I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

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  • pingpong1953
    pingpong1953 Member Posts: 277
    edited October 2022

    From what I've heard, there's no love lost between Andrea Mitchell and Nancy Pelosi.

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,363
    edited October 2022

    I live in PA and this is not a place for the wizard of oz. He is a shyster, snake oil salesman now claiming that he can destroy the cartels and handle drug addicts since he has experience with drug addiction. Unless I am wrong, he was a cardiothoracic surgeon so what ever experience he had with drug addiction had to either be a personal, or familial. Cardiothoracic surgeons in general have no part in drug addicts care unless they are assessing them for cardiac issues. The day to day care he implies he has experience with is as delusionary as the content of his books and the magic potions he hawked on his shows. He is prolife and his stance on abortion changes like the wind as do other of his promises. I hope he loses big time and moves back to his real home in NJ. Here he is living with his in-laws and not in the home he purchased which is uninhabited because it needs restoration but no contractors have been seen. What a blowhard.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,711
    edited October 2022

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited October 2022

    Former President Donald Trump signed legal documents describing evidence of election fraud that he knew were false, a federal judge indicated on Wednesday.

    U.S. District Court Judge David Carter wrote in an 18-page opinion that emails from attorney John Eastman, an architect of Trump's last-ditch effort to subvert the 2020 election, needed to be turned over to the Jan. 6 select committee. Those emails, Carter wrote, "show that President Trump knew that the specific numbers of voter fraud were wrong but continued to tout those numbers, both in court and to the public."

    The emails are among the files that Eastman had been declining to turn over to the committee, citing attorney-client privilege. While Carter concluded that some of the materials fell under that privilege, he ruled that Eastman must disclose four emails to congressional investigators because they are evidence of a likely crime.

    "The Court finds that these four documents are sufficiently related to and in furtherance of the obstruction crime," wrote Carter, who is based in California.

    Read the latest


    This is music, at least to Democratic ears, but it seems Loon always has something up the sleeve as a stall tactic. I hope that is not possible in this case. At least this is indeed out in the public domain.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited October 2022

    I almost didn't put the above in here. I think it is a matter in part that we have all known for such a long time that the Loon is and was a fake president. So we all know these things were and are true and just waiting for the shoes to drop on all of it. It is an exercise in huge frustrations not to mention the ulcers one may slowly build from the crescendo that is taking so long. In the end, even if the Loon were soundly rejected it would take a few elections to wipe all of the Loon nonsense and damage out. I think for me as mentioned before, I yearn for his downfall because I'm tired of his being a daily life subject.

    I had no idea that one day I'd yearn for some of those days that I was almost bored because people on both sides pretty much acted as ones with not only brains but consciences to boot. Now everyday can be a heartburn day and we are all weary of staying alert so as to head off the worst of what the Reps. will come up with to try to get and keep power and control through whatever means.

    Hope enough people will GET that they hitched themselves and the success of their party to a fallen loser long before he took an oath and that they could lose a lot more which is what we are all hoping and working for now.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited October 2022

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited October 2022

    New Woodward audiobook shows Trump knew Kim letters were classified

    'Oh, those are so top secret,' Trump said at one point, undermining his frequent claims that none of the material he took after leaving office was sensitive

    Image without a captionBy Ashley Parker

    October 18, 2022 at 1:35 p.m. EDT

    President Donald Trump meets with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un at the North Korean side of the border at the village of Panmunjom in a demilitarized zone, on June 30, 2019. (Susan Walsh/AP)Listen

    5 min

    In December 2019, after President Donald Trump had shared with journalist Bob Woodward the fawning letters that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un had written to him, the U.S. leader seems to acknowledge he should not be showing them around.

    After urging Woodward to "treat them with respect," Trump warns in an interview, "and don't say I gave them to you, okay?"

    "But I'll let you see them," Trump adds. "I don't want you to have them all."

    A month later, in January 2020, Woodward pressed Trump in a phone call to let him also see the letters that Trump wrote to Kim. "Oh, those are so top secret," Trump says, according to notes of the call taken by Woodward and highlighted in a new audiobook: "The Trump Tapes: Bob Woodward's Twenty Interviews with President Trump."

    In hindsight, the comments by Trump show he was well aware that the 27 letters exchanged between himself and Kim were classified, despite his repeated claims that none of the documents he improperly took from the White House when leaving office, including the Kim letters, were in that category. The FBI and Justice Department this year executed a court-authorized search of Trump's private Mar-a-Lago Club and residence — turning up 103 documents marked classified and roughly 11,000 not marked classified as part of an ongoing criminal probe into Trump's handling of sensitive material.

