Im bitchy, I moan, I groan.....anyway.
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Vickie: Tamoxifen & weight gain....I know all about that. I was on Tamo one week and went up to my highest weight in two years!!! Just for one week!!
Any chance you can do femara??!!! Do you still have active ovaries? Why not have an oophectomy. Femara is a nice clean drug with very few side effects. I had a little trouble with my ankles aching a little at night, but then I started supplementing my diet with Vitamin D, Tums , and glucosamine-condroitin (sp?) and I am fine...no aches at all!!! The flashes are diminishing gradually over time. And no weight gain!!!
Make sure you keep things movin' inside & out. Lots of water. A dose of Metamucil once a day can keep you comfortable & regular & thin!!!
Miz
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otter (I love your name btw... my junior high school mascot was an otter) -- I am GLAD you are feeling better! Screw the thread! You are an honored member of this thread for what you've been through already!
Nickster -- Ok, your man does all the cleaning?? Now I'm ready to go off on another rant. My man RARELY cleans anything, including the messes he makes! He's perfect in every way except for that. Honestly, his refusal to get dirty has made me question our relationship more than once. Where is it written that it's a woman's job to do all the cleaning? I know that's the "old fashioned" way but these aren't old fashioned times. We both work full time, but I have 2 days off per week, and he has 4!! GRRRRR Don't get me started!
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Thank you Miz...I will give the Metamucil a try and I am switching from my GingerAle to water.
Would love to get the ooph but my oncologist disagrees...gonna argue with him about it in May LOL. No periods for a little over two years now...think my ovaries are done (hope so anyway) but he is being super cautious and making sure it isn't chemopause instead of regular menopause.
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Ok guys, I have been dealing with this moon face and bloating. Everytime I looked in the mirror, I looked familiar. Well, I just flipped over to watch Ghost Hunters and it hit me. I look like Jason from TAPS. He is the one on the right. I swear I am now a dead ringer for him minus the eyebrows. That's my gripe for the day. I no longer wear hoop earrings because then I look like Mr. Clean.
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ooops...I mean left. you know the other right.
Debbie
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (((((((((((Debbie)))))))))) I think we have all looked very much like that guy at one point! Especially the look on his face. That's EXACTLY how I look when I know somebody's about to say how cute my hair looks short!!!! Are his fists curled up?????Vickie....my docs took out my insides so fast it made my head spin. They were like...o.k. when is she gonna be healed from the BLM so we can gut her???? Man, it freaks me out how different our dr's are!Anybody ever heard of SLA? I hadn't until tonite with the girls at dinner. One girl's husband got caught paying a $50 whore. Well, come to find out....he's got an addiction to sex....something my friends friend doesn't appreciate but, they have a 9 month old so she agreed to go to Sex, Love, Anonymous. WTF???? Man, sometimes I am sooooo glad I'm not married!: - )0
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Carol - hire help. Split the cost. It is NOT your job. Don't accept it - especially if the dude only works three days! Have someone else come in - if he squawks about it, say "Well, I'm through with doing it, so if Lucille is not going to do it, are you volunteering?"
Tell him his Neanderthal attitude SUCKS!
Otter - I'm relieved you are seeing movement in the right direction with your medical morass. Keep right on them!
I had to miss my yoga class yesterday (and it's only one day a week for 90 min.) because I was stuck in a grocery line behind an imbecile, being checked out by a moron. AND she (the imbecile) at the last moment got out a wad of WIC (Women, Infant and Children's program) coupons that have to be individually matched to the qualifying grocery item, then each coupon individually run through the machine for approval. This complex process required 30 minutes for the moron. Fortunately, I had no ice cream in my cart. Also fortunately I am, by nature, a patient person - I didn't slug anyone. But my class is not one where you can arrive late, so I did pout. When I got home I picked a fresh lemon and had a large vodka tonic. Not as healthy as my yoga class, but I did relax.
Lisa
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Traci - an addiction to sex? Yeah riii-iight. In other words, the dude is horny and doesn't want to keep it in his pants! And how dare they call it Sex, Love Anonymous. What's LOVE got to do with it (to coin a phrase)?
