Iodine, thyroid, and breast cancer??
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"ScienceDaily (Feb. 25, 2005) - HOUSTON - Researchers at The University of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center have found that women with a common thyroid gland disorder appear to have a reduced chance of developing invasive breast cancer, according to a study published in the March 15 issue of Cancer, out online Feb. 14."
No wonder we're confused by the mixed messages we receive from the medical industry. I had stage 1a grade two bc with no lymph node involvement. I could not tolerate arimidex. I had no radiation or chemotherapy because I also have congestive heart failure. I have taken thyroid medication for 15 years (hypothyroid). I have more questions than answers and wish there was more cinsistency when it comes to providing information that could help us all deal with this tramatic event we are facing.
I too had the autoimmune thyroid disease Hashimotos Thryroiditis.
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I'm reading Dr Christine Horner's book Waking the Warrior Goddess. I was so disappointed to reach the snippet on iodine to see that she recommends only 230 micrograms of iodine for daily intake, coupled with her recommendation that this piddling amount be consumed from seaweed.
Otherwise, I like the overall message from the book -- that we can enhance our health with choices we make, that food can be vitally important in fighting cancer. I'm not going to change my mind about avoiding soy, but that's mainly because soy is so prevalent in our food supply and the soy crops from the USA are treated heaviliy with chemicals.
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Althea, a lot of doctors just take a while to get up on lastest information. There is so much out there, they cannot keep it all straight. For instance, I noticed that Dr. Strand thinks that 1500 iu of Vit D is the max. Since he wrote his book in 03, a lot more researach has been done, so I am sure he will change his mind when he reads it. Horner's book has been around a while too. Maybe she is thinking differently now.
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Iodine in place of standard breast cancer treatment for DCIS:
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My son has been having lots of digestive issues. I finally have him convinced to go to my ND. In the meantime, I have been doing research for him and am convinced he has a bacterial infection that is agravated by brewers and bakers yeasts. The doctors attempts to put him on antibiotics may be doing more harm then good. I found this article that says that iodine may soon replace antibiotics:
http://www.naturalnews.com/022800_antibiotic_antibiotics_bacteria.html
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Fascinating Vivre.
I have two daughters, 17 and 20. I am thinking/ wondering if they should be on a protective dosage of Iodoral.
Does anybody know if there are recommendations for this kind of thing? Not middle aged women - but younger women?
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Spring, Dr. Brownstein has young teenage girls who take 12.5 mg Iodoral on weekdays. He says this on one of his CDs so I remembered it. That sounds like a good, protective dose. He says it helps keep all the hormones in balance. It especially keeps the estrogen receptors from getting overactive.
Stephanie from the Yahoo Iodine Group has her kids on Iodine also but I can't remember what the dose is. They're not teenagers yet but I know they at least take 12.5 mg because they're both hypothyroid.
I got my 25 year-old niece to take Iodoral through vanity. She saw my skin get better and I told her. She wouldn't do it just for health. These kids today!
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Is lodoral a form of iodine? My chiro told me that we can check to see if we are iodine deficient by putting some on a protected spot on the body (so it won't rub off) at bedtime. If it is gone in the morning then the body needed it. I'll give it a try. Sounds too easy though.
Roseann
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The Iodine patch test is sometimes reliable but not always. Because skin absorption varies so much from person to person. If you have had breast cancer, ovarian cysts or thyroid problems, it is completely unlikely that you are iodine-sufficient. The 24 hour urinary iodine test measures sufficiency. Check out FFP lab.
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Anom,
Teen girls - one of the tiny Iodoral (12.5) pills, 5 days a week. Thank you.
I am waiting on the results of my second Iodine loading test to be mailed to me from my GP. then i am going to set up another "consult" over the phone with Dr. Flechas. I am going to ask him about this for my daughters. See what he thinks. I will let you know when I find out. I think this is SO IMPORTANT.
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Spring ~ Wouldn't it be ironic if the "key" to preventing at least some forms of bcs was something as tiny as an Iodoral tablet... maybe an Iodoral tablet in combination with a D3 supplement... and never taking birth control pills or HRT. I wonder how much bc would be erradicated if we had girls do only those 3 things from adolesence on?!
