Ringworm drug for dogs (Fenbendazole) might also cure cancer
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One of Joe's success stories!
This is my first post I just wanted to give everybody some positive news. I was diagnosed with a bone tumor on my clavicle in January 2019. They scheduled me for an MRI in August which I just had. The MRI showed no trace of the tumor it's completely disappeared! Now it was not diagnosed as cancer with main-stream doctors. However I sent away for a cancer test in the Philippines in Manila at the Navarro clinic and it came back positive for cancer. I was on FenBen and the protocol along with other supplements for eight weeks. I took the lowest dose 220 mg every day that I remembered. However from January through May I also juiced carrot juice a quart or more a day. All I know is that the tumor was NOT there in 2018...But it was there in January 2019 and now this August it has disappeared. Just want to give everybody a note of encouragement I totally believe in this protocol. Thanks everybody for your brave testimonies and best wishes and Healing for all of you.
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I just mapped the south west and OMG...you're not kidding ..it is very far from London! And I was complaining because it took 4 hours today between bloodwork, MO chitchat and Infusion which takes an hour...but I live 15 minutes on an express train from MSK!! I hope the views are spectacular and I hope you continue to feel good and to benefit from the current treatment. Being on Herceptin means you've already beaten the odds. I believe it's one of the few cancer medication that can works well and for a very long time.
Yeahhh Snooky! What a nice post! Thanks!
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view from my bedroom window. It is just about 3-4 hours journey but with getting to the station, leaving a bit if a window so as not to run late , getting to and from the venue etc it is 12 hours...
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beautiful views Anotherone! That sky and water must be a constant dramatic sho...I’m happy for you!
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Hello dear friends! A quick update, since it's been a while ...
My rads start on Monday . Finally! If the beginning is in sight, I am also close to finishing this part of the treatment ... that makes me happy. Then God will say how it all goes
I've been applying moxa for my kidney problem (a trick I learned from the Chinese doctor who solved my kidney failure years ago) I'm better. I have a little more energy and less cold and less fluid retention. Taking supplements helps too.
Thank you all for your concern, understanding and love. I will be again a chatty katty soon!
Anotherone: I have read the question you asked in another thread about pain ... I felt really sad ... we shouldn't have to worry about anticipating those things ... damn cancer!I hope you never have to get to that ... I hope we are all well and cured soon.
Snooky, Frisky, Nicole, Goldie, Anotherone, Bev jen, Husband, Simone, Santa ( I'm forgetting someone for sure) Love to you alll❤❤❤
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So so happy to hear your voice again Sonia, and relieved that you’re getting some relief for your kidneys. I too I’m retaining water and it no longer flows like it used to. I’m going to drink cranberry juice and see if that helps..
Good luck with your rads on Monday....I hope you get excellent care and results. The rads I got, a few years ago, did stop progression in my spine so they are worth the trouble.
Be strong and positive, knowing that you’re getting the care that you need.
we all care about you and wish the best outcome for you!
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Goldie ,
Sorry for the delay in answering your question, but I've been distracted...
I buy the FZ from amazon and find the 12 grams package to be well priced at around $16
Im taking 2gm for four or five days depending on what else I'm doing...like today didn't take it because of the infusion. I will start again on Monday. I take it with vitamin E and the Curcumin. I make sure to eat something fatty at the same meal
I bought a tiny precision scale that measures grams and its very useful since I buy my minerals and vitamins from Bulk Supplements in half pound sizes. They are pure without any additives, I make cocktails, instead of vodka in my juices I add 1gm of quercitin and two of the resveratrol, a pinch of potassium citrate and some magnesium citrate for good measure. Shake well and serve cold....yummy!
Meanwhile my Mo suspecting what a great bartender I can be has instructed me to stop taking all supplements, and allow Doxil to wreak its damages....but I feel so shitty when I don't medicate myself...I would be mindless in bed, drooling and sleeping all day, unable to take care of myself, something I value immensely....
If they only knew, what we cancer patients, will try in order to survive.
Wouldn't it be great if conventional therapies worked, and all we had to do was to follow our doctors orders?
Maybe that day will sooncome, and may we all live to see that day! Amen!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😇😇😇😇😇🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰😎😎😎
Sorry everyone for all the posting...I realized I'm on steroids and the fun it's just starting...let me guess...another sleepless night?
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Sonia,
Good luck with your radiation starting on Monday. You will do great! We will all be thinking about you.
