians or family of same on the show. I used to enjoy this show but this season has been brutal.
DWTS may be enjoying higher ratings now as people who don't normally watch tune in to see what all the fuss is about. I think that next season's ratings will be adversely affected though...short term gain for long term pain.
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The producers are laughing all the way to the bank!
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