Physical aging appearance
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I wish plastic surgery weren't so expensive. I really feel like every woman who has been through chemotherapy deserves to make an "improvement" if she wants. Because it really does tear you up, these treatments. I'm so sorry about the age comments. I would be so hurt by that. But, I can also tell you that people lowball and do the old "you don't look your age" thing all the time...and we all know that's bunk most of the time!
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I am taking vitamin D too. 20, ooo sounds like a lot . What does the number 72 refer to, luna5?
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Barbe- I was looking for the Finesse...didn't see it along my usual route. My son enjoys other Finesse products...so I'm excited for you. Let us know how it goes.
Regarding the other new products that you sisters are using to make the gray shine....by all means, blog on!
I used the "new formula" Jhirmack...We'll see. So far, I really like the Neutragena anti-residue shampoo. NOW THAT STUFF WORKS...
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Cyborg, Luna was talking about her vitamin D level. I had posted that mine was in the high 90's up from a low of 30.
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My Vit D level is 47 am taking 2,000 iu's a day. Just started and it came up 5 points in one month.
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There are several threads here at BCO devoted to Vitamin D. The most recent published study a month or two ago was a meta analysis of the existing research. Unfortunately, the bottom line is that from the existing research, they say MORE research is needed to determine what a "good" level should be for those of us who are concerned about recurrence. Also keep in mind, that the researchers noted that taking too much can cause side effects, most notably, kidney stones.
And just to clarify, a level of "30" is not considered a deficient number. While some doctors are advocating levels that are higher, to date, there aren't enough studies confirming what a therapeutic number might be. Stay tuned...should be interesting.0 -
Luna, 20,000 IU a day is WAY too much!!! A doc may prescribe a prescription of 50,000 a week for dire situations. Please, please get a doc's opinion!! As posted just above, too much of a good thing can hurt you too! I take 5,000 a day and consider that high, but my FM seems to "need" that much to help with my bone pain.
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Gaynor, at least you are married. Imagine those of us in our 40's and single (and looking 10 years older). I feel like I will never meet someone now.
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Fearless_One,
I hear ya. I'm 36, not married, look 10 years older. And I'm Stage IV, so I feel like romance and all that is just something I'm never going to have again. It's hard when all my friends are getting married, starting families, etc. I feel like I look like a grandma, but I don't have the benefit of actually being one!
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Hi all, yes Luna, get to a dr. and please don't take that much without a drs. RX!! That is way, way too high.
My GP and onc both felt my 32 was far too low for a bc patient's safety. The FDA says normal (whatever that is) is anywhere from 30-80. They felt that my 32 was deficient for my situation. A bc patient they like to see levels anywhere in the 50s and up to 80.
Taking 2,000 ius daily is the top dose for anyone, safely. Luna, is it possible that you typed 20,000 instead of 2,000, I hope?
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Anniealso... The levels you are quoting are still not evidenced based as of yet. Would be nice if they were.
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Ladies my M/O told me to take 800 iu a day......I went home and checked my multi- and it said 1,000 iu..........called and she said that was ok.........I'm hearing these really high numbers from you gals, and I'm wondering "should I take more"...........I am headed for Rads, and Femara when Rads are done, so if that helps, hell I'll do anything to feel good.............I already have Ostopenia, so I'm behind the 8 ball already...............I'm gonn ask the R/O tomorrow when I see her again (before they start Rads next week) to see what she says................I'm like a walking pharmacy now, so what the hell is another pill.......thanks girls for the heads up
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I just want to chime in with, there are two women I know well who have both battled (and won that battle!) breast cancer. Both of them are in their fifties and both of them look AMAZING. They are so happy, their eyes sparkle, they smile and laugh brilliantly - they're vibrant and healthy. Sure, they've got some wrinkles, and they don't look twenty...but if they have more wrinkles, or leathery skin, or any other deficiency caused by their experiences, I sure cannot see it for their radiance. They don't agree and often complain a bit about how much older they look - but they honestly don't. They look gorgeous. So hang in there and maintain your positive attitudes, because I truly think that is what shows up the most in your face.
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Ah Melmes, then we wouldn't have anything to bitch about!!!! This is a safe place to vent. If we don't let it out it turns to gas.