Just like kids (usually adolescent boys with incompetent parents) who are diagnosed with 'Oppositional Defiant Disorder' - an ongoing pattern of uncooperative, defiant, and hostile behavior toward authority figures. Gee we used to call that misbehaving! Put 'em in the Marines and see how they do!
Lisa
sorry, not very sympathetic this evening
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I'm starting chemo in 2 weeks and everyone keeps telling me how great it is when your hair grows back curly. Even my sister - said her neighbor looks "so cute" with her curly hair. and these people that look at me cross eyed when I talk about wearing a wig - "oh they look so wierd". Yeah, well you try being bald for a while!
I also hate hearing about so and so's friend who had cancer and is still alive after 5 years. Give me a break - I was hoping to last a lot longer than that!
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Lisa, your story of the checkout line just cracked me up!!
I've been feeling so bummed today - I ate two bowls of Froot Loops for dinner - and after reading that lovely story, I laughed out loud and now feel better. Thanks, Girl!
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Lisa.,..........LMAO!....the grocery store story....lol! When I first starting working from home, well not at first but sometime eventually thereafter I thought...I bet the grocery store isn't busy on Tuesday at 10:30 am! So, I went. And, I parked right up to the best spot and....I didn't have to say "excuse me" to one person I bumped into to....it was great! Then....check out time....a long time ago some old and wise person told me "Traci, don't look at the line, look at the checker". (Very good advise, it has almost always worked for me until that day. They had Humpty, and Dumpty and Sleepy workin' the lines. That was it. By the time I got to put my food on the belt, I was poppin' another xanax. OMG!!!!!!!!!! Or, (I really wanna get hip like you guys and start saying WTF????) lol! It took me 30 minutes what would have normally took 25 minutes on Friday at 6:30!! WTF???
And, Dansmon, I gotta tell you....that was the worst part for me. It was. I did the surgeries (all three of them) I did the chemo for four months...they all sucked but they sucked nothing in comparison to losing my hair. Mind you, I am not a rock star and was always a one man kind of women and I was wash and wear and low maintenance make up, blah, blah, blah....but I had a real hard time with my hair loss. I still do! I finished chemo 8/07 and I have just enough hair to piss me off. Now mind you, this is 1000 times better than being bald but the whole entire process just SUCKS (I wish I could think of something clever her....Madison could!!) anyway. It all sucks really, really bad.
If you go back a couple of pages you'll see a lady knocking out another lady with her fist well, that's what I want to do when someone I knows tells me how "cute" I look with this rediculous, unwanted hair cut from (stolen qoute) Oklahoma Oncology!!!!!!
k...GNO got me ramblin. Gotta go nighty night.
Luv Y'all tons.
There better be some worse stories tomorrow before I get my scan results back!!
Hugs, Traci
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Traci - somehow missed this thread, not sure how it happens.
It sucks that oncologists underreact and that your PCP had to call him to get him to order a PET. It sucks that you, a patient, had to instruct the PET needle-stick guy in how and WHY to stick the foot, not an arm or two. Sheesh.
And now it sucks that you're waiting for scary test results.
It sucks that I've had to deal with a test result anxiety-ridden anticipation or the decision to have a test every since I got out of radiation: brain MRI, sinus cat scan 1, sinus cat scan 2, mastectomy scar lump scar ultra-sound, whole chest ct scan for aching collarbone. Which, btw, it sucks rocks that that c/t scan came back with the collarbone obscured. WTH? The whole point of exposing myself to that radiation was to look at my collarbone. So now I have to decide on a PET scan or a bone scan.
Minor suckage here - I'm sick and tired of being ER+ and not having dairy or soy and there being little to no latte options out there for me. What the heck? Haven't you all heard of say, almond milk? Rice milk? I know hemp milk is a stretch, but don't several million women a year deal with breast cancer and aren't 70% or so of them ER+, which means no soy?!! And no dairy as I understand it if you're doing that nutritionally-conscious thing, which I'm trying to. Sheesh. No need to laugh at me, just say, yes, it's ok to bitch about the little things.
