Physical aging appearance
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Getting back to Anne Kreamer and her terrific book, Going Gray, I was just reading the morning paper and came across Planned Parenthood's Cecile Richards and her beautiful silver hair and cut blew me away. I googled images of her and found out that she's the daughter of the late Texas Governor, Anne Richards....another gal who had radiant gray hair. Now if anyone knows about Texas women, they know how much they like to win Miss USA contents! Those gals know how to put themselves together, IMHO. But the reason why I mention this mother and daughter is because this is what Anne Kreamer talks about in her book. She talks about how her mother was raised and how she perceived what her appearance should be like based on her mother's appearance. As a mother herself, she asked how she could be critical of her daughters appearances when she was doing things that were less than becoming on herself...although, now follow me with this...at the time she was dolling herself up, she thought she looked terrific. It wasn't until after she looked at a photo of herself next to another woman, whom she admired, did she take a more critical look at her own appearance. From looking at that photo, she not only enlightened herself about her own appearance, but she realized what kind of physical appearance messages she was giving her daughters. I don't think I'm explaining this with the kind of essense that she's trying to convey in the book. But looking at the Richards, it becomes apparent how influencial a mother can be on her daughter's appearance as well as self esteem.
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I googled her images too and they are beautiful!!! I don't understand the one of her on the motorcycle on the magazine cover. Looked like an old lady!
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There you go!
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Here's the better looking one.
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OH SILLY ME!!! The one on the motor cycle is her MOTHER!!!! Got it!!!
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Putting politics aside...You have to admit...that mother and daughter...WOW! They're firing on all cylinders!
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yep, gray is beautiful.....just gotta work on the face part.....off to get some free Lancome samples after my trip to the bowling alley this morning which I think sounds like fun for some reason. Wasn't that a line that the butler in Arthur had?....something about Liza looking like a woman who would frequent a bowling alley. No offense intended if any of you are bowlers. I have no desire to see the remake of Arthur...don't think anyone could do it as well as Dudley Moore did.
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I was telling another poster recently about Phyllis K Robinson who passed a few months ago at the age of 89. Ms. Robinson was in advertising and created advertising for Clairol. With her successful campaign, she singlehandedly convinced a generation or two of women, to dye their hair. I recently saw the DVD Art and Copy which is about advertising. She was interviewed in the film. What I first noticed about her was that at age 85 or 86... She was salt and pepper. While holding pictures of some of her Clairol ads she said,"I never used the stuff."
So sisters, there you have it. The woman who convinced women to dye their hair, NEVER dyed her hair.0 -
It was really hard for me because I have a size "Large" head, apparently. My wig selection was always very limited. I was able to find some, but size Large is much rarer.
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My head is bigger than my DH's too! He is 6'1". His head looks HUGE!
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Marybe my DH loved the movie author nag I can not imagine anyone else than Fudly Moore playing Authur he was so funny in that movie
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Parabens seem to be everywhere. I need ideas for sunscreen for my face that is as clean and effective as possible. Do you ladies have any ideas?
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Yep I agree always taken for alot younger---now skin is turning to leather and the facial hair ---particularly mustache----first year I have had to wax eyebrows and stash. another gift of AI's. Cetaphil is the omly moisturizer that doesn't cause more problems.
Take 400mg of fish or flax seed oil aday---always did wonders. now that affect seems to be not working either.
Polanna works well when I'm rested--------But that doecn't happen to often:(((
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Hi all,
I just found a shampoo called Shikai that is organic, not tested on animals, and has a formulation for grey hair. The shampoo is purple-colored and has blue malva in it. I got it at the drugstore for $8.50. Just bought it right now so haven't tried it yet, but I have high hopes.
I started going grey at 19, but it was constrained to one streak in front. After chemo, my hair is growing back and is probably 70% grey. Sometimes I really like it, but other times I hate looking so much older than my 36 years. Instant menopause hasn't helped with the dry skin, wrinkles, etc. And my perma-dark circles under the eyes. Ugh.
I have never been a vain person. And honestly I've never been one of the "pretty girls" so I never had any of my self-worth tied up in appearance. But for the past few months I just feel like I look so old and fat and it seems so unfair to age so fast. You'd think chemo could have at least made me skinny or something!
OK, rant over. Thanks for letting me vent. I'll update if the shampoo is good!
Karen
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I have aged in the last seven months by at least 10 years. I used to have glowing skin. Now it is dry and lacks color. I have more wrinkles. No matter what I do or put on my face I can not even have one day that I feel I look as I used to. I have tried scrubs, moisturizers, etc. I am only on herceptin at the moment so I think it is from chemo and instant menopause. This would have been a gradual occurrence had I reached menopause naturally. When I went to get a pelvic sonogram (long story, everything is ok though), the women said I was still ovulating and that my eggs were not fried. I have not menstruated since November though. Perhaps it will come back and soo will my nice skin eventually.
