Treating estrogen responsive cancer naturally
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So how did she test you? Blood, prick like allergy testing? Seems like those items are so common for inflammation. Did you lose weight with taking those items out of your diet? What about gluten free grains? Are they ok? Oatmeal? Gluten free cerial? What is it in dairy that causes inflammation?
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Brutersmom- Glad to hear. Like I said, we all need to evaluate for ourselves and not just do a global sweep of dissing the meds for reasons I mentioned already. I'm working on losing weight and dealing with the inflammation I have, and it's a lot. Blood tests showed that. So the diet of veggies and setting aside sugars, white products (rice, bread, pasta, potatoes) and organic grass fed meat when I have it is on my menu. I'm 20% chance with Tamox and am very obese, so it's a bit scary for me. I can't move well. So all I can do is diet, try to walk best I can and thankfully I tolerate Tamox. Knocking down the % the best I can, as we are all trying to do.
I'm looking at people's profiles in here who have posted it and see stage I. I'm IIIa and had a 7 cm tumour, ER 95, PR 55 and Ki67 75 so that's why I'm doing the throw all the books I can tolerate at it.
The researcher did say something that sometimes I for one can forget, esp being on these boards so much. We need to live. Occasional this and that is ok. Get out and enjoy life and don't be tied so much to digging and digging. I rather like that advice.
GL to everyone no matter what you are doing. It's a shitty hand we've been dealt and we're all trying to figure out what is best for ourselves with our profile, tolerance and ability.
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artistia I was talking to a man at the gym last week. He said he was over 400 pounds when he joined. He used a personal trainer that helped him with an exercise program and diet. He told me he lost 150 pounds. He said he could barely move when he started but he was committed. You can do it. It is hard especially with all the surgeries. Keep it up. I know people who were diagnosed stage 4 cancer and are doing great. Don't let your diagnosis get in your way.
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THanks Brutersmom but it's not my dx. It's severe osteoarthritis in my knees that doesn't allow me to walk much. THe best I can do is some air exercises to keep the joints moving so I can take care of myself with shopping and all.
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Marijen, I've been diagnosed with all of the following: Dermographism (non-stop full-body itching with welts whenever I scratch), chronic idiopathic urticaria (100-300 welts every morning), delayed pressure urticaria (painful welts and cramping 6 hours after any pressure on any part of my body), rosacea, and pigmented purpura. From what I understand, all of these tend to be inflammatory responses to some (usually unknown) trigger. Basically, my body likes to express its displeasure through my skin!
Fortunately, the chronic idiopathic urticaria responded well to 1.5 years of allergy immunotherapy, so I'm not really dealing with that anymore. The delayed pressure urticaria seems to have been triggered by artificial sweeteners (I used to be a dedicated Coke Zero drinker), so eliminating those has reduced its severity. And the pigmented purpura has disappeared since I cut out sugar. But the rosacea and dermographism remain, though they're both much less severe than they used to be.
In addition, through a series of elimination diets (supervised by my allergist), I discovered my body's responses to these foods. Dairy: sinus congestion and acne all over face. Soy: sinus congestion and cystic acne on jaw and torso. Wheat: arthritis-like pain in my joints, digestive distress. (My sister has celiac disease. I don't, but I have milder, similar symptoms.) Sugar: pigmented purpura flare-ups, oily skin, digestive distress.
So, diet has played a huge roll in my health, and my body makes it very clear when I've deviated even a tiny bit. Unfortunately, I have historically ignored what my body is telling me, but I've been very much in tune with it since my diagnosis last month. And I feel (and look) so much better when I'm careful about what I eat.
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Hi Angela, that all sounds very uncomfortable and just miserable. I am so sorry. So are all these things connected to food allergies then. Your body reacts violently to bad stuff. That's a good thing but it's overreaction. Well I can't say I've experienced most of this. I do notice sinus congestion with dairy but it's minimal. I will have to get off the wheat totally because I have been diagnosed with osteoarthritis, and TG I was never a coke drinker. Just not into soda, it leaves me thirstier than when I started. I drink water all day all night and not tap.
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Artista, agree on the fresh, wholesome food being superior to pills.
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Hi Marijen. Yeah, I also have reactions to metal (skin rash upon contact), latex (same, plus reasons to suspect a more severe allergy), some fragrances, and I'm allergic to cats, dogs, rabbits, all sorts of pollens, etc. And the smell of coffee gives me a splitting headache! You were smart to never get hooked on soft drinks.
They're a hard habit to break, but I've been off them for 6 months now and will never, ever go back. It's just water and tea for me now.I haven't really looked into leaky gut. I just know that if I maintain a strict, healthy diet, I feel pretty good. But no, I'm not thin. My BMI usually hangs out right around the line between "healthy" and "overweight", though it's trending downward right now, which is good.
I just got back from my post-surgery follow-up with my surgeon. It is officially Stage 0 Grade 1, and he got clear margins, but I will still need radiation (21 treatments). I'll be meeting with the RO again the week after next to finalize that plan.
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8. Shrimp
Is shrimp good for you? Not in my book.