    The new details also provide further evidence of Trump's abiding obsession with the Kim letters, which he often bragged about and would show off to friends. The English translations of the letters, which Woodward includes as an appendix to a written transcript of the audiobook, shows page after page of pen-pal niceties — birthday tidings, "best wishes" for friends and family — between the then-president and the autocratic leader of one of the world's most repressive regimes.

    The audiobook, which comes out next Tuesday, contains 19 raw and lengthy interviews Woodward conducted with Trump between fall of 2019 through August 2020 for his book, "Rage," as well as one interview he conducted with Washington Post reporter Robert Costa in 2016. The interviews, Woodward says in his introduction, were edited only for clarity.

    During the December 2019 interview, Trump asks Woodward what he did with the letters he had provided him at that point, asking if he made "a Photostat of them or something" — apparently referring to a photocopy.


    "No, I dictated them into a tape recorder," Woodward replies, to Trump's amusement.

    In an interview with The Post ahead of the audiobook's release, Woodward said Trump helped set him up with an aide in the West Wing, who supervised as Woodward — who had been given both the English translations and original Korean versions of Kim's letters to Trump — handled the documents and dictated them all into his tape recorder.

    Later, after Trump agreed to share his letters to Kim, Woodward said he returned to a West Wing office, where an aide again watched as he read the new set of letters into his tape recorder.

    In the interview, Woodward also said he observed no classified markings on any of the letters he was given, though U.S. officials have indicated that they were classified documents.

    In an aside in the audio book, Woodward describes "the casual, dangerous way that Trump treats the most classified programs and information, as we've seen now in 2022 in Mar-a-Lago, where he had 184 classified documents, including 25 marked 'Top Secret.'"

    Trump shakes hands with North Korea leader Kim Jong Un at the Capella resort on Sentosa Island in Singapore on June 12, 2018. (Evan Vucci/AP)

    That was in reference to Trump implying there was a secretive weapons system he controlled. "I have built a weapons system that nobody's ever had in this country before," Trump said in an interview, before referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping. "We have stuff that you haven't even seen or heard about. We have stuff that Putin and Xi have never heard about before."

    Trump's long obsessions with strongmen leaders — and Kim in particular — comes through in the interviews. Throughout their conversations, Trump repeats the false claim that former president Barack Obama tried 11 times to reach Kim with no success.

    Woodward points out that Trump's own military advisers have warned him that Kim "lies through his teeth to you," and that Obama made no attempts to speak with Kim himself.

    "Kim Jong Un gave you bad information on that," Woodward tells Trump at one point. "I don't think that's true."

    But Trump is not persuaded, choosing to believe Kim over his own advisers.

    "Obama called 11 times," Trump insists. "They showed me the records in Korea. I'm very close to this man. Very close."

    In a later interview, Trump boasts that he averted a war with North Korea, again repeating his false claim about Obama and choosing to believe Kim over his own military team: "Obama wanted, 11 times he tried," Trump says. "Kim Jong Un told me. Eleven times."



    I bought and read the book " Rage " but for some reason do not recall that there were actually 27 letters to the Loon from Un. This really brings home again the message that the Loon will listen to no one if it goes against how he wishes to see events as well as relationships which he seems always to favor those more dictatorial and adversarial. Also that he was never interested in what behooved the people of the United States but kept everything on a level that was mainly suitable to someone on an individual level that mainly benefitted that individual. Meanwhile, Reps. just ate it up. You can guess the last sentence if I were to write it. Yes, it goes something like this: Choke on it now until you can't breathe anymore and I hope it was tasty.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
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    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited October 2022

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited October 2022

    Here is a thought and a half for you:

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited October 2022

    May be a cartoon of 2 people and text that says 'BREAKING NEWS Donald Trump has OFFICIALLY been served with Attorney General Letitia James' 220- page $250 million fraud lawsuit after he dodged process servers for weeks. CALL TO ACTIVISM'

    Always his whole life he has run from accountability, because he cannot identify with people he does wrong and hutrs. They just don't exist for him so he works hard to just ignore all of those faceless bodies.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited October 2022

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    He may not be found guilty, I don't know, but he would be found liable and that is good enough for me since I think for the Loon losing all of his so-called money would be as bad as and likely way worse than a conviction of guilt. He likely won't go to jail on this, but if his money is gone, he's finished, and the last little shred of any sanity would go right out the window as well.