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melme, it really depends on what was done as part of the battle. some of us have aged ourselves incredibly. that does take a toll and we do need to vent. It is okay to vent and not always be "up." I appreciate that you mean well and I do agree that happiness can help you look better but it doesn't change that treatment has reallly aged some of us. I'll enjoy being grumpy when I need to be.
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Melmes, I think what you said was actually beautifully put! Thanks!!
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barbe- LOLOL. well put.
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I think the takeaway from Melmes should be we never see ourselves as others do. And that's PRE and POST cancer.
There are, actually some things that look better on me. It took 10,000 other people to help me recognize it. For instance, I truly am one of those women who looked totally blah with long hair. But...long hair is what supposedly makes us sexy, right? Well, I look younger, brighter, and better with short hair--I can even say that looking at myself in the mirror. And that's an accomplishment, I spend a lot of time criticizing my appearance down to the number of lines I have under my eyes when I smile (for real?? that is so dumb...I know).
BUT, there are a ton of things we can do. And here are some I think really help.
Vitamin D
Good sleep--I am going out this weekend to buy a new mattress pad and new sheets/duvet. All I do all night is flop around on sheets that are too big and bunch up and covers that fall off = no sleep = my colleagues all reminding me how awful I look. Thanks, gang.
Eyebrows--chemo trashed mine. I'm now brilliant at drawing them in. It's the only makeup I need--nothing compares to it in terms of how it livens up the face
Contemporary haircut--there's short, and there's granny perm. I just got something looking a bit like a faux hawk. It is fun and matches my new, somewhat more unusual wardrobe. Get thee to a good salon!
Daily exercise--I hate it. Always have. I do a morning yoga routine, or go on a treadmill almost every day. I think 20 minutes every day is a mile better than an hour an a half huffing and puffing three times a week.
Low salt--nothing shows up my bags and belly like high salt food. I really watch eating out, because they load everything with salt and sugar.
Fish oil--love this stuff.
Coconut oil for the body and hair--not sure how I made it without this stuff before.
Fewer showers--I was stripping my skin. Nothing looks older than dry, dull skin.
There are more, but these are my new staples.
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LtotheK: I agree with everything you have said. I can't tell you how many times that I have been told that I look great, but inside, I feel like crap, and therefore THINK that's how I look. Perhaps it would be wise to BELIEVE what we hear from others.0
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Well, ladies, I am no longer going to be in need of my" especially for gray hair" shampoos. On May 4, I am going to be starting on Halaven and from what the onco tells me and what I have read on the thread about it, I will be losing my hair again for sure. No wigs this time, that I am already sure of. I hated wearing a wig and am just going to do scarves and bandannas this go round. Maybe I will try to sell it on line for $58 a bottle the way those rip off artists were doing with the Pantene.
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Marybe So sorry :>(0
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Marybe... Bottle some of your courage and wit and joy and sell that! You'll make a fortune! Hugs and thoughts and prayers to you! I know you will do well on this new cocktail!
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(((marybe)))
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Marybe so sorry about losing your hair again, but I love your attitude and want to be like you when I grow up.
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Hair today. Gone tomorrow....my wig is going to be my alter ego I think.
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Barbe1958...Anniealso....Seriously??? You guys must be new on these threads.
I guess you know better than my doc who is a compounding pharmacist and a gynocologist and also a specialist in hormones. He's written a couple of books on the subject. You should call him and tell him you think the 15,000 per day he takes is too high...I'm sure he would want to know what you think. And, no I did not make a mistake...I take 20,000 per day. When I reduced it to 15,000, my level dropped. I was not suggesting this dosage to others, just reporting in. Nevermind.
that 50,000 a week you mentioned...yeah my husband has that ...and yeah most of the time the pharmacies fill that with D2 not D3 because their pharmcology books say they are intetrchangeable. Only a few women on these threads have actually gotten 50,000 of D3 with their prescriptions. Most report getting D2 which is not at all the same.
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Inspired me to get my vitamin d level blood test today. Thanks for the info.
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The current vitamin D discussion led me to pull up this explanation of the difference between D2 & D3. Not sure if it will clarify anything or add to the confusion, but I learned some things reading it, and thought I'd share it: http://www.ajcn.org/content/84/4/694.full Deanna
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