The major major suckage: I HATE it every time I log on and someone here has died. Sorry to rain on the minor suckage parade, but Joanne's death has made me so very, very sad. Cancer S.U.C.K.S. It is SOOO NOTTTTTTTTTT a blessing. The next person that says that to me I may have to punch.
And yes, the whole femara thing is making me a little irritable. Which sucks as well.
My favorite song these days: Lincoln Crockett's song about "I feel so bad." It goes on and on in all the ways he feels bad, and by the end you're laughing because after a while after you get out the feeling-so-bad feelings things start to feel better. But trying to make them better doesn't work, no sirree, he's a wise one, the way to actually feel better is to really feel how truly bad it feels, how much things can really suck. Hence the reason this thread works.
So thank you Traci for this thread.
I want to know your PET scan results as soon as they get them. Like tomorrow.
Night all, hugs to you all,
amanda
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Well - my little whine today isnt about bc at all! More snow is on its way to Chicago! I want Spring and I want it now.
Amanda: Hemp milk? OMG! I think I would try it!
Traci: Hmmm the only worst story I can think of is that despite being sick DH is up, moaning and groaning - taking out garbage, and making breakfast! This is my private time and now I already have a headache. And Im not hungry either.
Dansmom: Yes yes, isnt it grand for others who have never experienced it to tell us what it will be like having your hair fall out. I mean really. At least be honest and say its sucks losing your hair.
Lisa: Grocery store lines? I wont even go there. Had my own little experience myself yesterday. I always wonder why it is I who picks up the item that doesnt have a price marked on it. And why it takes price checking to take so long.
Debbie: I certainly remember the Mr. Clean look! People had the audacity to tell me I looked stylish! Grrrrr!
Carol: Since my husband is a musician! And only works as a musician! And has never worked full time at anything for our 30 years of marriage! And I had to work full time during chemo just so we could pay our bills! He better do the cleaning!
Vickster: I hate to tell ya this, but the bloating isnt from constipation, although I would certainly love to use that excuse. Another gift from bc. Changed the way some of us metabolize food. Or should I just say it just slows our metabolism. And with the new styles, short blouses, low cut pants - my belly sticks out like a balloon.
Traci: Oh your description of the tech with bad breath was a good one. Why is it we have to remind everyone about blood pressure and blood draws? I had the wonderful experience of going to the new and improved breast cancer center at my hospital for a bone scan. After breaking a couple of ribs, mets ruled out, they wanted to make sure I didnt have osteopororis. I walk in, wait 5 minutes while 3 girls behind the desk are talking about what they had for dinner the night before - finially cleared my throat to get there attention. The girl says to me - want a mammogram while your here. I looked at her and said is that my file your looking at right now? She said yes, then I said, well thanks for reminding I dont have breasts anymore. What a beatch she was. So much for that great new breast cancer center.
Donna: I like the tattoo
OK - time to hit the road. The smell of bacon is making me want to puke.
Nickster
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Donna I love the tatoo.
weight gain are yoou kidding me
when I look in the mirrrror I don't see me any more.
Kept my hair short after chemo ( its never been short)
Otter glad to hear from you keep on it girl don't let them get to yoou.
Started going to the Y and walking the track did 2 miles to start and then 2 1/2 miles then did 3 miles and guess what
after 4 weeks I have now gained 2 more pounds
Still at it my son comes in sometimes he makes me laugh and that moment we have makes it all worth it .
keep on it girls TERRY
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Can I join this group with my gripe? I've been sick for almost a month. I had strep throat 3 weeks ago, a kidney infection 2 weeks ago and now this week bronchitis, uti and MONO! I'm on my 3rd round of antibiotics, am coughing up a lung, can't eat due to nauseasness, break out in a sweat if I do more than move from couch to bed. I have a job, need to do report cards, my dd is home from college and is being a spoiled brat, no one has done the dinner dishes from last night, swept the kitchen or ANYTHING! Sorry, but I just want to cry all the time. Why are my kids so spoiled? I'm in a major pity party, just wanted to vent a little and this seemed like the place to do it.