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    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
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  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,711
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  • cardplayer
    cardplayer Member Posts: 2,051
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    cardplayer Member Posts: 2,051
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited October 2022

    As long as there's that us-ness and me-ness and you-ness, there will
    never be an all of us together. What we need to do is go up in a
    spaceship together and look down at Earth and recognize that
    we are all inhabitants of this fragile little planet. Instead of looking for
    the things that separate us, instead of building more weapons to destroy
    us, we must begin looking for ways that we can all get along.

    Wayne Dyer

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited October 2022

    Sometimes there is nothing new, but I think it had such a great ring to it she didn't care to KNOW the truth about it.

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    Hope Karma comes to see you soon too.


  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited October 2022

    THU, OCT 20TH, 2022 BY JASON MICIAK

    Trump Lashes Out Dangerously at Judges and Juries After Key Durham Acquittal

    The MAGA response to the acquittal of Igor Danchenko came as a surprise to many of us on the Left. Very few of us followed the Durham investigation (there wasn't a lot to follow), few very of us thought there would be much to come of it, and most of us believed that the FBI is incapable, nor desirous, of a widespread conspiracy to keep Trump out of office. Many of us believed that the FBI was doing its job in checking on the counterintelligence concerns with Trump. But it is a completely different story in MAGA land, where there was an absolute conviction that large sections of the "Deep State" were certainly out to get Trump, and Durham would round them all out and expose the plot. Now they're lashing out. We have seen it out of Spicer, Cavuto, the NYPost, and others, and now, we're hearing it from Trump. Only it's far more dangerous coming straight from the leader. Via Truth Social:Advertising

    The disgraceful judicial system was on full display yet again with the Danchenko Verdict. Durham could not get a fair shake in the Swamp of biased and partisan juries, where you are told that no Republican based or supported case can be won no matter how good it is, & judges that are so biased, unfair and angry that it is literally dangerous to be in court! I was told by many that Durham's case was a great one but he has ZERO chance of winning in "that Court." Sorry Justice Roberts, but so true!

    The bolded are words of war or at least serious strife. If things were reversed, and we genuinely believed the above (as opposed to it being a conspiracy theory), wouldn't we be looking for ways to cure the problem non-violently?

    Many on the MAGA Right are prepared to "fix this" violently. Notice how Trump frames it as "Republican-based or supported"? He means Trump's favorite cases. All non-Trumpers are RINOs. This bomb of a post is meant to serve two purposes. One, he's furious that no one is finding this Russian hoax because deep down, at the very least, it isn't a hoax, just as the Republican Senate Intelligence Committee quietly found. Second, and much more importantly, Trump faces so many court cases now, just out of the E. Jean Carroll deposition, already defending the New York A.G. case, and with possible criminal charges coming from the IRS in New York all the way down to U.S. District Court in West Palm Beach. The more Trump can cast the judiciary as rigged.

    Ultimately, just as with elections, Trump wants to undermine any element of government that doesn't go his way and damned the consequences. This is the "great man" we're talking about, the savior to the disenfranchised cult, terribly fearful of a country headed into a new age of pluralism. It is the Article Three attack to go along with the First and Second.

    It is a grievance, one meant to convey that they no longer have a country anymore. There is no redress short of violence. That is the message.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited October 2022

    I want to be thoroughly used up when I die, for the harder I work the more I love. I rejoice in life for its own sake. Life is no brief candle to me; it is a sort of splendid torch which I've got a hold of for the moment, and I want to make it burn as brightly as possible before handing it on to future generations. -George Bernard Shaw

  • cardplayer
    cardplayer Member Posts: 2,051
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    4 months!

  • miriandra
    miriandra Member Posts: 2,211
    edited October 2022

    Far less than he deserves, but the math is easy to follow.

    "Hmm, if I ignore the summons, I get a couple of months in jail. If I turn over the evidence, I could face years." - "I'll take 'Obstreperous Actions' for 120 days, Alex."

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,363
    edited October 2022

    Good one, miriandra. He can opt for the couple of months while they find additional evidence ythat will result in years. Oh, happy day!

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited October 2022

    May be an image of text that says 'Middle Age Riot @middleageriot I'm not saying Steve Bannon should die in prison. I'm saying we should give him the chance.'

    A very soft sentence, indeed. OTOH, someone pretty close to the top finally went through indictment, trial and sentencing. Wish they could have hauled him off right there. At least, it did serve notice, especially to those who were neck deep with the Loon (some even in the WH like Mark Meadows) if they might have to consider the things they did and if they think/hope to stay out of the slammer.

    Bannon will however use all this for his big-boy he-man, podcast.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited October 2022

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited October 2022

    The Loon worked for us and he deserves that shirt as much as anyone else in this whole sordid affair.

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