Im bitchy, I moan, I groan.....anyway.

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  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 757
    edited March 2008

    OK, this is really a pre-bitch, since I won't be fully loaded with bitch ammo until next week.

    I just got my Oncotype score this morning, and it's ..... (drum roll, please).... 26.  My onco said with the size of my IDC (1.8 cm), the tumor grade (2), the fact that it was PR- (though ER+), and my age (56), he thinks chemo would be wise.  I agreed (reluctantly, of course), because 26 was above my personal comfort threshold.

    My dh just drove in the driveway after being gone 3 days.  He doesn't know this yet, so I'm going to sign off and go talk to him.  This changes our plans for April through June, which had been filling up with all sorts of fun things.

    otter 

  • Isabella4
    Isabella4 Member Posts: 1,352
    edited March 2008

    Small bitch about my dentist while we're on teeth.

    I have a slight gap between my 2 front teeth (there's a name for that! but I don't remember)

    I had an accident as a teen, and broke off one of my front teeth, so for years have always had a false tooth, and dental plate.

    I went for a new plate, and my silly dentist suggested that to take out the gap (which is only about a millimetre wide, I should consider having my one remaining tooth pulled, and a new plate with THREE front teeth....I ask you...have you ever seen anybody with 3 front teeth ????

    He was deadly serious, I was lost for words!!

    Isabella.

  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 236
    edited March 2008

    Isabella -- that's INSANE.

    Otter -- damn.  I'm sorry.  26 sucks.

    Heather -- I'm so sorry about your kitten.

    Tracy -- lol -- forgetting what you were about to bitch about -- that sucks!

    And now I'm afraid I've forgotten everyone else's gripes...

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 460
    edited March 2008

    Otter, crap crap crap ... that Really SUCKS!  Hugs ...

    Traci, lol ... I know I have a bitch in me somewhere if only I could remember what it is so I can get it out!

  • LisaSDCA
    LisaSDCA Member Posts: 178
    edited March 2008

    otter - that SUCKS!

    But keep your fun stuff on calendar for the first part of April. It'll take them a while to get their shit together to start treating you, get a port in, etc. and the first infusion frequently is not a kick your ass experience that later ones may be.

    Isabella, I have worked with dentists for my entire professional life. The huge majority of them are assholes. But yours is damn dangerous! Suggesting removing a perfectly healthy tooth in order to eliminate a 1mm diastema is CRIMINAL! Does he have a boat payment coming up or something?

    And you are right, of course, jamming 3 teeth into the space of two would always look unbalanced. Many people find a small diastema waaaay sexy. Kiss

    Lisa

  • Traci-----TripNeg
    Traci-----TripNeg Member Posts: 567
    edited March 2008

    Pearl....did you try the diarhea (sp?) cocktail????????

    Otter, you win the bitch of the day IMHO...just the thought of it makes my port scar itch. THAT SUCKS! Sorry girl.

    Lisa....boat payment.....LMAO!!!!!!

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 460
    edited March 2008

    Isabella, omg, I agree with Lisa and Anne.. it does sound like he's in it for the money!  Keep the small gap if you can and you're not having problems from it.  My 2 year old has one and it's the most adorable thing. I know she may not still have it when her baby teeth fall out but I love it. Reminds me of Lauren Hutton.  Sexy.

    Oh, remembered my bitch for the day.  My bitch is people who think I'm lucky because I didn't go through chemo.  Somehow I don't feel so lucky.  I've had chronic pain and fatigue for 20 years ... many of the symptoms women get after chemo or going on AI's or Tamoxifen I've been dealing with all my adult life.  Then I'm rewarded with BC at a relatively young age (42)while I have a baby to care for.  All my female body parts are removed and I'm thrust into sudden instant meno and my pain gets worse and I can't get out of the fatigue.  I worry about being around long enough to raise my children to adulthood and to be able to do it before my cognitive function gets so poor that I'm helpless to them.  I'm so limited in what I can do with my children that other mothers take for granted because of my physical limitations.  There's a lot of sadness and depression there.  I could go on but I won't.  Traci, I could use that bitch slap woman image about now.

  • Traci-----TripNeg
    Traci-----TripNeg Member Posts: 567
    edited March 2008

    lol

    Beeoooocccch!" that bitch slap sucks!! Ouch!!

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 460
    edited March 2008

    lol thanks Traci, I feel so much better now!

  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 236
    edited March 2008

    That's not a bitch slap -- that's a bitch BEATdown!!!

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 2,728
    edited March 2008

    This is my bitch for the day.  Im one of those "people" who said if you didnt need chemo you dont know how lucky you are.  Because if you have never had chemo, you will never know what its really like.  So Im hoping I can continue to make my bitch and just be told "that sucks" like Traci said when she started this thread. 

