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Adhesive TAPE - help need to find non-allergic

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  • moonflwr912
    moonflwr912 Member Posts: 5,938

    add the Milwaukee area to crazy weather! We're north of that yet so got about 6 inches so far. We are double the snowfall of last year. But I've seen this before. Our mailbox on the street has been covered up many years when my kids were little. The last 15 to 20 years never. So as weird as it is its normal for this area. The bad part was I was always able to do the snowblowing if DH was out of town. But now with my knees I cant! So i have to depend on my wonderful neighbors. I feel guilty....

    Thanks for the name of the tape. TRANSPORE. I'll keep it handy. 

  • minustwo
    minustwo Member Posts: 13,359

    Tenaj - thanks for the 3M TRANSPORE tape recommendation.  Below is an interesting comparison between the 3M tapes.  I always thought Micropore was the easiest.  Now I'll look to try the Transpore.

    http://www.mcguffmedical.com/PDFs/Choose_the_Corre...

    The other one that has always worked for me (but not for others - alas) is HYPAFIX.  Description is below.

    • Hypafix is a self-adhesive, non-woven fabric sheet for
      secure and rapid fixation. It is made from white polyester material and
      coated with hypoallergenic adhesive on quick-release backing paper.
      Hypafix also provides complete coverage of the entire dressing, thus
      reducing the risk of contamination. Its excellent conformability
      simplifies shaping around joints and awkward body contours to allow the
      patient greater freedom of movement. The tape is permeable to both air
      and moisture, helping to reduce the risk of maceration. Hypafix is also
      radiotransparent, so it does not have to be removed for either
      radiotherapy or X-ray examinations.

    Hats off to all of you in the 'frozen wasteland'.  73 degrees on my back patio in Houston today.  I was soaking up rays until the rain started.

  • Trickling
    Trickling Member Posts: 295

    "HOUSTON {Space Center, MinusTwo], Chicago reporting: 73 degrees even with rain sounds like you really do NOT have a problem and by now you probably have enough extra tape for a Texas sized umbrella." 

    :-)

  • Trickling
    Trickling Member Posts: 295

    @ Moonflwr912  Offer your neighbors fresh baked goods if you are still feeling a bit guilty about your wonderful neighbors shoveling snow.

    I recently met a woman who loves to bake. A bunch of us were floored when she revealed that she has the garbage collector so spoiled by WEEKLY goodies that he returns her emptied trash can all the way into her yard!

  • GrammyR
    GrammyR Member Posts: 297

    Tenaj- so glad the Transpore tape worked for you. I was allergic to that too and when I had cataract surgery a couple of years ago I used a single eye mask at night. The elastic was not too tight and a soft gauge pad underneath.


  • moonflwr912
    moonflwr912 Member Posts: 5,938

    for eyes the Blinks eye coverings  are good. They have a formed dome over the eye so they don't press. You could put the gauze under them. 

  • codavis
    codavis Member Posts: 48

    Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but I've only skimmed the thread...

    I have sensitivity to adhesives and, like others, take band aids etc off as soon as possible otherwise I end up with a rash. During chemo, we tried everything the hospital had for my port. No matter what, I ended up with a rash. Luckily, it never lasted too long--thus, I say sensitive and not allergic.

    I've been seeing a physical therapist for a leg injury and she tried taping my leg the last two times I visited. At first I was really nervous because she wanted me to leave the tape on for 24 to 48 hours!! She said if I noticed my skin getting irritated, I should take it off. I left it on for more than 24 hours both times and, amazingly, no rash what-so-ever! It's a really strong adhesive, but didn't bother my skin at all. I did a google search, and think it might be kinesiology tape.

  • Trickling
    Trickling Member Posts: 295

    @ codavis THANKS for the alerting us to the NON-allergic characteristics of kinesiology tape. I recall noticing this tape while watching the last Olympic volleyball matches on TV. I concluded the tape was being used for very specific muscles. Because of the way the tape was positioned, I simply assumed the tape was keeping a muscle which had been hurt or prone to being hurt in place.

    When I followed up on your reference to kinesiology tape on Google web and Google images, I had a real eye opener regarding skin-blood flow-muscle and the expertise needed to apply the tape for maximum effect.

    BTW, Google images reveals it comes in various colors which become extra dramatic because of the extensive anatomical placement of the tape. The tape appears to be used more and more for preventing muscular injury.

