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  • nativemainer
    nativemainer Member Posts: 7,923

    Hooray Faith!!!!!!!! I promise I won't tell your kids. . .

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 10,618

    Your kids don't have access to this forum do they?

  • elimar
    elimar Member Posts: 5,886

    My follow-up with my BS today went great.  I had no apprehension at all, since I knew my mammo results already.  He just kind of checked the surgery site, then a CBE of both breasts, then we talked about which colleges our boys were looking at.  The unusual thing about my BS is that although he is the main BS in my healthcare network, he's also an Army doctor who's made several trips to Afganistan.  I'm sure it's a lot more than breast surgery over there.

  • OG56
    OG56 Member Posts: 377

    Glad to hear all went well for you E.

    Faith, glad to hear you are doing well and your pathology came back okay.

    I got a call from my BS last night letting me know I would need another excisional biopsy due to the MRI biopsy reporting more LCIS...bah hum bug is rightCry

     I have been sitting on the fence awhile now regarding BMX, but if I sit on it any longer the biopsy's will do it for me! Then I will just have to go for the DIEP.

    Linda

  • faithandfifty
    faithandfifty Member Posts: 4,424

    (((((((((((((((((((((((Linda)))))))))))))))))))))))))

  • elimar
    elimar Member Posts: 5,886
    Omahagirl, cancer fights dirty and lately it is making me so mad that it's going around sucker punching the women here.  We have all been thru' enough!  It bothers me that we can do all the treatments, put up with all the indignities, be faithful in our follow-ups, and still not be able to get the upper hand with cancer.  Forgive my metaphor, but I am sorry that you have to get back into the ring to fight another round..
  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 527

    OG crap!

    Just pm'ed you.

    Hugs!

  • smithlme
    smithlme Member Posts: 383

    From one Linda to another Linda...big hug...and what crappy news.

    Linda

  • nativemainer
    nativemainer Member Posts: 7,923

    Firstly, I acknowledge the crappy stuff happening to some of our sisters on this board.  BC sucks out loud.  No matter what we do, some of us will get mets/recurrence and some of us won't.  It's not fair. It's not right.  BC does not fight fairly. 

    Secondly, I'd like to show bc that we can still maintain our interest in life despite what it tries to do to us.  So I'm posting a copy of an e-mail my mother sent me.  Some of you may have already seen it, but it tickles my fancy and I wanted to share: 

    Recently, in a large city in Australia, a poster featuring a young, thin and tan woman appeared in the window of a gym.
    It said, "This summer, do you want to be a mermaid or a whale?"

    A middle-aged woman, whose physical characteristics did not match those of the woman on the poster, responded publicly to the question posed by the gym.


    To Whom It May Concern,
    Whales are always surrounded by friends (dolphins, sea lions, curious humans.)
    They have an active sex life, get pregnant and have adorable baby whales.
    They have a wonderful time with dolphins stuffing themselves with shrimp.
    They play and swim in the seas, seeing wonderful places like Patagonia, the Bering Sea and the coral reefs of Polynesia .
    Whales are wonderful singers and have even recorded CDs.
    They are incredible creatures and virtually have no predators
    other than humans.
    They are loved, protected and admired by almost everyone in the world.

    Mermaids don't exist.
    If they did exist, they would be lining up outside the offices
    of Argentinean psychoanalysts due to identity crisis. Fish or human?
    They don't have a sex life because they kill men who get close to them, not to mention how could they have sex?
    Just look at them ... where is IT?
    Therefore, they don't have kids either.
    Not to mention, who wants to get close to a girl who smells
    like a fish store?

    The choice is perfectly clear to me: I want to be a whale.

    P..S. We are in an age when media puts into our heads
    the idea that only skinny people are beautiful, but I prefer to enjoy an ice cream with my kids, a good dinner with a man who makes me shiver, and a piece of chocolate with my friends.
    With time, we gain weight because we accumulate so much information and wisdom in our heads that when there is no more room, it distributes out to the rest of our bodies.
    So we aren't heavy, we are enormously cultured, educated and happy.
    Beginning today, when I look at my butt in the mirror I will think, ¨Good grief, look how smart I am!¨

  • smithlme
    smithlme Member Posts: 383

    Let's here it for us whales! I actually live way up north and get the privilege of watching these magnificent creatures swimming up north, to Alaska. It is such a beautiful sight to see the pods, especially when one or two breech the surface and "waves" it's tail fin. We even have an annual Whale Walk here!

  • OG56
    OG56 Member Posts: 377

    Thanks for the love ladies, it is needed and appreciated (big smile).

    I love that letter to the gym Native tell your Mama that we all enjoyed it.