    I don't have fibromyalgia.  Im not on AI inhibitors - so you all can say to me "you dont know how lucky you are."  I dont have all the aches and pains like many of you do - but then I do have peripheral neuropathy.  Thank you taxotere very much.  I can't explain it.  For me chemo was the worst part of breast cancer, but thats just me.  Im sure others have their own worst part of breast cancer stories.  And I say to everyone - getting breast cancer sucks!

    I also think it sucks that Im er/pr negative, her2+ and failure on herceptin after 12 rounds.  That really makes me a bitchy person.

    Dental problems definitely had problems after chemo.  2 tooth crown fell off.  Two molars chipped.  My dentist told me it would cost $5,000 to get a bridge?  Dang - I could get more plastic surgery for that amount.  So right now Im smiling with two teeth missing on the side of my mouth. 

    Otter:  Im must agree.  You win the bitch of the day. Learning that you need chemo after you thought you didnt really sucks.  I know cause thats exactly what happened to me.     At least you can come here to bitch about it and we can sooooo relate.

    Paraneoplastic syndrome?  Sounds so foreign doesnt it.  I have been a registered nurse for more years than I care to admit thank you very much.  Just started a 12 week course to become onc certified.  I want to learn about all these different chemos.  For all cancers, not just breast cancer.  Anyways, part of the course is theory and part is hands on.  Soooo I evaluate a young woman.  39 y/o  when she was first diagnosed with IDC.  BRCA2 positive.  She goes through the whole route.  Bilateral mast with implants.  Removal of ovaries.  5 years later she is in severe pain and taking methadone!  Why I ask.   Thats when I learned about this phenomenon that occurs with some cancer patients.  The body goes haywire.  As it attempts to fight the cancer cells, it also fights good normal cells that are part of the immune system.  End result?  Fibromyalgia, chronic debilitating pain, fatigue, lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, MS, myasthenia gravis, parkinsons.  Its amazing!  I belong to another support group and wrote a whole thread on it.  Its cool cause I have my own forum.  "Ask our resident nurse."  If you would like the addy for the support group, just send me a pm and I will be happy to give you the name.  End of story - this patient went to Mayo clinic!  And whats scary is that this syndrome frequently get misdiagnosed.  Guess these goofy doctors think we are just hypochodriacs.  Yes - thats another bitch lol.

    Whew, I grabbed a glass of wine and will stop whining.  I do love this thread.  Thanks Staci for starting it.  

    Nickster 

  • Ltb3105
    Ltb3105 Member Posts: 56
    edited March 2008

    Heather, sooo sorry about your kitty!  As the others have said, it's waiting at the Rainbow Bridge, where they are free of pain.

    So everyone else, or almost, is losing their nails too?  WTF is up with that?  Especially ME, almost 6 years out!  I really think it's where my psoriasis decided to show up, since I got it right after chemo....and having prob's. since...I never know where it's going to show up!  I had it all over my scalp, was HELL to get my hair dyed...OUCH!  But, my nails ALWAYS fall off at the same time of the year....never during the winter when no one sees my feet....always during the warm months.  FONGOOL again, and then some.

    Well, if you read my Oldbies thread, you will know that my latest round of tests are FINE....still dancing with NED!!!   Thank GOD....I sat in the fucking exam room 45 min. before the doc showed up....do you know what went through my mind?!  "Oh God, they're consulting with the biggies....I'm probably dying!"  Yep, when you wait THAT long, you can't help but think the worst, and since I had plenty of time to ruminate, my mind had a fucking field day!

    Love and support to all,

    xooxo

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 2,728
    edited March 2008

    Laura:  If I lose my nails again 6 years out I will not be a happy camper.  My nails turned blue, then black, then just popped off.  And that dang toenail took almost a year to grow back.

    Happy Dance for Ned!

    Nickster

  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 2,126
    edited March 2008

    Nicki,


    What is peripheral neuropathy?  Is it the hands and feet are numb?  I am asking cause only ONE hand, my left, or LE hand is now numb... almost 6 months after chemo... so can we get "delayed neuropathy?"  If so, WTF is that?  Also, my lower back feels kind of numb/pained feeling, on and off...  My onc said that he will order an MRI of the brain and of the Lumbar Spine... 

    I am too scared for words!

    Harley

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 2,728
    edited March 2008

    Harley:  Well one bitch certainly would be medical terms we dont understand. I copied and pasted this for you.  Hope it helps.