Here are just a few of the health reasons I don't eat it:
- Shrimp contains 4-hexylresorcinol, a food additive used to prevent discoloration in shrimp. This additive has estrogen-like effects that could reduce sperm count in men and increase breast cancer risk in women. (24, 25)
- Shrimp farm pond waters are often treated with neurotoxic organophosphate pesticides linked to symptoms of ADHD, memory loss and tremors. Malachite green, a potential carcinogen, is often used to kill fungus on shrimp eggs. Once it has been used, malachite green will stay in the flesh of shrimp for a very long time – more than 200 days in water that is 50 degrees F. (26)
- Food and Water Watch notes that rotenone is a chemical used to kill off fish living in the pond before it's stocked with young shrimp. If inhaled, it can cause respiratory paralysis. Studies have also linked rotenone to Parkinson's symptoms in mice.
- Shrimp farm ponds are often shocked with organotin compounds to kill mollusks before stocking with shrimp. These hormone-disrupting chemicals mimic estrogen and have been dubbed "obesogens." That mean they mess with the hormonal system in a way that predisposes someone to obesity, regardless of what they eat. (27)
- Oceana found 25 percent of shrimp samples labeled as wild or presumed to be wild (often called "Gulf") were actually farm-raised shrimp. (28)
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Oops, dup
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The body's own fat-metabolism protects against the harmful effects of sugar
Researchers from Aarhus University have discovered a metabolite that reveals how the body's fat-metabolism provides protection against the harmful effects of sugar. This may explain be the chemical link between a low carbohydrate diet and healthy aging.
- Date:
- September 15, 2017
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/09/1709...
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I'm looking at bone broth powder with collagen (for arthritis)and protein, does anyone use bone broth? It's good for something I can't remember what. I ran out of whey protein so I thought I'd get away from the milk.... any suggestions. It's expensive!
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Cook bony chicken parts with water, some celery & onion & salt. Cheap collagen chicken stock, a/k/a bone broth. My homemade sets up just like jello when chilled-so lots of collagen.
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Thanks Melisa! That's a better way to go. I'll look for a recipe. Do you put gelatin in it?
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Marijen, here's a good recipe for bone broth.
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No, but you could. Freezes great. Tastes great. I always have homemade chicken stock in the freezer for cooking. Nice to have on hand when you don't feel well too.
Take your chicken out of the liquid when it is just cooked. Let it cool enough to pull it off the bones, then throw the bones back in the pot & keep boiling. Use the boned chicken or freeze it to use in something later.
Anytime I buy a rotisserie chicken I save the bones then throw the carcass in water and make broth from it too
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Angela, that's perfect. Crock pots onsale at Macys. I love broth. Any kind. Thanks
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What do I freeze it in? Glass jars? You cook a whole chicken in boiled water with the meat on? What do you use boiled chicken meat for? Burritos
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I often cook a whole chicken in the crock pot (no need to add liquid), shred the chicken, and use half to make chicken salad (add apples, celery, grapes, pecans, and non-soy mayo) and the other half for chicken soup (add onion, celery, potato, carrot, bay leaf, and broth from the crock pot). Or use some for fajita bowls with onions, bell peppers, cilantro, jalapeno, and homemade guacamole (avocado, tomato, onion, cilantro, jalapeno, and lime juice)!
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I'm getting very hungry. That sounds good, both dishes
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I haven't heard of a test like that? When do you see your dr. next? You could ask or call the lab direct and ask. Here there is a DIY yourself lab. I think it's call test any day, not sure. If I wanted to get a test on my own I could go there no order required. One time I called about a test and they gave me a price. It was for methylation gene.
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One of the latest food trends, which doesn't seem to be going anywhere, is bone broth: a stock made primarily from the bones and connective tissue of animals or fish. (The term "bone broth" is a bit of a misnomer; traditionally, a "broth" is differentiated from a "stock" precisely because it doesn't include animal bones.)
According to the book Nourishing Broth, which seems to have either launched or turbocharged the current broth brouhaha, "real" animal stock (that is, a stock not made from powders) can quell inflammation, speed healing, calm allergies and combat fatigue.
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Hi ladies!
Quick chime in.... I add collagen powder to my coffee or smoothie each morning. I take because helps with healing leaky but and digestive issues, but good for joints too. Here is what I was recommended and use:
https://www.amazon.com/Great-Lakes-Gelatin-Collage...=sr_1_6_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1506374201&sr=8-6&keywords=collagen+powder
Also, I have been reading and enjoying the book Radical Remission by Kelly Turner, which is full of hope which we all need, and talks all about changing your diet and taking charge of your health. Just passing the link to this read on....and there is a quick video you can watch on the link that tells you about the premise of the book. https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Remission-Surviving...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1506374440&sr=8-1&keywords=radical+remission
Stay healthy all!!
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Thank you MamaFelice, I was just looking for collagen powder this last week (for joint pain ). I'll check it out. The book too.
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Artista, thank you for taking the time to type up notes and post. Very informative.
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Yep, cabbage is good for you. It is also cheap and available year-round. I often eat a salad of shredded cabbage and grated carrots, dressed with lemon and olive oil.
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Sounds like we all need to make ourselves a big batch of cabbage-filled bone broth soup!
Getting my crock pot out now!
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Momine,
Try adding raw crushed garlic, mint leaves, to thedressing, and beets to your cabbage salad. It's the only way I enjoy beets. Tastes better the next day....delish!
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Hi everyone. Ive been absent from the forum because my son got married! IMO this thread should be a safe place to discuss lowering our estrogen naturally without getting judged or guilted. There are plenty of other threads about taking anti hormones. My point about diet and exercise was to say that both have been shown to lower recurrence significantly and unfortunately anti hormones can make it very difficult. I find that contradictory. I support and respect all personal decisions made. I only ask that in return. Good luck to all navigating this complicated disease...
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