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Simone....please note, the ginger has to be in a dried powder form to be effective and a certain amount has to be consumed throughout the day...enough to get mildly nauseated....
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well I am sure there is no proof that raw/baked ginger is ineffective - or is there? Or you mean that the particular person which used it used it that way so you warn us from having false feeling of security that we are doing the same as the person who had that magnitude of response done?
I have come across any opinions about various spices/herbs used in cooking having anticancer effect, ginger amongst them so likely there is some effect anyway.
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I juice ginger root and think it is pretty bioavailable that way. Mix with something bland like celery or cucumber and maybe a little pear. (You will get a head rush and break out in sweat from a raw ginger & garlic shot.) I use it in marinades and diced up root in fried rice or sauteed veggies.
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the results from the published studies point to something extremely important, gingerol and shogaol have been found to kill cancer stem cells! If that's true that's major! Chemotherapy can't kill stem cells, that's why there's an inevitable progression...
When I researched for a protocol, I could only find the specifications given on a TV show—they talked about one teaspoon of powdered ginger@ day to be consumed probably in cooked food—and I also found a guy with prostate cancer that healed himself with ginger. This is the summary of what he did. Ultimately, each of us has to do what we feel comfortable doing and share the results since we have different degrees of this deadly disease.
Summary:
Take enough gingerroot powder in four doses per day to cause mild nausea by the end of the first day or during the second day. The third and final day the nausea should be as much as you can tolerate.
Downside: Not suitable for everyone. Not proven in large trials. Will not cure everyone. Has potential for serious side effects.
Upside: Very cheap. Very fast. No radiation required. May avoid surgery.
I had previously been using fortified gingerroot powder in 500mg capsules for stomach upset. But then tried it successfully at a higher than label dosage instead of antibiotic. When I had prostate cancer and also colorectal cancer that blocked my colon, I tried ginger. I took up to six capsules (50mg 5% gingerol extract plus 450mg of gingerroot powder per capsule)[this product is no longer available], four times a day. I was very lucky. It worked!
No matter what form of ginger you plan on taking, a quick taste test can tell you if it contains either gingerol or shogaol. As long as what you are using does not contain any other spice, gingerol gives a hot taste and shogaol is about twice as hot. So if it does not taste real hot, it is not going to work.
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Ginger makes a lot of sense ... In Traditional Chinese medicine, it is considered a spice that heats and disperses energy ... and we know that cancer is a cold and blocked energy desease. The same applies to cinnamon and cloves. Yummy! 😘😘😘
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I use a lot of ginger. I throw it in my veg juice, make gingerale, ginger tea etc. I believe it helps with inflammation.
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I am thinking - with us using this and that and thinking it helps - may be it does help but like for 10-20% which is not enough to change the course of this disease. May be indeed we should take ginger for example till we are sick to stand the chance... Yes Yndorian, cinnamon was on the list of helpful stuff as well.
I wonder how is Snooky doing as I do not participate in other threads where she may be writing.
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Hi Ladies, I follow this thread with keen interest..I am on weekly Taxol and herceptin, after a recurrence of breastcancer in my liver after 2.5 years of being NEAD (I was diagnosed de novo with liver mets in 2017)...Anyway, I have something to share, not related to the fenben, but melatonin. My white blood cells have steadily been dropping since chemo started 6 weeks ago, two weeks ago they were 2.3(normal is 4), and then I started melatonin 30mg a night (I am working up to 60mg eventually)..And today my white blood count was 3.7! The only thing I added was melatonin, I have been on CBD oil since re-diagnosis. My husband brought back boxes of fenben dewormer from a recent visit to the States (I live in South Africa and we don't have fenben dewormers for dogs here), so I will revisit that road after my scan in October... I just wanted to encourage you, even though it is not the Fenben that helped my body (yet) xx
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Sonia,
That is interesting what you said about cancer blocking energy. I had my weekly acupuncture session yesterday. My acupuncturist is a old Chinese lady who I just love. She has helped me quite a bit. I told her I had a recurrence of breast cancer and it has spread to multiple areas. I never told her which side of my body had the cancer. She mentioned to me that my left side had bad energy. It's funny how she knew that was the side that had cancer.
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Daywalker thank you for sharing your experience with Melatonin. I will definitely increase my intake. I'm currently on 20mg and find it already so useful in providing a deep and restful sleep. Do you take it throughout the day? Does it make you sleepy by any chance?
I also wanted to share that my body is so far coping very well with the doxycycline—in the morning- and the statin, which I take at night. FZ with lunch and the ginger powder with every meal.
But, something marvelous has happened that I can't quite explain yet....my mind has shifted from sickness to healing...I just hope I can sustain it as like attracts like...