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Sonia so glad to see you hear. Good luck on Monday (((((hugs))))) and ((((good vibes and prayers))))) sent to you!!!!
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Snooky,
Glad to hear you were able to get a couple of months of Chemo paid for. Hoping you can get you Medicare straightened out so you can put that behind you.
Another one,
That is a beautiful view from your bedroom. I was going to ask if you have seen any positive results yet from the COC protocol.
Sonia,
So good to see your post. Good luck on Monday!
Frisky,
It does suck that we all have to experiment to have any hope of beating this disease.
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Frisky, what is Y90? So very sorry your liver is giving you worry. Do you have liver pain? You are so right about only doing what the doctors say. I do my convential treatment and then what ever else I want. So I don't blame you with what all you take to make yourself feel better. That is quite the cocktail you make! I have no idea what any of that is! I don't do the curcumin with the FZ, but do take the Gamma E, Milk Thistle and CBD oil. Oh, and trying to remember the melatonin at bed time. I ablsolutely HATE taking pills.
Anotherone, your reaction is NOT stupid. We that have stage IV are concerned for our health and that of the others. It's a very scary situation as I'm sure none of us wants be in, and not ready to die yet. I know I'm not! You were diagnose in 2006 and got mets in 2019, 13 years later? I too do not have any pain anywhere and would like to be in denial! Beautiful view you have. My MO is a 4 hour drive one way, but it's a pretty drive through the mountains.
I'm not really able to do fasting as I need to eat with my Xeloda pills.
Snooky, sorry about your water issues. We have a well, so never a worry about mains breaking.
Sonia, nice to hear from you and with a little bit of good news. May it continue to get better. We all miss you. Do rest if you get tired, it's cummulative with rads and resting is important.
My Xeloda RX has expired, don't ever remember that happening and I've been on it for 4.5 years! Now I don't have enough to get me through my 2 weeks and will be gone come Tuesday. Have to see if I can have them send to me in Reno. Also need to call to see if they got the refill yesterday, or even that will have to wait until Monday. I don't mind time off from it occasionally, but did that when I was sick for those 2 months, took an extra week off then. Oh well, no use worrying about it, nothing I can do about it! Suppose to go to a party today at 3, temp at that time supposed to be 94 degrees. I hope we will be able to go inside!
Hoping no one is where Dorian is going to hit, now that's she's a CAT 4. So glad it was only a CAT1 when it hit my daughter.
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Simone, I am afraid I would not be able to tell as I have been on it for one month today only and before that I was for a couple of weeks on fenben which in total is a bit under 8 weeks - I do not think it would be enough time to be able to tell. I feel more or less the same although it is hard to compare as first I did not know I had metastasis , then I just found out I had metastasis and now I know I have metastasis so perception is bound to differ by miles . Having said that I should have my initial scan with the last scan compared on Monday so there may be some info there although I don't hold my breath - it is just about 2 months gap between them , one CT one PET, done kn different machines- if it comes inconclusive as most likely it will then we will have no info; if it comes with progression then again no info as it would be too short time for medicines to work. Only if it comes with regression (miracle !) it will give us some info.
Frisky , I figured out how I can see all posts by people on here and went through quite a few of zarovka's posts. Strange pastime after midnight for one - reading posts of deceased fellow cancer sufferer.
She was a remarkable woman and if I do not survive this for longer than a couple of years or even less I am not going to be blaming my lack of pro activity as she was very proactive and knowledgeable.
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hi Goldie,
Y90 is a procedure where they insert radioactive beads directly into the lesions in the liver through the veins that feed it. It's not curative, only palliative. It buys time, and Grannax, the Queen of Y90 got a year and half out of the procedure before new mets presented themselves.
In the midst of steroids induced alertness, last night, I studied the details of the procedure, and also my tipe of cancer which is the lobular.It's hard to imagine that I never studied the particulars of my MBC and apparently neither have our doctors. Both cancers are treated with the same drugs, although the lobular is a completely different animal.
Basically, it lacks the E-cadherin which is thought to have tumor-suppressor properties where loss is associated with carcinogenesis and invasion. It's the glue that keep the ductal cancers hanging out together and forming a well defined mass. The lobular instead, presents itself as unconnected strands that eventually spread out like a sheet that wraps or penetrate the various organs. In addition, it loves to spread into the ovaries and the digestive system, something that the ductal doesn't do. Lobular strands don't appear on pet and other diagnostic devices till it's too late...the patients reporting symptoms is what usually uncovers the cancer.