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Petjunkie, let us know if you like the shampoo......sorry you are so young and going through this stuff that should come eventually with older years. All I can tell both you and Kathleen is to moisturize, moisturizer, moisturize. Quite a few women on here recommend coconut oil and I like Eucerine plus I am using just about any moisture surge, antiaging cream they are giving free samples of at the dept stores. My neighbor who works for P&G said if we call up and complain and say they discontinued our Pantene and that we don't like the Clairol product, they will send up a bunch of free coupons.
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My neighbor who works for P&G sent me this.
We tell our salon clients to keep their gray hair shiny and soft and their color pure with moisturizing, clarifying shampoos and conditioners, some of which are now made specifically for gray hair. Clairol Shimmer Lights Shampoo ($10.50), Phytargent Whitening Shampoo ($20), or Artec White Violet Color Shampoo ($15.50) are shampoo treatments that contain bluing tints to prevent that avoid-at-all-costs yellowing effect. To ensure the shampoos achieve the level of brightness you like, mix equal parts of the shampoo with a regular moisturizing shampoo at first use, and experiment until you get familiar with the product and its effect. If hair starts to get a purplish cast, switch to a clarifying and/or moisturizing formula shampoo, alternating formulas for best results.
You should only use it twice a week, or less.
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Has anyone tried Juvaderm? I am seriously considering it as I cannot believe how much this treatment has aged me. My husband says I look fine but other people have made comments that hurt to the core. I am 46 and some random guy the other day guessed at 54, I was devastated. I know I should turn the other cheek but for about a year now I have been considering my options. Before BC I used to say I could not ever imagine turning to cosmetic surgery - I don't want to change things completely but just regain some semblance of my former self.
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Gaynorl- ouch! I'm considering it too. Who is this looking back in the mirror at me????? Having said that, I am trying to be kind, gentle, patient and loving towards myself. Our bodies have taken a beating!!!! Let me know if you bite the bullet. - Daiva
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I've been thinking about that Juvaderm also. I am 53 and look about 60. I just found an ad in a magazine I was reading about something called Sculptra Aesthetic that I am going to look into. It is similar to Juvaderm but it is done gradually and supposed to last longer. Has anyone heard of this?
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Wow, I feel so much better now knowing others have been considering this as an option too! My best friend says I should go for it so I have booked an appointment to meet with our local doctor who is registered to perform this procedure. I'm not sure for a couple of reasons - the cost, not initially but because it doesn't last and you have to go for top ups 2 - 3 times a year and finding out whether the hylaronic acid they use can have an impact for recurrence of cancer. Apparently this "acid" naturally occurs in our bodies and helps for cell rejuvenation, and that's where I wonder whether it is safe for someone to use who has had cancer. I will investigate more before my meeting on the 28th and I will keep you updated. I just know that right now I am sick of feeling and looking old before my time. I have tried the hair do and buying new clothes but it just isn't cutting it for me.
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So there I am doing my morning reading when I came across this article in the current issue of New York Magazine about Cecile Richards. Hmmm...wasn't I just talking about her the other day about how terrific her gray hair looks? Anyway, I read the article below, and it's articles like this about women that make me want to BARF. Okay, so she's beautiful. But her armor includes a "perfect navy blue pants suit...and brooch." I ask you, sisters, had she been a male, would we be hearing about all of these types of details? I certainly do not want to get into a debate about her politics, but isn't a woman's brain, her best piece of armor???? Yikes!
116 Minutes With Cecile Richards
The Planned Parenthood boss carries on the fight late into a Washington night, armed with talking points and her mother's lucky ring.
- By Daniel Fromson
- Published Apr 15, 2011
(Photo: Joe Corrigan/Getty Images)
Cloaked in a zebra-print makeup cape, Cecile Richards is sitting in a brightly lit dressing room and having a hard time finishing her sentences. This is partly because she keeps stiffening her upper lip so a staffer for The Rachel Maddow Show can paint and pencil it, and partly because her mind is elsewhere: She's about to go on-air to continue fighting the biggest battle she's faced since joining the Planned Parenthood Federation of America as president in 2006. "It's kind of a whole new deal," she says. "I mean, the fact that they would hold up the federal budget over birth control"-she pauses-"or women's ... I think that was ..."
It is now just past 9 p.m. on a day Richards began with a 3:45 a.m. wake-up call, a 6 a.m. flight from New York to D.C., then nearly four straight hours of satellite-radio interviews. ("I love that brush-it feels great," she exclaims to the makeup artist. "I feel like I could just take a nap.") The Maddow appearance will not be her last appointment. "We've got a ten o'clock call tonight because we've got our big vote tomorrow-obviously, the big vote tomorrow." The big vote, of course, will determine whether the government eliminates Planned Parenthood's federal funding-and though the bill is predicted to die in the Senate (and does), Richards and her team have been endlessly canvassing the Hill, just to be sure.