    I am a Pisces, and I like to think of myself as Whale, and sometimes I think I resemble one too (:

  • one-L
    one-L Member Posts: 653

    nativemainer, thanks  for sharing the story.  How true it is. 

    I will be a whale also.  We went to Hawaii once and did a whale watching trip.  It was fantastic.  Another time when we were there we stayed on the ocean front and you could see the whales.  I would love to live close to the beach where you could see such beautiful creatures. 

    Omahagirl, sorry to hear about the biopsy.  That just has to be the pits. 

    elimar, glad to hear you got some good news.  Sounds like you have a really good relationship with your BS.  woohooo

    Juannelle

  • elimar
    elimar Member Posts: 5,886
    one-L, I don't know if I would go that far.  Once somebody cuts my body, it puts a real strain on the relationship.  (Seriously, I was acquainted slightly with my BS beforehand from youth soccer.  Our sons go to the same high school.  It was actually a little weird to peel my top off the first time.)
  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 10,618

    OmahaG, I am so sorry that you are going to have to endure another sugery.

    I live a couple of hours from the ocean and I have actually gone to the beach and stood on the pier where the whales were swimming right up to it.  It was almost as if they came that close to show us their babies and to get a look at us.  It was amazing.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 7,605

    We were in Magdalena Bay off the Baja pennisula on the west coast there, when the mother whales bring their babies into the bay to feed. We were in pongos, narrow wood boats, sitting 2 people per row and holding only about 8 of us,  just to give you an idea....

    So anyway, they cut the engine on the boat so the mommy's know to bring the babies closer. The first whale I saw coming up I said "Holy crap!" The driver said "that's the baby!" You can see all the baranacles and cuts and scrapes on the mommys and the babies are so smooth and pure. The driver told us he would stamp on the bottom of the boat if he saw bubbles coming up around the boat and that would alert the mommy that we were above her and she'd move over. Boy was I glad they had that worked out! Some boats got babies close enough to pat. 

    These were grey whales. Grey whales will spend hours with two males rubbing up and down the female until one leaves and let's the other impregnate. They are very tactile animals. The mommies wanted the babies to learn about us and tolerated the pongos.

    Then, after about an hour, a HUGE male breached...just BEAUTIFUL. I will never forget the sight...sigh. That was a signal to all the pongos to go and we all left the bay. Absolute respect for the whales and understanding from the locals. Truly amazing.

    Yes, make me a whale. With pride!

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 10,618

    You cannot "legally"  approach the grey whales, but they can approach you.  That is why they cut the engines.  I forgot how close you are allowed to get to them in approach, but it is breathtaking to see them come up to you.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 7,605

    We couldn't see them in the bay as we headed out. Then the boats stopped and in about 20 minutes the whales started to mill around us. Apparently, they come in when they HEAR the motors....go figure. The locals were very strict about it all, but it was a sight I will have forever!

    We watched mommies teach babies how to dive and come up again. The babies rode on the moms backs. The mommies got touched but I don't think anyone got a baby near enough to them. There were about 12-15 feet out from us. Awesome....after a while you forget that they could tip the boat so easily!

  • nativemainer
    nativemainer Member Posts: 7,923

    It sounds like Pacific whales are a lot calmer than Atlantic whales.  I've been out on a number of whale-watching cruises over the years.  There is a limit to how close a boat can get to a whale, but once at that limit, with the engines off the whales can choose to come closer.  Mostly I've seen humpack and right whales, neither of which seem interested in coming very close to the boats.  Being in deep water they often dive when the boats show up and come up miles away.  Every now and again one of the boats will get "bumped" by one of the bigger whales.  The zodiac the College of the Atlantic crews use for research pretty regularly get "bumped" and capsized.  Not a good thing in an area where sharks are known to swim, too!  Beautiful creatures, though. 

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 10,618

    That's scary, NM!  I like being in bigger boats when out with the whales.

  • nativemainer
    nativemainer Member Posts: 7,923

    Me too! I've seen the reserachers out in the zodiac--it's a rubber boat not even as big as the rafts used for white water rafting!  Stupid thing to be out in, if you ask me.   But then, I just grew up on the coast, what do I know about the Atlantic?

  • nativemainer
    nativemainer Member Posts: 7,923

    I am all a-tither right now.  A few minutes ago I got off the phone from speaking with my PS's administrator.  She's going to call the BS office and start the process of scheduling my reconstruction.  I should have a date by the end of next week, it's possible I'll have it by the end of the day today if there aren't kinks to work out.  I asked for June, and she said they only do bilateral recons on Mondays, so I know that much.  I've got the same (but not as strong) feeling of butterflies in my stomach as I did while waiting to get an appointment with a surgeon afer the mammogram in Jan '07, then waiting to get the biopsy results, then waiting to get the surgery date. . . .