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Hi all~
Hey Amanda - I'll take a TALL glass of hemp milk and keep 'em coming! I am 70% ER/PR + but have decided I am going to eat and drink whatever I want to. I also quit taking Arimidex the first of the year after 2 years. Not the right decision for everyone of course, but it was for me.
Lisa - your grocery store line story is a hoot, although sorry you had to miss your yoga class. On the bright side, how cool it must be to pick a fresh lemon for a drink!
Traci - that sounds like great advice on the look at the cashier, not the line. I'll try and remember that the next time I'm negotiating which line to pick.
Sheri - dang girl, you've been through the ringer lately. It's definitely time for things to not SUCK for you! And shame on DD for not helping you out when you're feeling like crap.
Too early for me to have much of a SUCKfest yet, but it's still early so pretty sure I'll be back later.
Donna
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sheri
Its funny but I didn't realize how spoiled my family was until chemo -- crack that whip --- there is no reason for young people not to do the dishes--- now if I cook they clean --- of course this took some in the family longer then others to do --- but dammmm get moving .......... Your sick--- I neeeed help would be a good start -- if It doesn't work I 'll come over and crack the whip--- this way I can be the bad guy. Sorry your feeling so bad keep the faith. Terry
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My bitch today is the drainfields to my septic system are failing. I'm having the tank pumped right now so I can add some stuff to it to see if it will cure the problem. I paid $350 for the stuff...plus, it's $175 today to have the tank pumped. The guy just told me the stuff I ordered on-line won't work...so I've basically thrown away $525 and will have to fork over $6,000 to fix the fields. (i'm going to give it a go anyway.)
oh....my....GOD....the odors wafting into my house right now from the septic tank pumping...please add that to the list of my complaints for the day.0 -
Okay!!!!!!!!! The daily winner is in....septic issues. Unless of course someone has another puke story. LOL! There are some good things to be said about being on the city sewer lines. At least if they get clogged, the city comes and cleans them out!
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Damn it AlwaysHope...you beat me to it!! I was gonna say gsg was the winner today!!!
Let me start by saying Joanne's death SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It seems like just a very short while ago she was feeling better. Man, sure makes me think about my own death alot. I think the thought of it is getting easier. Rest in peace Joanne.
((((((((((((((Amanda)))))))))))))))))))
What's going on with you girl????? It pisses me off that I don't know that. That sucks girl. Can't/Won't they do a PET and a BONE scan?? Sorry girl. Let us know what happens. I am confused by the +/- thing. I'm trip neg and thought I wasn't suppose to have soy. WTF??????? I can't wait to check out that guys song. Never heard of him. Hugs girl.
Nicki, you are HILARIOUS!! "Hemp milk..OMG" LMAO!!!! and....the smell of bacon.....lol!! Thanks for making me laugh through Joanne tears.
Hey Sheri girl! Welcome to our bitch thread! Awe.....your a teacher! Thank you!! Sorry your life currently sucks. Do what I did to my roomie....leave the lazy people a note and tell them to WASH THE DISHES!!!!!!!!!!! GAWD......unbelievable. I say you ask Terry over to smack them around a little!
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Hope y'alls day isn't too crappy!!
Hugs, Traci
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lol! I just had to paste that again!!!!
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I forgot and I just remembered just I was telling my 'lil sis about it...
"Just like kids (usually adolescent boys with incompetent parents) who are diagnosed with 'Oppositional Defiant Disorder' - an ongoing pattern of uncooperative, defiant, and hostile behavior toward authority figures. Gee we used to call that misbehaving! Put 'em in the Marines and see how they do!"
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gsq - septic fields DO win, lol re: your smiley holding it's nose!
re: "((((((((((((((Amanda)))))))))))))))))))
Can't/Won't they do a PET and a BONE scan??"
Ummm - they want to, I don't. Call me crazy. I've kind of had it with tests and am dragging my feet. The upshot is that all the tests so far have been clear (glory be), but I wonder about all the C/T radiation. On top of just having had radiation. One more sucky thing to be scared about. Grump grump. Ok, now I feel better! Really I am ms. positive most of the time but it helps to be able to stomp around online a bit and grump.