    Personally, I am adding kinesiology tape to my list of tapes for future testing regarding its NON-allergic properties.

  • minustwo
    minustwo Member Posts: 13,359

    New month - new bump.

  • Trickling
    Trickling Member Posts: 295

    @ Everyone Today, for the first time, I actually attended the annual Special Olympics Polar Plunge.

         http://galleries.apps.chicagotribune.com/chi-photo...

    EDIT = more videos of the PLUNGE =

    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chicago%20polar%20plunge%202014&sm=12

     Okay, so I only took a "virtual" plunge and only got to see up close the "real" plungers - including our Mayor Emmanuel, celebrities, and crazy citizens - as they ran - YES WET & looking c-o-l-d - they RAN - the return gauntlet to the changing area!

    I joined the early party poopers but ever so many people stayed for partying on the beach and in the many tents set up for the event. I encountered many people who came for the partying and judging of costumes, etc.

    It was fun and everyone, including the many dogs, were smiling.

    ?? Do any of your cities have an event like this?

    I wish we had something for the Paralympics and that they would be nationally televised.

         EDIT (3/3/2014) = deleted original link (not working) = substituted link re Paralympic schedule

             http://www.sochi2014.com/en

  • moonflwr912
    moonflwr912 Member Posts: 5,938

    I think the paralympics is being televisef. I saw ads. Just not as much as the winter.  

  • Trickling
    Trickling Member Posts: 295

    @Moonflwr912 If you happen to notice Paralympics on TV and get a chance to post, feel free. Thanks for your tip. My previous post now gives a working link to the schedule of Paralympic events.

    Personally, I do not have cable and for some weird reason regularly get poor reception. However, I sometimes get pretty good reception without doing anything different with my apartment's TV & extra indoor antenna, here, in Chicago.

  • Trickling
    Trickling Member Posts: 295

    @ Everyone In the spirit of POLAR plunging, here's a link someone sent me to some GREAT SNOWBALL ART.

     http://www.yourlifechoices.com.au/news/people-with...

  • Trickling
    Trickling Member Posts: 295

    Bumping to keep this topic on the active list.

    I was going to place a link to an interesting photo to spice up your visit.

    However, someone sent me such an URGENT short video involving TAPE that I invite each of you to view it. I am sending it to everyone I can.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSJH21WmALc

    LOL

  • moonflwr912
    moonflwr912 Member Posts: 5,938

    Yes it does involve tape! But that is important info to share! Thanks. 

  • minustwo
    minustwo Member Posts: 13,359

    Wow trickling - Great information.  My son told me some time ago not to leave batteries loose in a box in my fridge (where I keep new batteries) but he never said why.  So of course I didn't worry about old batteries that I'm saving for recycling.  Wonder if painters tape would work?  Or duct tape?  Or masking tape?  Or even packaging tape?  Just thought I'd keep the 'tape' theme going!!

  • Trickling
    Trickling Member Posts: 295

    @Moonflwr912 You sure are right about that!

    @ MinusTwo If I knew I wouldn't be getting to a source for electrical tape, I'd use whatever I had. Nevertheless, only as a temporary solution.

    Today, I shall use electrical tape as I know I shall easily be able to get to a hardware store for ye ol' sticky-stretchy-INSULATING electrical tape - after doing my "voting in the primaries" with its long list of judges thing.

    I haven't used electrical tape since I don't remember when. I don't know if electrical tape is carried by dollar stores or if these days it comes in colors.

  • minustwo
    minustwo Member Posts: 13,359

    Ooooh - colored electrical tape!!

    I've been dealing w/the short, clear tape pieces they use when they "map" you for radiation.  I asked for tatoos instead of tape - and I got 9 of those - but apparently the techs can't see the tatoos correctly when lining up the zaps in the machines.  Sigh.  So I've had 9 rads tapes covering the tatoos for 5 weeks.  That's 5 weeks of showering only the bottom 1/2 of my body so all the magic marker drawings the techs have done on the tapes & the lines & dots everywhere else on my skin won't wash off.  Tomorrow they'll pull the tapes off my poor burned skin.  I can only imagine what excitement that will be.

    Probably TMI - but it's another tape story.  Most nurses & docs just don't understand our tape problems.

  • moonflwr912
    moonflwr912 Member Posts: 5,938

    They do when the skin comes off in the tape. Although the look on their faces!!!!! And the groveling apologies! !! LOL

  • Trickling
    Trickling Member Posts: 295

    @ MinusTwo I had never thought of the marking tapes as being part of the larger category of electrical tape. I've heard some patients save the tape markers . . . 