    Neuropathy is a disorder of the peripheral nerves - the motor, sensory, and autonomic nerves that connect the spinal cord to muscle, skin, and internal organs.  It usually affects the hands and feet causing weakness, numbness, tingling, and pain.  It's course is variable.  It can come and go, slowing progressing or it can become severe and debilitating. 

     

    What Causes Neuropathy?

    Besides chemo, there are many causes.  About 30% are idiopathic (cause is unknown).  Another 30% is related to diabetes.  Other causes include autoimmune disorders, tumors, heredity, nutritional imbalances, infections, and toxins.

     

    It is apt to be misdiagnosed and the development of new therapies has been slow and under funded.

     

    Neurontin and Lyrica are medications that can help once peripheral neuropathy has been diagnosed.  There can be so many causes for the numbness and tingling - but hell, a brain scan would freak me out.

     

    Nickster

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 460
    edited March 2008

    Oh, somebody else said I was lucky that I didn't need chemo?  What a coincidence!   

    Harley,

    I've had neuropathy for years in my right arm and it SUCKS!  Mine is of unknown origin and very painful.  Makes it next to impossible to hold my daughter long.  Thank you to the unknown!  I do believe everything I deal with goes back to my sucky immune system and the environment.  Could yours be related to your LE?  I also have Raynauds Syndrome which causes tingling and numbness in the hands/fingers and sensitivity to temperatures.  I think any affliction can be "delayed" or be from something else altogether.  I'm sorry you have to have an MRI Harley, that really Sucks!

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 842
    edited March 2008

    I've got a long bitch list ..

    Our dryer broke last night.  I thought Mr. Tim could look it over ... he's got the time.  I've got about 50 hours of transcribing and editing to do (work from home) and my mom's coming on Sunday (from out of state) to visit.  I've got to drive 1 1/2 hours just to pick her up in NC.  Of course Mr. Tim is throwing a hissy fit because I asked him to LOOK for the dryer manual.  I'm working, or trying to.  Okay .. I wake up this morning with a migraine.  Can't cope, decide the best thing is to call a dryer fix-it guy.  The dryer is only 3 years old.  Oh yippee.  Mr. Tim is now so happy.  Remember, I'm trying to freakin' earn a living here.  So, Mr. Dryer man shows up, my 3 dogs are going nuts and barking like crazy.  So, Mr. Tim locks them in MY OFFICE while he and Mr. Dryer man bond over my dryer.  The fix cost $36. Good news.  Well, Mr. Tim and Mr. Dryer man continue bonding and smoking in the driveway while the 3 dogs continue barking and wreaking havoc in MY OFFICE. I can't hear my voice files.  There's more ...  

    My Mr. Tim has been home for 3 1/2 months on workers' comp.  I'm going out of my mind.  Well, after surgery two weeks ago, he's cleared to go back on the road on 4/9.  Thank heaven!

    I'm turning into a Vicodin addict!!  I've got to see a physiatrist now for chronic charlie horse spasms in my right arm, shoulder, neck that go down to my ribs.  WTF.  My PCP said I probably shouldn't type.  Whaaattt!!  This new doc can't see me for four weeks.  What the hell, I've already lived with this for 5 months.  Now I'm gonna have to go to freakin' rehab for addicts and muscle spasms.

    Did I mention the latest basal cell cancer on my face!!!

    Then, my DIL called and was crying.  She's only 31 married to my son and only child.  Her mother was diagnosed with b/c six months before me and her grandmom died of it.  She had a bad mammo last week and has to go back on 4/12 for more films and U/S.  I tried to calm her and offer support.  She's afraid to tell her mom.  I'm terrified for her.  They have two babies and live so far away from me. She's also a school teacher in Calif and got her layoff notice cause Calif can't afford to pay teachers and needs more money to fund their prisons. My son's in grad school and works part-time.

    Good news .. my dog doesn't have cancer.

    Now, I'm terrified of chemo and I'm lucky I didn't have to have it and I'm lucky I don't have fibromyalgia, at least I don't think I do.

    My measly ass problems are all I can manage.

    Hugs to those suffering more than I am.

    Bren

  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 2,126
    edited March 2008

    Thanks, Angel & Nicki, for the info. about neuropathy.  I guess I thought it had to be in BOTH hands and my feet, too.  Nice to know, I guess.... but still....GRRR.....   It sucks!

    Harley

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 757
    edited March 2008

    Harley, it's not your LE that's causing your hand to be numb, is it?

    Added in edit:  I just noticed that angel was already worrying about that possibility...not that LE is any more or less serious than neuropathy.  IT ALL SUCKS!!!

    otter 

  • heatherpalmerton
    heatherpalmerton Member Posts: 26
    edited March 2008

    Hi Ladies, Todays a little better,  Thanks for all the support. Heather

  • Traci-----TripNeg
    Traci-----TripNeg Member Posts: 567
    edited March 2008

    Bren, you should write a book!! You really have a way with words.