    My brother and his wife gave the rest of the family a gift certificate for a whale watch trip next summer.  I haven't been in so long, and this is going to be so much fun!  

  • OG56
    OG56 Member Posts: 377

    Native, is the feeling somwhere between excited and terrified? Will you be having surgery close to home?

  • nativemainer
    nativemainer Member Posts: 7,923

    The feeling is exactly half terrified and half excited.  I live in central Maine and will be having recon done in Boston.  Nobody in Maine does DIEP reconstruction surgery. 

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 7,605

    How exciting NM!!! But, hey, surgery IS surgery....

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 10,618

    Congrat, NM.  That is great news.

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 10,618

    This was about a local man who was out on his fishing boat with three other men several years back:

    "A Californian restaurant owner was killed when a whale breached and crashed into the bow of his fishing boat.  He was aboard his boat The BBQ on Sunday when the whale hit and tossed him into the sea eight kilometres off Port San Luis.

    Three other fishermen stayed aboard the damaged boat, which was towed to shore by the Coast Guard.

    Mr Tibbs and his three friends were just ending a day fishing for albacore when the accident occurred.

    After more than 18 hours of searching, his body was found on Monday afternoon. "

    Sad and scary.

  • smithlme
    smithlme Member Posts: 383

    Alrighty...I am going to take a major detour and vent. My husband's 94 year old aunt lives with us. My husband made a promise to his mom before she died that he would take care of her. Auntie attends adult day care 4 days a week. She still showers by herself, can dress and feed herself and usually makes it to the bathroom. She does wear Depends, just in case. She has severe arthritis in her hands and feet and most likely everywhere else. She uses a walker when she leaves the house and uses a 4 footed cane inside.

    On occasion she takes a fall. It hasn't been anything serious, so far. She wrenched her elbow getting into the senior bus and someone at the center mentioned a broken arm and that started a whole lotta appointments. After a trip to the ER, x-rays, a splint put on, her crying because it hurt, we finally saw a specialist. Surprise, surprise...it was an old break that had already healed.

    A couple more falls and we took her back to the doctor today. She is uneducated and as far as anyone knows, she's never been tested to see what her IQ is. She speaks a mix of English and Spanish and even that is extremely difficult to understand. Anyway...she has lost 5 pounds since November. Mind you, she eats like a horse while at home and the senior center claims she eats well there. I asked her doctor today when was the last time auntie has had a complete physical. Well...gee...maybe she should have one. I was not a happy camper. My husband is her guardian and I have no say in her care. I was concerned that the weight loss could be caused by an illness/disease and she gave me an attitude and said, "Well, we aren't going to go looking for something. Even if she had something we wouldn't do anything at her age. Is that what you want?" I held my ground and told her that I'm concerned with what appears to me to be basic care for the elderly. She may be old but she deserves the best care possible.

    My husband made an appointment for her to have a physical next week. When we got home I looked in our phone book and found a geriatric doctor. Now I need to convince him that she needs to see a doctor who specializes in senior adult care.

    Oh, and auntie is a stubborn woman and when I tried to have her use her walker in the house, she rammed it into the walls and finally pushed it into a corner and refuses to use it. We have night lights in her room and bathroom and it took several stern talks with her to quit unplugging them. I swear she is like a 94 year old toddler...

    OK...venting is over...life is good...the sun is actually peeking out from behind the clouds...breathe in....breathe out...

  • nativemainer
    nativemainer Member Posts: 7,923

    smithlme--Oh, my, you dear thing.  Elder care is no walk in the park. Despite the fact ther her husband is her guardian, she really can't be made to do anything she doesn't want to do.  All you can do is keep reminding her that the walker/nightlights/Dr appointments are necessary to her well being.  Good for you for standing up for her.  She certainly does deserve care and a 5 pound weight loss needs to be looked into.  Yes, they may find something for which the treatment will not have enough benefit to justify the side effects and risks, but they may find something very easily fixed, too.  If they find anything at all--no explanation is another possibility.  Still, if it's a simply fixed problem, she deserves the care.  So keep breathing in and breathing out.  .  .

    Ok, I didn't get a surgery date today.  I kept telling myself not to expect to hear back today, my surgery isn't for 6 months and there are women who need surgery now who must be given priority.  There's no rush to get the date.  It's in the works and I need to trust in the process.  Breathe in, breathe out, breathe in, breathe out....

  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 527

    no idea where to post this

    my cousins stage 3C ovarian cancer just came back

  • nativemainer
    nativemainer Member Posts: 7,923

    {{{{{{{{{{hugs, cookiegal}}}}}}}}}}}