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  • truebff
    truebff Member Posts: 322
    edited March 2012

    Does anyone here have any opinions or experience with the benefits etc. of the 24 hour pee test? It seems very expensive ($450.00) and I'm not sure it will change what my alternative practitioner will recommend.

  • Bluebird-DE
    Bluebird-DE Member Posts: 1,233
    edited March 2012

    I had a bioenergetic test for $110 that was point on, got all of me in minutes. Then the supplements I was on were tested, then the ones I needed added, so I ended up w a full protocol. Was glad to have money to pay for them. Best $ spent in a long long time.



    Wish I knew about the pee test. But I do know there are tests for cancer too, which I will have someday.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 2,701
    edited March 2012

    truebff, I did a 24-hr. urine test 6 mos. ago, and just repeated it this past week.  Based on the results of my first test (which, by the way, show not just hormone levels, but very complex relationships), my ND put me on a couple of hormones -- DHEA and testosterone, which weren't even on my radar when I went to her, but which were low enough to need some help.  The results also gave me reassurance and vindication that the natural estrogen modulating I've figured out for myself based on I3C is working just fine.  I'm very interested to see the impact 6 mos. of DHEA, testosterone and also natural TSH (RX'd by her based on bloodwork) have made on my hormone levels, but I feel great, so am expecting things to be more in balance.

    As far as the cost, do you have health insurance?  My insurance doesn't cover my ND visits, but it does cover part of the tests she runs (through Genova Labs), so I've paid about $160 for the Complete Hormones one.  If you have insurance, see if your holistic doctor can find a lab that works with it.    Deanna 

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 881
    edited March 2012

    This just made me sick. One less beautiful life snuffed out thanks to the lies from the vaccine industry:

     http://sanevax.org/gone-after-gardasil-jessica-new-york/

    Now they are trying to convince us we need a breast cancer vac as well. I wonder how many that will kill before they prove it is dangerous just like the gardisil.

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 205
    edited March 2012

    I won't be inclined to trust a BC vaccine either with all the yucky stuff found in vaccines - this is stupefying

    GSK fined after over vaccine trials; 14 babies reported dead 

    "Laboratories can't experiment in Europe or the United States, so they come to do it in third-world countries. 

    The charges included experimenting with human beings as well falsifying parental authorizations so babies could participate in vaccine-trials conducted by the laboratory from 2007 to 2008"

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/88922/gsk-lab-fined-$1m-over-tests-that-killed-14--babies 

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 2,101
    edited March 2012

    My DS has been adamant that DGD was not going to get her vaccinations until she was two, and then only one at a time and a month apart.  Well, now he can't find a pediatrician that will do them that way...they are grouped together and they will not separate them, so she still hasn't been vaccinated.  I think there are some that she really needs, like DPT, but others that are not necessary and he can claim religious exemption on those.  It's a shame that parents don't have any rights when it comes to medical care for children.  He is willing to pay the cost of breaking up the shots, but they just don't manufacture them that way.

  • AMP47
    AMP47 Member Posts: 83
    edited March 2012

    http://www.nfb.ca/playlist/pink_ribbons_inc/

    Great stuff in this video trailer.   

  • Bluebird-DE
    Bluebird-DE Member Posts: 1,233
    edited March 2012

    Kaara - I think anyone who chooses not to get vaccinations might use the services of a homeopath, always have one on guard to help and the homeopath could help even before there is an issue and might know where to recommend they go for the vaccination needed.

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 2,101
    edited March 2012

    Essa:  That is a fantastic idea...I am going to ask my ND where my DS could take DGD to get her vaccinations the safe way.  I bet he will know.  Thanks so much...sometimes the solution is right in front of you and you don't see it.

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 881
    edited March 2012

    Kaara-There are doctors who do not vaccinate. You just have to really hunt for them. I know a doc who has NEVER pushed vacs, and none of his patients have ever had any of the diseases these vacs are suppose to prevent. The sheer number of these being pushed on our children, all in the name of profit, is devasting. The rising incidences of autism and childhood allergies is just heartbreaking, and so unnecessary.

    Can't wait til that Pink Ribbons movie comes out. I hope people will finally wake up to the whole pink ribbon nonsense and tell women the truth about how to prevent this disease in the first place.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 2,701
    edited March 2012

    For those here who remember MBJ (who was very active on this thread in the past) and may not be following a thread she started in the Stage IV forum, I thought I would repost here to update you:

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/8/topic/783617?page=4#idx_92 

    Here's a link to her DH's blog:  http://www.ryandavidjahn.com/apps/blog 

    I hate posting such devastating news, but I knew you would want to know.    Deanna 

  • Bluebird-DE
    Bluebird-DE Member Posts: 1,233
    edited March 2012

    Thank you Deanna.