     Sorry 'bout your DIL. Maybe it's nothing. Cool The rest of your post sucked so bad it had me LMAO!

    Hugs, Traci

    P.S. I could tell my roomies BF was back in town this morning. I walked to the foyer and saw a 2 inch (literally) cigar ash in the middle of the floor. Yell It was still there when she left to go to his house 7 hours later. Guess she didn't see it. (You'd have to practically step over it to get from her room to the kitchen.) Deep sigh.

    I'm moving to Dallas.

  • JoyRebecca
    JoyRebecca Member Posts: 16
    edited March 2008

    AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

    After reading all of this, I'm working up to a real bitch session!!

    As soon as I drink this vodka martini, I'll be right with ya' Castaway

    XX

    Joy 





  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 460
    edited March 2008

    Joy

  • chemo072
    chemo072 Member Posts: 31
    edited April 2008

    so...my ewww....icky moan/bitch of the day....but big warning:  it's GROSS, a chemo side effect - to be treated with more chemo!  very minor chemo but still...

    so, I got plantars warts ick ick ick when I was immune suppressed from chemo (on the only part of my foot that hadn't peeled off - ICK again - due to the hand/foot syndrome thingy), they took over my heel, the dermatologist told me to use duct tape, did, no go, so what does she prescribe?  A magic cream, with, get this, 5 FU in it.....so, more chemo to treat the chemo side effect, as she said the immune suppression allowed the virus to get inside the surface skin on my heel.....ewwwwwwww.....and the 5 FU will stop the virus cell division....so that's my whine of the day, not only is it enough to go through treatment but the side effects go on and on and on.  

    (of course my pollyanna side says it's treatable, no big, but I know this is gonna hurt.  sigh.......) 

  • surreal
    surreal Member Posts: 1
    edited March 2008

    It's Friday night, and I'm all alone; I should be packing my stuff, cuz I'm losing my home.

    It's so hard to believe, that I'm so far away; from my dreams of long ago, of where I would be today.

    I honestly tried, to live a good life; I thought I was being, the perfect wife.

    His feelings changed, I didn't think I'd dare; but he broke my heart, I had an affair.

    The marriage ended, nine years had gone by; and for the next five years, all I did was cry.

    Fucking cancer, slapped me in the face; it knocked me off my feet, stopped my in my place.

    I'm full of self pity, my insides are cut out; my mind is no longer mine, I'm full of doubt.

    I won't leave behind, a little piece of me; you see a baby for me, wasn't meant to be.

    I look around, at my family and friends; and can't help but wonder, is this where it ends?

    They say think positive, they say have faith; but why is this happening? For God's sake?

    If there truly is, a higher power above; please someone tell me, where is the love?

    Divorce, Cancer, Bankruptcy, Forclosure; I do it all, over and over again if the adults in our world would just find a way to unify enough to stop the suffering of the little children.

    Poverty, famine, disease, abuse...it doesn't have to be. 

    k....I'm done.

  • sam408
    sam408 Member Posts: 474
    edited March 2008

    My gripe today is about my husband who does nothing and then has the nerve to complain when something isn't done for him! I'm having my tram next Wednesday so I've been crazy trying to get the house ready, grocery shop, etc. When I came home from the grocery he complained because I forgot something he wanted. . .WTH!

    This isn't really a gripe, just something I think is funny about all our new security systems (I agree that we need good security but sometimes it just goes over the top). When I went to the hospital last week for my biopsy, they gave me a lot of grief because I didn't bring a picture ID (per their instructions, I left my purse at home). They said they need it to ensure I am who I say I am. . .like I could get someone to go in my place for that procedure!!!

  • Diana63
    Diana63 Member Posts: 57
    edited March 2008

    Traci, I never get tired of the bitch slap vid. cracks me up everytime.

    Joy, did you bring any vodka martini's to share with the rest of the group??? Wink

  • gsg
    gsg Member Posts: 1,700
    edited March 2008
    Last night my husband brought home a pack of chocolate chip caramel cookies, a bag of cheetos and a people magazine featuring "Hollywood's Hottest Bodies" as a surprise for me.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 2,728
    edited March 2008

    OMG!  I got Reeses Peanut Butter cups, a bag of doritos, and chocolate cheescake.  Men!  He tells me to exercise and then entices me to eat!

    Nickster

  • gsg
    gsg Member Posts: 1,700
    edited March 2008

    I know!  How dare they! 

    I'm simultaneously eating a cookie and an apple right now, hoping the apple goodness will counteract the cookie badness.  Tongue out