    An ocean of the gentlest quantum }}}hUgs{{{ to you on this day of searing tape removal.

    Joining moonflwr912 and everyone else in an OCEAN of SUPPORT. Please accept this real life image I came across several years ago and still immediately associate with preciousness and being part of untold galaxies. I am not kidding. I consider it one of the loveliest of hats.    

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  • Trickling
    Trickling Member Posts: 295

    @ Everyone With hindsight, I guess it was highly optimistic to think that during my first visit with my new PCP/hospital I would be able to discuss adhesive tape allergy in any depth  - let alone to possibly set up retesting my cache of adhesives under a doctor's supervision. 

    I finally had my first visit yesterday. As far as my allergy to adhesives: stating that I was highly allergic to them was about it. I don't envy doctors accepting new patients with long medical histories. My history isn't as complicated as many of yours but the doctors only have so much time and have certain priorities given their training and despite stretching the appointment time a bit. Furthermore, I realize that sometimes personalities enter into the picture especially in the beginning. 

    The long and short of this rambling is that my next appointment is in 3 months unless my blood test requires an earlier appointment. 

    I would prefer to at least chat with my PCP about testing adhesives so that the testing could at least have her on board. However, I am going let some weeks go by and may very well just go ahead and do my testing with as accurate recording as I can. One BIG disadvantage that I can see in going ahead is that it may preclude my doctor trying to contact CVS pharmacy (see introduction to this thread) or freely sharing some insights she has.

    I am at a bit of a disadvantage in that Cook County has only one HMO plan under my state of Illinois insurance. From December until 2 days before my appointment I was still trying to get my official registration status resolved. It didn't bode well to hear that many people were encountering bureaucratic problems during this new set up. Fortunately, though I was on the phone for many hours on many different days over that long period, the last supervisor I spoke with personally investigated  why the investigation department had not on more than one occasion come to a resolution. The supervisor personally phoned me that she discovered that Humana's system was in error and I could keep my appointment. 

    I admit that it is this kind of bureaucratic mayhem drains me more than some medical procedures.

    Anyway, this thread is not about me. Therefore, I hope any visitors will share their experiences regarding adhesive tape. Yes, and don't hesitate to share the bureaucratic aspect if it has been part of your experience as well. Like they say in detective stories: ThumbsUp  you may reveal important adaptation clues that you are not aware of ThumbsUp

  • Lakegirl1
    Lakegirl1 Member Posts: 158

    Trickling...3M makes one called Kind tape, it is blue.  They used it in the hospital, it seemed to help.  I tried to copy the link SpecialK put in her post, but failed. 

    I am finding I am reacting to things I have never had a problem with before...

  • Trickling
    Trickling Member Posts: 295

    @ Lakegirl1 Hi! I recall SpecialK posting good things about 3M Kind Tape. I was not successful in having medical staff act upon the following advertisement for a free sample and did not have it used on me. Also, I do not know if the link is still viable. Let us know if you how things go.

    http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_EU/Health...

    One of the insights from the very helpful postings on this thread about allergies to adhesive tape is that what does not work for one person may very work for another. Also, what does not work at a given period in a persons life may end up doing a reversal and work later on. Given not only our ongoing bodily changes that's something to consider and not give up hope.

    Another thing that the postings have pointed out is that a product produced by one company may not work but that what is advertised as the same product or having the same properties by another company may end up being the perfect solution!

    >>> You are certainly not alone <<< in having reactions where none existed before.

    I started typing this and notice that a recent post on this thread about an athletic tape used in preventing strains or in helping muscles to recover is on previous pages. In its original capacity is applied to the muscles in their anatomical configuration. Hence, pictures of volleyball athletes nowadays often show bodies with wild patterns and dazzling colors! What is of particular interest to us, is the posting by some that they did NOT have ALLERGIC reactions. I think if I try to find that post I will lose my reply to you so I am simply alerting you to the post.

    As far as searching within this thread: I do not know of a way to do a search within this thread to save time. Nevertheless, I hope you will spend some time trying to find the posts I know are here about CHANGED REACTIONS and maybe send a private message to those BC sisters as they may or may not be following this thread at this time.