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Deanna- I do believe the keys to prevention are out there. We just need to get the word out. That is what my site will promote. Komen started with just a couple sisters. We all ready have a lot more. We just needto spead the word to our friends about how to stay healthy. Those of us in the iodine study will be all the proof they will need in 10 years to steer others away from the drugs currently prescribed.
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Besides Iodine, D3, etc., I think we also need to avoid pesticides in/on our foods and other things that we're doing that poison our world.
From Dr. Lee's book: (page 32) "Israel once had one of the highest breast cancer mortality rates in the world. Within a few years of banning three pesticides (DDT, BHC, lindane)in the early 1970's, however, breast cancer deaths dropped 8 percent, while they were rising everywhere else in the world".
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http://thyroid.about.com/library/derry/bl1a.htm
This link was very helpful in understanding thyroid and breast cancer.
Hugs,
Terry
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Rumoret, thanks, very interesting.
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Barry - we will all be thinking about you and sending positive thoughts!
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I think this is the thread.
Here's a short video about it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoMfg76gAUo
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What a great piece. Thank you. I have been taking iodine for a month now and I feel great. Lots more energy and my husband commented that my figure is looking better. I have less belly fat. Don't know for sure if it's the iodine but I'm not dieting so I don't know what else would be doing it. I am on Arimidex and many complain that they are gaining weight but I haven't had that issue. Worth a try if you aren't yet taking it.
Roseann
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OK.
I did my first Iodine loading test 4/2009 and it was 59%. So I took 50mg Iodoral and 2 ATP cofactors (per Dr. Flechas) for 4 months and retested.
Second test 8/2009 shows 64%!!! only 5% increase!!!!
So I am putting together my thoughts, questions, on this and will set up to have an consult again with Dr. F. He said they hope for 90% or more saturation.
I am frustrated! I am taking Magnesium, buffered C. I wonder if my Thyroid hormone is blocking this. Ugh.
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Spring
Do not fret. I read on the iodine group that it could take a year to go up. I also read that progesterone aids in absorption, if you want to go that route. Remember, it took a long time for us to be deficient, and Rome wasn't built in a day. I can't wait to hear what Dr. F says. He may tell you to up your dose.
Roseann-are you taking the kelp iodine or the iodoral or lugol's?
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Hi Vivre,
I'm taking Sea Iodine 1000 mcg. I buy it from an online vitamin company called LifeExtension.
I have an appt. to get my levels check for a number of different things.
Roseann
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Roseann, that is not nearly enough iodine to make a difference but it is a start. Check out the info at bcchoices. I take 50mg, not mcg.
Makingway-thanks for the heads up on Dr. B! I hope people will tune in (and I can remember to).
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Vivre, thanks for the perspective. I will report back...
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Wow! VIvre, thanks for letting me know.
Roseann
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Went to see my GP today and asked about iodine. I wasn't expecting him to tout any of this natural stuff but he told me a story of a patient who decided to take iodine on her own and her thyroid became hypothyroid because of over stressing it with the iodine. Is this possible or did she take too much?
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Good morning,
Unfortunately, nutritionally ignorant but otherwise but otherwise competant doctors have one bad experience and make it the norm. How much did this women take? Japanese women get 10 times what the normal western women gets and they're fine. Please read "Breast Cancer and Iodine. That will ease your mind. How many people who had chemo had deadly reactions. I can assure you your doc has more stories about that than about iodine. Would he/she discourage you from getting chemo? Knowledge is power and unfortunately we have to do our own investigation when it comes to nutrition. However, there are many nutrition based doctors out there and if you tell me where you live, I may be able to give you some names in your area. There are some listed in the back of the book, "What Your Doctor Won't Tell You About Breast Cancer". That's how I found mine.
Roseann
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I just thought I'd run it by him and I got what I expected. He's a wonderful doctor and he did excuse himself by saying he was in no way literate in these things and was just passing on a story that he had recently heard. I'm trying to find a doctor in the Montreal area that will take my case. I am hypothyroid and am presently on Synthroid, I have been on it for about 20 years and I have to admit I nevr feel quite "normal" or great. If you know of any doctors around here, I'd appreciate having their name. I do have Dr Lee's book and will check but I think that just may apply to US docs.
Terri
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Well said Rosann
You gals might want to consider joining the yahoo group discussion on iodine. They are discussing iodine and hypothyroid. I always learn a lot just by reading the discussion. I think there is a link at naturalthyroidchoices.
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