Now there are two blasts of hair spray and the snap of the zebra cape being removed, and Richards emerges in the political armor of a perfect navy-blue pantsuit, heels, and brooch. It is the outfit of someone who's spent decades learning the system: as a labor organizer; as the co-founder of America Votes, an umbrella group that focuses on voter turnout; as deputy chief of staff for Nancy Pelosi; and, most of all, as the daughter of the late Ann Richards, the former activist, feminist, and governor of Texas. "I swear to God," Richards says, "almost every day someone comes up to me and says, ‘What would your mother say? Would she believe that this is happening?' I mean, she really was my touchstone for pretty much everything."
After a flurry of BlackBerry checking, she leaves to wait in another room. On-air, Richards paints a scene from the previous week: "You see the Speaker of the House, the third most powerful man in America, literally phoning the president, the head of the free world, and we're on the verge of shutting down the federal government over whether or not Planned Parenthood can continue to provide Pap smears." It is her talking point of talking points: Planned Parenthood is about Pap smears, not abortion; routine women's health care, not ideological crusading.
But when she returns to the greenroom to meet back up with me and her communications vice-president, Stuart Schear, the Richards of sound bites and magenta upper lip has vanished. "So are you guys ready to take off?" she asks, giddy. "It's really creepy and dark in there."
In the lobby, she crosses paths with a heavy man in a suit, tie removed-Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts. "Hi. Cecile Richards with Planned Parenthood."
"Oh, hi," says Frank, shaking hands, then staggering past as we walk on.
Schear waits a few seconds before noting how tired Frank looked.
"Yeah," Richards says. "He did. A little under the ... under something."
We pile into a black SUV to head to the bar at Zentan, an upscale Pan-Asian restaurant, but Richards can't relax quite yet: It's ten o'clock, time for that end-of-the-day strategy call. Based on Planned Parenthood's internal projections, they'll have Senate votes in the mid-fifties. Ann Richards used to play bridge on Election Day, feeling that by then she'd done what she could. Cecile Richards will be working tomorrow, but she is now feeling good enough to let the conversation veer toward The Colbert Report.
At the lobby lounge outside Zentan, Richards's husband, Kirk Adams (they met while working as organizers), joins us. Richards orders a glass of red wine, but the lounge isn't serving food at this hour. Schear, after a lengthy search, forages some peanuts from the nearest CVS. "Stuart! A Renaissance man," she says. "You're so sweet." Richards tells me that her son, about my age, is also named Daniel; eventually she calls me "young Dan." The talk returns to family, and again to Richards's mother.
"She used to quote Edna St. Vincent Millay," Richards says. "This is not exactly right-it's definitely a bad paraphrase-but it was something like: ‘Life isn't one thing after the other. It's the same damn thing over and over again.' I think some of these fights were probably just destined to go on for time immemorial."
Richards shows me a ring on her right hand: a huge oval aquamarine. "This is my mother's ring. Whenever I'm doing something like this, where it's like Rachel Maddow or I've got to go on a heavy-duty lobby thing or something, it's sort of like ... I just channel Ann Richards."
She pauses, then straightens a bit. "But yeah. I don't really believe in luck. I'm a vote-counter. I believe in counting votes."
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I was at the health food store yesterday and found a sunscreen that is free of parabens. It is made by ALBA. Bought some but have not tried it yet.
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Maybe that is what we all need,....our own makeup artist. Perhaps we should write and ask what shampoo she uses.
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Thank u about Alba sunscreen, Sherryc. I am kind of freaked out about the SHOVE into menopause. I tried starting a thead about losing interest in sex since dx.
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Cocunut oil leaves a nice glow on the skin.
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LOL, I bought Alba products because as a teenager that was my nick. Alba means Dawn in Spanish, loose translation probably. A few smart alec's outside Spanish class started calling me Alba when out with our large circle of friends. I still smile when people call me Alba 30 years later
And it happens!Yes, the menopause shove does suck. I sweat my a$$ off a few times a day. And night. Don't miss Rosie though.
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I've been using the Shikai shampoo with blue malva for a few days now and I do like it. Smells good, too! You can get more info on their website:
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I'll be trying the new shampoo I got tomorrow. I don't do my hair every day. I'm even hoping that some of the white/gray would pick up some of the purple!! That would be way cool!!! I know it's just to tone down the brassy or yellowy colours though, but they say to work your way into how much you need. I'm going all-in!
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BarbaraA...congrats...I've been taking 20,000 IU D3 per day and mine has finally gotten to 72 !!!
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