MIDDLE-AGED WOMEN 40-60ish

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  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 10,618

    I'd buy that one!

  • walker2222
    walker2222 Member Posts: 442

    The Victorian era was very interesting.

  • torigirl
    torigirl Member Posts: 748

    Saw this bumper sticker today and thought of this thread...

    "I'm still HOT, it just comes in flashes now!" 

    Have a great weekend all!

    Tori 

  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 11,438

    Oh Tori!   ROTFLMAO..........That is priceless!

  • torigirl
    torigirl Member Posts: 748

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  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 10,618

    And it's pink, ToriGirl!

  • torigirl
    torigirl Member Posts: 748
  • Anjanita
    Anjanita Member Posts: 43

    My grandma was young at the end of the Victorian Age and it wasn't uncommon for women to have an opium problem due to treating their (modest) female troubles with various tonics.  Did I read once that Lydia Pinkham's had an addictive substance in it at one time?

     Yes, they were a rascally bunch, those Victorians.

    I'm in mind of all the drugs that have been developed to help humans cope with pain:  The men came home from wars addicted to Opium and when Morphine was discovered it was thought to be a godsend as it "wasn't addictive."  Oopsie.

    Then came Heroin to replace the Morphine.  And another oopsie.  Methadone hasn't had a much better track record.

    We women with our "nervous problems" had the barbiturates in the forties to be replaced with the "safer" minor tranquilizers in mid-century and on and on.

    I'm glad for the accomplishments of modern medicines and also cautiously aware that for the good they provide there are always the downfalls of the side-effects.  It's a mixed bag. 

  • eph3_12
    eph3_12 Member Posts: 2,704

    heartnsoul-that Bozo picture almost made me pee! It surprised me how it affected me.  I always thought I liked clowns but I guess when they resemble homicidal maniacs they aren't so cheery!

  • raeinnz
    raeinnz Member Posts: 553

    I hate clowns too - always have, always will.  Also don't like non-human objects that are made human ie moom man 

  • catbill
    catbill Member Posts: 102

    What is it about clowns?  When i was a child, I was scared spitless, now I just hate 'em!!

    Anjanita-pretty name.

    Mankato, huh?  Prior Lake here...right down the road from Mystic Lake Casino.  Are you keeping up with the snow shoveling this year?  It's already a record-breaking year here, and I think you folks have more than we do for overall totals.    Yeeesh!!!

    TMarina-

    Another Minnesotan!  I watched my colonoscopy too.  I wanted to know how they knew when they'd gone far enough.  Gotta say I hated the prep the evening before the procedure, but it wasn't so bad.  DH and I went out for lunch afterwards...starving and dehydrated.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 7,605

    Paula66, what makes you a Stage II???

  • nativemainer
    nativemainer Member Posts: 7,898

    Paula66-treatment decision making is soooo hard to do, and there is no one right answer. It's such a personal decision. Some things that I thought about that helped me make my choices were: (1) IF, God forbid, the beast came back, how would you feel about having taken a certain treatment? Would you feel guilty if you didn't take chemo, for instance? (2) How likely are you to have side effect, temporary and permanent, and how does that compare to the benefit the treatment would give you? Are the risks worth the benefit, in your mind? (3) What does your gut tell you to do or not do? The treatment choices I made based on intellectual examination but different from my gut feelings are the decisions I regret. We all have different priorities and feelings about this journey, and we have all made different choices. Keep asking questions and take your time, don't allow yourself to be rushed into a decision.

    TMarina-thanks for the reality check about colonoscopies. I am so needle phobic that I am avoiding dong that just because I don't think I can handle another hour-long 4 or 5 person, dozens of sticks session to get an IV started, and no one locally is willing to give me oral sedation before starting that torture process. I know intellectually that getting the screening done is more important (especially since I have Barrett's Esophagus and they would do an upper endoscopy at the same time), but emotionally, right now, I'd rather not have it done and I'd rather not know if I have any more cancer. I'm just not at a point where I can go through the diagnosis/treatment decision making/painful procedure thing again. If I had medical people around that did these things that I felt actually cared about me as a person and not an item on an assembly line, maybe I could do this. Right now I just can't. Maybe if I could find someone who would let me watch-around here it's they don't allow that, and part of my fear comes from the secretiveness-it must be pretty bad if they don't let people watch!

    Raeinnz-I never could, and to this day cannot see the Man in the Moon. I think everyone who says they do is fooling with me!  ;)

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 10,618

    I am a hard stick, too, NM.  Last surgery I had to have three nurses, one holding a flashlight, try to get the IV started.  I have had more veins blown by techs than I can count.  Being able to only use one arm, and not having been given the option of a port during chemo, I have very few veins left to use.

    Rea, I am with you, I don't like the humanization of things that should not be.  I feel great to know I am not alone in my fear of sock monkeys, clowns and puppets. Now I don't mind animal puppets, but marionettes??? YUK!!!!! As a treat for the students in elementary school, a marionette company would do a show each year and then we'd get to go back stage and see the puppets hanging in the racks.  Not a wonderful memory.

  • elimar
    elimar Member Posts: 5,885

     And now the counterpoint...or clown-terpoint, if you will...