Anotherone and Simone...I agree stagnant physical and mental energy needs to be cleared out of our system, and I too am thinking about Snooky and Goldie...hope all is well with them..
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Daywalker, Interesting observation about melatonin! Melatonin is a hormone that controls circadian rhythms, expressed at dusk/night, and is inhibited by blue light, which is why laptop screens/TV monitors keep you awake (melatonin was designed by nature to be inhibited by the blue sky in daytime). Cancer cells in general lack a circadian rhythm, and a Nature paper came out last year showing cancers are killed by drugs that restore the cycling
https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents...
Below is a good review; Melatonin has anti-hormone activity, inhibits CDK4 and PI3K, and has many effects on immune system function including increasing NK cells and reducing inflammation.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC60177...
Breast cancers have low melatonin, so it makes sense to supplement. If we take vitamin D in the daytime and Melatonin at night, it should boost the circadian rhythm and get benefits from stronger sleep. Wonder if it helps restore neutrophil levels for those on CDK4,6 inhibitors?
Frisky, I wouldn't take it in the daytime, don't want to screw up your circadian rhythm...
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Frisky: Your mental change is wonderful! Don't look for an explanation (there are so many things we can't understand ...) Enjoy it...👍
Simone: chinese doctors are excellent. They can know what organ you have affected just by looking at your tongue. I wish they were part of the health system...
Thinking about Snooky and Goldie too
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Yes I was thinking about Snooky and Goldie also. We haven't heard from them for awhile. I hope they are just busy and everything is okay.
Frisky,
It's great that your mental view has shifted. What a wonderful side effect.
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Sonia how are u doing? I know you started radiation therapy, how's going? I hope you've got some help taking care of your parents. Hugs
Cureious, this doctor, major exponent of the Melatonin therapy, indicates that it should be taken throughout the day. He says that it's only complete darkness that activates it. When I tried, however, I did get kind of sleepy...Do you think it's safe to take 60mg all at once before going to bed?
Today, I informed my MO that after
- reviewing in details the Y90 procedure and everything that can go wrong,
- the presentation of my strand-like and unconnected ILC liver lesions,
- their failure to obtain enough dna to update its genetic profile during the liver biopsy,
That I'm too scared to undergo any treatments....I will instead give Doxil a chance to shrink the cancer..of course I feel a huge sense of relief...I hope I’m doing the right thing
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Daywalker\Cure-ious,
That is very interesting about melatonin. I take 20mg a night but I may up that to see if it will help with my wbc. Do you have any issues with sleepiness during the day with a higher dose?
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I was told 20 mg same time each night, pitch black room, cold bedroom temp. I don't need it for sleep (occasionally I forget to take it and yet have no trouble dropping off).
High melatonin intake can have a paradoxical effect and mess up sleep. Going from nothing to to 20mg, I was advised to ramp up slowly so as not to have any sleep problems.
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Frisky , you were under extreme pressure - trying to figure out something difficult and not black and white in a field in which you do not have expertise and on that something your life is quite likely to depend. No wonder when you made the decision you felt better. Besides some new ways of dealing with cancer like melatonin, doxycycline and ginger starting - it is good to think we can do something about it and scientifically proven it helps so of course it feels good. Likely some little ups and downs from your life contributed to you feeling the way you do now. I noticed you were diagnosed 4 years ago; 4 years stage 4 and not the easiest one is a huge achievement I believe. How long have you been on Doxil for and how were your scans since ( I believe your last one was like small progression in liver , stable or regression in bone - how were previous?).
Yes I was told to get to 20 mg by my doctor and do it slowly. I just ordered it. (Melatonin I mean).
Only dipiridamole and hydroxichloroquine left to order. Propranolol already bought but have not started yet. Feeling worried a bit with my low sugar and feeling a bit "spaced out" if I start hypertensive medication I may faint.
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Anotherone, I've undergone 3 Doxil infusions so far with no SE to speak of....but they are accumulative.
One night I felt discomfort in my liver area and got really scared about out of control progression and talked to my mo about the possibility of y90, but I soon realized that I can't take for granted the optimum results that some of the women experienced because they have the IDC type which presents differently. Ultimately, I don't trust my doctor's integrity and capabilities, so for now I'm gonna do what's safer.
Fighting cancer metabolically and conventionally should make a difference, and if it doesn't, I won't be able to complain about not trying. If I don't do the metabolic protocol, I know how it's gonna end...so I figured, I have nothing to lose...
It must be auto-suggestion, but I'm feeling quite different now....I haven't figured out yet what's going on....but there's something goinon....