"I am confused by the +/- thing. I'm trip neg and thought I wasn't suppose to have soy. WTF???????"
Sorry, not sure about the whole ER- thing.... I thought the soy thing was just for ER+ but I don't know.
"I can't wait to check out that guys song. Never heard of him. Hugs girl."
Lincoln's local to portland, an undiscovered treasure. Here's the Nothing Makes Me Feel Good song (or if you prefer myspace click here). The lyrics about wanting to put all your eggs in one basket and smash it to the ground make me smile everytime.
I tried to find the "you're going to be alright" song he renamed "Amanda's song" every time we went to see him play during chemo but apparently he hasn't officially published it so I can't share.
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amyam
loved the song How did he know how I feel all the time makes me smile thanks for cheering me up. Terry
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AmyaM ... Love the song, thanks for sharing. I'm going to share it too!
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Hi All,
Sorry newvickie, but damn the warm weather here in Tn. I had to take a girlfriend to her rads and chemo. Thought I would be home by 1pm. It was 5pm and I am whipped. It was supposed to be cool and I wore fleece and it got up to 68 and I burnt up the whole day. I want to turn the AC on but my friend is freezing. Well, she just had her chemo, I'm through so I'll pamper her. Now finally home back in my jammies.
Sheri, welcome. This is the place to dump. First you ask, then you demand.
gsg......you win. I have a septic tank. I never knew the fields could get messed up. eeewwwww.
Carol...my husband never cleans or cooks. That is why I quit working in 2003. He makes the living....I may the living worthwhile!
I am new to this list and 4 women have died in the last couple of days! Is this normal???? That sucks......BC Sucks.....Triple Negative sucks....
Well, I am off to bed.....long day of waiting.
Debbie
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Traci,
I love you!!! I hate to add to the bitc* group since I only have DCIS, with a bilateral and 9 tumors in my breast two atypical hyper, but I have had enough!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cut my boobs off and I had heart surgery last week for bad PVC that was going to get me!!! I am still facing the total hyster soon after I get cardiac cleared! I am so sick of this crap! Onco says you should not be here you don't fit the BC patient criteria , heart Dr says wow your thin have great heart BP and great cholesterol and still you have serious heart problem!
This shi*t after my best friend died of colon cancer 9 mths before my dx! I have 5 kids and husband that works nights some days you just want to give up!
I read about the girls who have gone before us and their family and I see the suffering first hand from Barbara my friend that died and it just sucks! We should not have our lives interrupted by this damn disease cancer and the sorrow and hurt that never goes away even if you make it! The constant fear it will be back!
Traci- You are beautiful, even if you are not in the best self image mode now. Look at your avatar and remember the crap you are going through can never take the beautiful person I see in that picture away!
Life sucks sometimes and we all need to vent so thank you Traci for starting this thread! But also remember we can fight and take one day at a time! Here is to all the ladies and gents with any cancer!
Fight, fight , fight and hope for the future when cancer is a curable disease!!!
I am sick of IT!!!!!!!!!!!
Dani
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Wow! I thought there was something wrong with me because I have been depressed, tired, bitchy, and so not motivated. All this after I have finished all treatement and surgery and am "back to a normal life" supposedly. What is a normal life now? I'm not sure. I used to love to clean my house and now I can barely vacuum and dust one room before I get worn out. And the floors - fugeddaboudit! They haven't been washed in months. I just want to get in my car and drive into the sunset away from everything.
My poor husband thinks I don't love him anymore. And I must admit there are days I wish he would take his existential crisis somewhere else. Does anyone else have a spouse who is acting out?
My oc gave me some anti depressant yesterday. Maybe that will help get me on track. I feel like I should be out there giving back to the community and helping other bc patients and instead I just want to stay home and listen to my ipod.
Thanks for this forum, Traci. Only you gals can understand.
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Vickie....I don't get it..."damn snow".
Dani, is that one of your kids in your avatar????? Thanks for the compliment girl.
AmyaM, what the heck is pdx? Man, y'all are really making me feel smart tonight!!
Auntiec, I don't have a spouse but, I have a roommate. Wanna trade??????
: ) Traci
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