    It pains me a little to think this thread is so full of clown-haters.  I'm sure you all have some deep-rooted issues to work out (maybe traumatization from a squirting daisy) and hope you get the professional help you need.  No, I'm not at all bothered by clowns.

    As far as lending human features to non-human things (anthropomorphism,) I've liked that ever since I was a kid.  How vividly I remember the segment of the movie Fantasia where the Greek satyrs are playing and then the end of their day comes when a woman in a dark cloak sweps across the sky (nightfall.)  Loved it!

  • annettek
    annettek Member Posts: 1,160

    elinar....you are pretty darn punny...

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 10,618

    Elimar, I am sorry if I have offended you in my Coulrophobia, not hatred.  Something tells me you are a closet clown,  maybe you put on a little too much lipstick now and then, or you enjoy trying on shoes that are way too big for you.  When fixing you kids lunches you are inclined to do a little juggling with their apples & oranges?

    I don't mind clowns in the circus.  I think I can atribute my problem to the Twilight Zone.  I still remember "Talking Tina" and she doesn't like you!

    Have you seen the commercial for the US Postal service where they are trying to get rid of the gift the got online?  It's a clown doll and scares the family.

  • elimar
    elimar Member Posts: 5,885
    Thanks for "outing" my inner clown Meece.  I feel so free now.  (Unfortunately, I have feet big enough to fill out those clown shoes, so never encountered shoes that were "way too big."  Oh, my dainty-footed sisters, you have no idea.)
  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 10,618

    I haven't had dainty feet since I was in the fourth grade.  My mother had difficulty finding shoes fit for a 10 year old in a ladies size 6.  By 8th grade, size 8 1/2 and it just got worse from there.  My grandma told me I'd be a giant if half of me didn't lay on the ground.  She said women like us just had a "Great Under-standing".

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 10,618

    Sometimes I feel like I shop for the same size as cross-dressing men!

  • elimar
    elimar Member Posts: 5,885

    Well, that IS interesting to be able to stay awake during the colonoscopy.  I'm sure whoever I am going to will be one of the secretive doctors, not progressive enough to even entertain the idea of the patient being awake.  I would like to view my innards.  On the other hand, since everyone says the "sleep" is so great, that sounds appealing too.

    I asked if I could be awake during my lumpectomy.  While the doctor never did give a flat out "No," he instead said, "I feel that I could do a better job if you were anesthetized, so I would be sure you were not feeling any pain."  Wasn't that a sneaky yet diplomatic way of saying, "We're doing it my way?"  My asking was not way off-base.  I had an excisional biopsy (same thing as lumpectomy, really) ten years earlier and was fully awake for it.  Of the two, I preferred being awake for the proceedings.  I felt a little pressure of the surgery, so what?  I got to join in the chat of what everyone had planned for that weekend, while they ran the tissue up to the lab for a quick look-see.   Then, no nasty anesthesia hangover for the next 24-48 hours.  Good deal!

  • elimar
    elimar Member Posts: 5,885
    Meece, that was no trannie, that was ME in my clown lipstick!  Aha-ha-ha!
  • elimar
    elimar Member Posts: 5,885
    I like how CLOWNS and COLONOSCOPIES are interwoven on this thread.  Where else can you go for THAT????
  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 10,618

    I guess I will be fine as long as when I arrive for my colonoscopy that my dr, is not dressed up as a clown.

  • elimar
    elimar Member Posts: 5,885

    I second that emotion!

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 7,545

    Colonoscopy clowns?  Now that is a new one.  You ladies are so easily amused.

  • Paula66
    Paula66 Member Posts: 1,572

    Thanks girls for the imput.  Barbe the Onc satged me at 2 because the tumer was larger the 2cm, and the fact the nodes tested positive at the microscopic level for cancer cells.  My sister thinks it was strange for her to give me this tool, but I kinda like it.  It was so much eaiser to come to the decision to remove them both then to figure this one out.  My Onc said if she had this choice that she would do whatever it took to keep it away.   Btw clowns are a fun!!  I love the ones that come here during the Shriners Circus. 

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 7,605
    Sorry Paula, I could have sworn I saw 1 cm when I saw your post.....Undecided I had micromets and two nodes pretty much fused together but lost the window of opportunity to do chemo or rads. There is a time limit, in months, so you do have some time.
  • susantm
    susantm Member Posts: 71

    Speaking of dental work ( mentioned before the clowns popped in...), I had a mouth mold taken and was to schedule getting 3 crowns put in when I got my BC diagnosis. Those crowns had also been postponed when I was broke paying for a son in college. I suppose I should reschedule. Sigh. Somehow it just doesn't seem right that we have to keep paying people to cause us pain... you know... Undecided

  • Paula66
    Paula66 Member Posts: 1,572

    Yea when I first started this journery they said it was at 1.5cm on on end and on the other end it was at 1cm.  Final path put it at 2.5 at its greastest dimension. Thanks Barb.  Yea I just dont wanna jump into something like this on a spur of the moment thing thats for sure.  Hubby wants me to go full force.  Im still thinking about it.