Has your doctor explained why you have to take the additional medications, on top of the four that COC usually prescribes? Be careful....are you allowed to rotate them...how can you take them all at the same time. I space mine with my meals, but no more than two at the same time
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A bit of good, refreshing, hopeful newsfrom Joe Tippens' facebook group! A post today says,
"#positiveprogress A quick post on the positive progress I have had - Stage 4 Terminal Breast Cancer, Hormone Positive and HER-. Just had scans last week and they came back as complete regression. I had lesions in my spine, sacrum, lungs, lymph nodes, and breasts. My bones were so bad that I had malignant fractures in them, and I couldn't walk for a few months. Also had pleural effusion, and both lungs had collapsed. I've been taking fenbendazole since May along with cannabis oil, Vitamin E. curcumin, magnesium, milk thistle, Calcium D-Glucarate, Iodine, Berberine and a few more supplements I can't remember at the moment. I also take Letrozole. I do a lot of juicing, coffee enemas, and eat a very clean diet with no sugar, very little meat and no dairy. My oncologist was very surprised and is no longer pushing Ibrance or radiation or anything else. I have not told him about the Fenben. I have been taking 1 gram per day, five days a week with a two day rest period. Hope this is encouragement for someone! This is a beautiful group, and I appreciate the compassion that people have for others in this group. Much love."
She later added in the post comments:
"I did not do chemo or radiation. I tried every natural hormone blocker out there, but nothing worked because I have a very aggressive, hormone positive cancer. And I'm in my 8th year from being diagnosed, so many of the natural things I have done have worked well."
"I have been using real cannabis oil, not hemp, that has a 3:2 ratio. 3 parts CBD to 2 parts THC." and This is not NED. The scans only pick up cancer after it reaches a certain size. The cancer has completely regressed, and now I am going to continue to hit it with everything I can to try and keep it from coming back."
"My diet has been very clean since I was diagnosed in 2012, and I believe this is imperative to healing. At least for me. It seems like the combination of Letrozole and FenBen is what worked, and everything else I have been doing has helped my immune system try to recover."
"I've had a lot of bone pain, which made me think everything was getting worse. My oncologist said my bones are healing, and it can cause some pain. Other than that, I feel great."
"My oncologist said this morning that the pleural effusion is gone. They drained the fluid several times in April, then put in a permanent drain so that I could drain at home. I started the FenBen in May, and by the end of May, there wasn't any fluid to drain so they took out the drain (PleuralX). I can't say for sure what helped."
This gives me HOPE for my Mom. While I think the drastic diet change and coffee enemas will not be embraced by my Mom, her post gives me hope to continue the FenBen despite her recent progression. Love to all.
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I am popping them in like smarties
.Basically I have seen 3 doctors : oncologist - recommended D3 and B6 when on chemo; COC guys - metro/doxycycline, statin and metformin and complementary therapy doctor - recommended mushrooms, D3, berberine, qerceptine, fish oil, curcumin , milk thistle, enzymes, in addition to COC protocol and melatonin ,propranolol, naltrexone , antihistamine (keep forgetting generic name , loperamine ?), dipiridamole and hydroxichloroquine stressing two last ones but not prescribing them . Don't ask why not - I have not. She directed me to the places where I could get them from though. Graviola extract, CBD oil and aspirin I added myself reasoning until I get other anticoagulant - I have not sourced dipiridamole yet - I may as well take it and the other two are not likely to interfere with anything as they are basically herbs. The only interference thing I was warned about is not to take metformin and berberine close together. There may be something about doxycycline as well that I can not remember now...
I see , so you just started doxil. No reason to panicked it is failing you then other than just the whole thing is utterly dangerous and scary... have you checked about other possible local treatment for liver ?
I remember you commenting that one of the reasons for your mistrust in healthcare is that your kiphoplasty was not successful I have been thinking about us and doctors and expectations and right and wrong every now and again because of what you written there.
Simone , where are your lesions and when are your planned scans?
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thank you for that , Lila.
It's amazing.
I think I will try to deal with it without major sacrifices- lots of juicing, coffee enemas, THC and sacrificing dairy altogether. If it does not work I will add the listed above high effort parts. Hopefully I will have time ..
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Wonderful news Lila, thank you for sharing them with us...it’s goodto know about these uplifting stories.
May your mom be encouraged to continue with the FZ and try other complimentary therapies.
Big hug
Anotherone, thank you for posting your protocol, it's very impressive.
Metformin and Berberine are similar, they both lower blood sugar levels.
May it bring about a complete healing! Big hug to you too
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I think it was something about absorption of one of them interfered by other . Ah , I take as well boswelia resin on recommendation of the complementary therapy doctor and put frankincense oil (diluted with olive one) over my neck chest and back a few times daily.