This now explains why the IR was unable to get enough DNA materials from my strands of liver lesions to get an updated genetic profile.
Having become aware of my predicament, I now wonder since I have no masses in my liver, where would these radiative beads go? They would probably wreak havoc into the surrounding tissues, and might end up causing more damages than good...
I have asked and I'm asking help from people that have undergone the procedure and that have the Lobular type cancer, or knowledge in the matter....I don't think I would get an honest answer from Msk..
This new information, will help me make decisions regarding the complementary protocols. Lobular doesn't respond well to chemotherapy, only to estrogen suppression. And, in my view, it behaves strangely like a systemic fungal infection....so I might end up taking some antifungals
Yes, Anotherone, Z was an amazing woman and her voice is sorely missed by everyone! She's taught me to become more inquisitive about therapies, instead of passively trustingmy doctors.
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In case the above link does not work for the article which is very technical and nothing about Logo is that I saw, just google this article.
Fasting-Mimicking Diet Reduces HO-1 to Promote T Cell-Mediated Tumor Cytotoxicityntioned
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I read years ago that one of the best things that we could do for our health is upon awaking, drink all the water that you can get down, first thing. Before coffee, tea, juice or whatever.
Found out my water issue is worse than I had heard. No water main break. IT DID NOT PASS THE TESTING FOR BACTERIA AT ACCEPTABL LEVELS. I do not know when it was last tested.. So I have no idea how long I've been drinking contaminated water.
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indeed if there are no masses to target then where beads would go .
Frisky, from looking at these boards I noticed that ILC seems to be on the worse side of metastatic BC - however strange it sounds with regard to a condition which is as bad as it gets.. wishing you cool head and sharp mind in figuring what to do.
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Frisky, I'm confused. Didn't you talk about a breast tumor that disappeared when you were on hormonals?
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Hi snooky...yes, I don’t have a palpable tumor in my left breast anymore and the dimple has completely disappeared. I have, however, lesions in my liver that could be progressing. Those are deadly.
There’s a short window of time to get some sort of procedure to take those tumors out, and I’m not sure I have enough time for FZ to work on those.
My recent awareness of the nature of lobular cancer, is something that is upsetting my plans because it moves unnoticed till it’s too late...and I now understand why I suddenly had lesions in my liver that seemed to pop out of nowhere. I’m also concerned about the fact that it could be moving and affecting my digestive system....
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hugs , Frisky. That " could be" is bad , once doubt and suspicion have enough reasons to be they are relentless
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Frisky, My heart goes out to you. Did you ever do a heavy metal chelation? The following article is from a great site. Have you ever heard of Hydrogen peroxide IV therapy? Or a Foot Ion Cleaner? The site below is great but the posters comments to the article are FULL of good info. Have you read Lorraine Days story? she has a book out and a blog I think. A 4 time cancer survivor.
Goldie this article explains in great detail benefits of Milk Thistle.
https://thetruthaboutcancer.com/milk-thistle/?fbcl...
So many others have healed themselves of cancer, and SO CAN WE.
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hi Snooky, I've spent the past couple days reading 26 pages of posts regarding Y90 to see if anyone else with lobular had good response. I couldn't find a single case! Bummer!
I will continue with the healing process, now I'm better equipped because I know a little more about what I'm dealing with. I watched a long symposium on lobular breast cancer and learned a lot.
It will help me fine tune the COC protocol to target the lobular which apparently responds best to estrogen suppression and not much to chemo.
Tomorrow, I'm resuming the FZ protocol. For the past few days I've been eating a lot of fruits and cranberry juice to flush the chemo out of my kidneys, and now the waterworks are as good as new and the flow is verystrong again.
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Frisky: I'm glad that your "pipes" are working well. It is so important!... From what I saw, Fenben does not distinguish between lobular, idc, etc. I really hope it does his job with you. You are in my thoughts and prayers 😘
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thank you Sonia for that reassuring information....I was thinking about you when I went from feeling so blocked in my kidneys to resuming my normal flow. I've been drinking a lot of fluids, lemonades and cranberry juice...it seems to be working. I hope you're feeling better too and that the currentcrisis in your country ends soon! Hugs
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I have received the statin and the doxycycline in the mail today....I'll be start taking the statin tonight. It's low dose, hopefully my md will increase it next month....my COC adventure begins
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God Frisky, I hope that you know that I/we wish you the very best of success on the protocol. You are always in my prayers!