  • Trickling
    Trickling Member Posts: 295

    @ Lakegirl1 The athletic tape was brought to our attention on

    Feb 4, 2014 01:24AM by codavis and is called kinesiology tape. Have some fun GOOGLE imaging it :-) I have not used it but maybe you could get a little sample from your hospital's physical therapy department???

    Edit = I just found a most interesting link re KINESIOLOGY TAPE. It states and illustrates uses for non-athletes, pregnant women, and babies!

    http://www.family-wellness.com/kinesio-taping-active-taping-for-active-people/

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 1,750

    Good Morning,

    Moonflwr mentioned this thread so I'm here to check it out. Hi Moon. Hi MinusTwo. Hi Lakegirl. Hi SpecialK. We keep bumping into each other, don't we? I had my latest PICC Line taken out yesterday afternoon and by last evening I was experiencing an intense burning, stinging pain around the edges of where the sterile dressing had been. This is my third PICC and I've had redness or little blisters show up along the edges before, but never like this. They usually just reposition the sterile dressing each week to let the "unhappy" area have a rest. Yesterday the area showed the usual irritation so after the PICC nurse took it out, she applied a liquid skin barrior that was supposed to help. I've had that before with no trouble, but this time it may have made the situation worse. She covered the spot where the PICC had been with a piece of gauze and three strips of tape. My instructions are always to leave the gauze in place for 24 hours until the opening closed.

    Well, last night the pain was like someone was holding a lighted match to my skin. I took off the 3 tape strips, kept the little piece of gauze, applied Bacitracin to the red, raised up lesions as close to the open holes as I dared, and covered it all with the white stretch mesh sleeve. The skin in the whole area from shoulder to elbow looked odd and stung, not just the red parts so that's why I think the film barrior might have made it worse. It kept getting more painful so I pulled down the mesh sleeve and uncovered it all but the air seemed to make it worse. I finally put the sleeve back on, took some pain drugs, and managed to get to sleep.

     

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    This morning the skin from shoulder to elbow feels dry, the red areas are flatter, and the burning is minimal. Why do you suppose I had a reaction like this when I didn't the other times? This PICC was in only 10 days. The first was in two months and the second about three weeks.

  • moonflwr912
    moonflwr912 Member Posts: 5,938

    Because you are getting more sensitized the more often you use the stuff. Sh*t! That's no fun. Sorry. And it is funny that we end up on the same threads! LOL. We need to  Quit stalking each other! LOL.  Not really, we need to have things start going right for all of us once in a while!!! Much love and fast healing of the d*MN tape sores!

  • minustwo
    minustwo Member Posts: 13,359

    Sandra - Sorry for the mess.  Did you try either Neosporin or Cortisone today - on the tape burn not the wound.  Not sure this is right, but guessing based on recent rads burns it might help.  You may want to call your doc first.  Hope today is a little better.  

    Try the Hypafix or Medipore tape next time.  I've only found it locally at pharmacies by a hospital or compounding pharmacies.  I take a roll of Hypafix w/me any time I go to the doc.  My friend who's husband has had a feeding tube for 4 years swears by the Medipore.

  • Trickling
    Trickling Member Posts: 295

    @sandra4611 Welcome, Sandra!

    Ooooo OUCH and scary!

    Others on this thread have more experience than I with treatments similar to yours. However, for what it is worth, the first thing that came to my mind regarding your specific question as to how this could happen when it has not happened before, was I thought it might have to do with improper application of the barrier product?

    Here is a link to a 3 1/2 min video of a nurse who is demonstrating proper some barrier products. The reason I include this link is because of the nurse emphasizes easily made mistakes in applying the products.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d28fNUiH68M

    By now, I hope you have been able to chat with medical staff prior to this reply.

    Also, I know it is a bit laborious, however, may I suggest setting aside some short periods to go this whole thread by skimming through a few of the posts at a time. Some sisters who have not posted for a while gave some very practical advice reflecting a good deal of experience. Maybe you could consider sending a private message or two?

    Hope this helps. 

     

  • minustwo
    minustwo Member Posts: 13,359

    Trickling - great YouTube.  Thanks for sending the link.

    Sandra - Trickling is our expert but she's correct that a number of people from the past had great ideas and solutions - they just don't post anymore.  Knowing how fast you read, I'll bet you've already read a bunch of the old pages.

    Moon - stalking is it?  Interesting to look at our join dates

  • Trickling
    Trickling Member Posts: 295

    You all are just too toooo much.  LWinking