Have a good rest of the day and evening, Frisky and thank you for hugs. Glad to read you had a good mindset change - is not it fascinating how the same set can look different depending on weather mood and lighting .. x
bedtime here.
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Anotherone,
I had 3 bone lesions which I\L took care of. One mediastinum lymph node was also resolved. I was left with a superclavical lymph node and uptake in the hila r region. Both were reduced by 50%. I don't have that much cancer in me which is why I wanted add to the standard treatment to try to get rid of the cancer stem cells now while my tumor burden is low. I know that standard treatments will eventually fail. My next PET scan is coming up on 9\16. I'm hoping for NED. It's probably too soon for the COC protocol to make any impact.
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Frisky: Thanks for asking. My parents spend a lot of time alone these days ...Fortunately my father is controlling himself during the morning. He buys groceries and cooking. My mother is stable but the neurologist increased her medication because she scratches a lot and hurts her skin (It is not a skin problem, it is neurological)
I just want to finish the rads as soon as possible and recover some energy.
Hugs❤
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Simone, you got a good plan there, hit that cancer with everything you got!
Sonia, please keep on concentrating on your health, you can't be of any help to anyone unless you do. Your parents will be okay....May you get over the rads quickly, gain energy back, and not experience any skin rash.🙏❤️❤️
Unfortunately, this news came out today:
Cancer Overtaking Heart Disease As Top Cause Of Death In More Countries
So, now we have additional proof that whatever our doctors are doing and believe ain't working...it looks as if 2 people out of 3 will be diagnosed in their lifetime...please let's continue to work together by sharing our experiences and knowledge....we need each other, and to think outside the box in order to survive this disease
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Frisky, so happy to hear you have moved into a "healing" mode mindset. I did have a similar experience on Doxil, which I started after a few back-to-back harsh treatments - Abraxane and Afinitor/Aromasin. You did come off of that awful Ibrance 2.0 trial and your quality of life since then seems to have improved astronomically from how you described that drug, thank goodness. I have also felt a major thrust into healing mode recently (I usually describe it as feeling "normal") from what I believe is the Ashwagandha. I may have more energy now than I recall having in the last 4 and 3/4 years of treatment.
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that's exactly right JFL, I'm glad to hear you're feeling wholesome again as well. God bless!
Last night I was quite joyful when I was able to finally define what I was experiencing “ physically, emotionally and mentally....I'm starting to feel like like my old self again" I thought with sweet delight...
I did increase my ashwagandha intake, and I am on the whole COC protocol in addition to the Doxil infusion...so, I guess I feel as if I'm doing everything I can to heal myself and it’s starting to work.
Also, last night I went from 20mg of Melatonin to 30mg and the results were AMAZING....I entered a deeper state of uninterrupted sleep. Woke up at 5.30 fully rested, to go to the bathroom, instead of waking up at 2-3 or 4 in the morning and listening to podcasts for couple hours....I think the melatonin is a MAJOR part of the cancer puzzle...
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Frisky- I checked with a colleague at work, he said melatonin controls the genes downstream of the "sleep" signal (ie, it executes the sleep cycle by changing the expression of genes). He says if you take it in daytime it will act as a weak "sleep signal", not very effective because it will be inhibited by the blue light (altho you are taking a lot so it may be a big sleepytime signal), and turning on genes turn on that normally want to be on during night. Although I have read that you can become less sensitive to melatonin if you take it daily, and need higher doses to feel the effects, he says he hasn't seen that in his studies.
I am excited to try this one, have only ever taken it for jet lag when flying to europe, so I know it works great for a smooth sleep. Mostly I skip the big "disorientation" I otherwise have for the first few days of jet lag. He suggests reinforcing the sleep-day cycles by linking this to feeding schedule (ie have coffee-breakfast outside, while taking in sunshine to start the day cycle and inhibit the melatonin) and then drop off the feeding at night so fasting can link with night schedule. Our bodies evolved to have regular metabolic cycles, and will even anticipate the cycles and go more easily into the changes if we keep a regular schedule.
He also said natural melatonin levels plunge when we hit 30s-40s, and are often lower in disease (ADHD, Alzheimer's and cancers), so it would not be a surprise to feel some effects of restoring all of this
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thank you Cureious for this amazing and detailed information!
since I'm already taking so many medications throughout the day at feeding time...and I experienced the most restful sleep last night, I'm going to continue taking it at bedtime for now.
I felt like I did as a child...at 30mg it was transformative....I could feel my body and mind totally dissolve into oblivion.
I woke up at 5, completely clear headed and ready to make breakfast!
I’m finding it very hard to measure 30mg on melatonin on mygrams scale...it’s just a few specks of white powder. That means that the commercially sold capsules are full of fillers.
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