HUGS
My older brother was in town (from N Carolina) he and his wife work as salespeople for a cruise line. He said when I "get over this" I have a free cruise coming. Wouldn't it be wonderful if some of us could all go together?
This country bumpkin needs someone to show me the in's and out's of hob-knobbing.
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what a great plan...we could call it FZ cruise! I'm all for it!
Ginger and Cancer: How A Compound in Ginger Could Kill The Root Cause of Cancer
A 2015 study published in PLoS reveals a pungent component within ginger known as 6-shogaol is superior to conventional chemotherapy in targeting the root cause of breast cancer malignancy: namely, the breast cancer stem cells.
Cancer stem cells pose serious obstacle to cancer therapy as they can be responsible for poor prognosis and tumor relapse.
To add into the misery, very few chemotherapeutic compounds show promise to kill these cells. Several researchers have shown that cancer stem cells are resistant to paclitaxel, doxorubicin, 5-fluorouracil, and platinum drugs [8, 16]. CSCs are thus an almost unreachable population in tumors for chemotherapy.
Therefore any compound, that shows promise towards cancer stem cells, is a highly desirable step towards cancer treatment and should be followed up for further development."
The researchers identified a variety of ways by which 6-shagoal targets breast cancer:
- It reduces the expression of CD44/CD24 cancer stem cell surface markers in breast cancer spheroids (3-dimensional cultures of cells modeling stem-cell-like cancer)
- It significantly affects the cell cycle, resulting in increased cancer cell death
- It induces programmed cell death primarily through the induction of autophagy, with apoptosis a secondary inducer
- It inhibits breast cancer spheroid formation by altering Notch signaling pathway through γ-secretase inhibition
- It exhibits cytotoxicity (cell killing properties) against monolayer (1-dimensional cancer model) and spheroid cells (3-dimensional cancer model)
It was in evaluating the last mode of 6-shagoal's chemotherapeutic activity and comparing it to the activity of the conventional chemotherapeutic agent taxol that the researchers discovered an astounding difference.
I posted more links and information on the liver mets thread....very important information
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Frisky--thanks for posting the ginger information. I had not seen that before. All--there were lots of questions on here about COC protocol and just in case anyone on here is not aware there is a Facebook group called: Repurposed Drugs for Cancer Treatment. Many on there are following either Jane's protocol, Joe's and/or working with the COC. It is a treasure trove of information about all 3 options IMO. There are 2 other sites mentioned on there that are supposed to help support patients in making decisions about treatments--you all may already know these, but just in case you do not--they are: cancercommons.org and https://www.global-cures.org/. They are organizations that will review treatment plans and advise on options for no charge per the posters on that Facebook page. Cancer Commons site says: "We help patients, physicians, and providers identify and access personalized treatments that are beyond the standard of care. We continuously learn from every patient, sharing life-saving knowledge to benefit many others." Global Cures site says: "Our team searches published scientific papers to identify and prioritize re-purposed drugs, nutritional products and lifestyles that may be of value to cancer patients."
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thank you misticalcity, your timing is impeccable in providing important links to information and experiences by other groups and people that are dealing with the same issues and having to make similar important decisions...
I will review them with great attention. ...
I see you’re also an ILC fellow....as you know, we’re in the minority...ILC is very receptive to estrogen, so do your best to stay on that anti hormonal as long as possible
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thank you both.
So I had pet scan done 2 months after my original diagnostic CT scan. No conventional treatment, no progress in lesions. Interprete it whichever way - most likely too short a time span to tell anything plus scans were different and on different machines . May be my immune system is responsible for holding it. May be lifestyle change and COC protocol/fenben helped. Ideally I would want to continue with no conventional treatment and reassess in 3 months but I do not have guts to do it; besides it may be plain reckless with the amount and size of lesions and their proximity to vital organs - my chest is stuffed with them. If oncologist was supportive though instead of saying I have 50% chance of having a life threatening event within the next 4 months if I don't do conventional treatment like superior vena cava syndrome for example I might have tried it but alas she is not.
Thank you for the link to a website, I will try it. I do not participate in Facebook groups for privacy reasons mostly.
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Thanks Frisky and Misticality for the info. I drink ginger tea all the time so maybe that is helping. The FB links will also be helpful as I just started the COC protocol and would like to get more info about other supplements to take with it.
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