    I had the most wonderful treatment today - photoluminescent therapy with ultraviolet light which treated three huge vials of my blood and sent it back into me for killing bacteria, fungus, viruses, building white blood cells, making me radiant and strong.  I will do  this once a month or more for awhile, then less often, then in a few years once every year.  Am supposed to be drinking a lot of water so cannot stop peeing, thus am up again.

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 2,101
    edited March 2012

    Essa:  That sounds interesting...never heard of it before and I don't think my ND does it.   I had my thermography today..a first for me and so much better than the customary mammogram.  I could see some red areas in my breasts but the technician said that only the radiologist could study and interpret the spots.  She said that because thermography catches these small suspicious areas so early, that many times they can be watched and treated without surgery.  I will know results sometime next week, so in the meantime I'm not going to worry.

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 881
    edited March 2012

    Deanna-Thanks for letting us know about Mary. It broke my heart. I sent a note to her husband. She had such a wonderful spirit, which will always be a part of those who loved her. We will all miss her positive energy.

    Kaara-redness does not always indicate cancer. It does show the breast has been injured and is inflamed. Surgeries, radiation, etc. cause inflammation that we do not always feel. That is why the therm is red. The tech will also be looking for temp. changes and vascular energy going to one area, and differences in both sides. So don't panic. Usually, a follow up in a few months will show you changes. As I said, I still see red after 4 years from the radiation. I can actually see the whole radiation field. This is why I get so made I ever submitted to that procedure. All this for such a small percentage of supposed advantage which I now believe would be the same with all the changes I have made. I wish they were more honest about how much damage radiation does. But at least I can see improvement with every therm. That is what to look for. And I will not be adding insult to injury by getting any more mammos.

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 2,101
    edited March 2012

    vivre:  Yes, we were able to pinpoint my surgery...it was a round red spot in exactly the place where the surgery was performed.  I didn't have rads after surgery, but certainly had enough rad exposure through several diagnostic mammos and scans.  Hope that's all it is.

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 205
    edited March 2012

    Thank you Deanna, I was in total shock after reading your post yesterday, I had missed her update, I tend to not go into stage IV territory, it scares me too much.  I read this whole thread before becoming a member and feel like I know her, a very good friend.  I am really saddened by her passing

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 205
    edited March 2012

    Essa, I've never heard of it either, you're way ahead of me !  Sounds like dialysis, is that what it was like ? Did you have to go to a special clinic ?

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 4,503
    edited March 2012

    Deanna thank you so much for letting us know.  I am heart broken for her husband.  Mary always had so much to add here and I did not realize that her cancer had returned.  I am so sad.

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 506
    edited March 2012

    Deanna, thank you for posting about MBJ.  I am stunned.  What a radiant soul for us to lose.  I'm missing her very much. 

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 205
    edited March 2012

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    http://www.mindandlife.org/dialogues/past-conferences/ml22/mind-and-life-xxii-session-2/ 

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 166
    edited March 2012

    I am absolutely stunned and saddened to hear of Mary's passing. I have not seen her on here for awhile, and had no idea that she had received news of mets. How very sad. Peace to you, Mary. You were a beacon of hope and light on this board and in the outside world.

  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 754
    edited March 2012

    I can't believe Mary's gone. She was always such a hopeful voice when I first came here a very scared newbie!

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 881
    edited March 2012
  • truebff
    truebff Member Posts: 322
    edited March 2012

    I see "alpha-tocopherol - naturally occuring vitamin e" in a lot of things. Is this something I should worry about? Soy -wise?

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 205
    edited March 2012

    Truebff, we hang out on the same threads Lol

    Funny, I was just reading about Vit E last night and checking my bottle, since I got Vit E x 8 = 4 tocopherols + 4 tocotrienols.  Here's the scoop:

    Natural Vitamin E = d-alpha-tocopherol
    Synthetic Vitamin E = dl-alpha-tocopheryl

    "While both alpha and gamma tocopherol are potent antioxidants, gamma tocopherol has a unique function. Because of its different chemical structure, gamma tocopherol scavenges reactive nitrogen species, which can damage proteins, lipids, and DNA"

    That's why it's important if you are supplementing to make sure you get both as they work in synergy.  But if it's only added to one of your supplements in order to prevent oxydation, I would not worry about it.  Soy-wise, nothing to do with it imo Wink

    This is an interesting piece depicting a designed-to-fail study 

    http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2012/mar2012_Synthetic-Alpha-Tocopherol-Shown-Increase_01.htm 

  • Luna5
    Luna5 Member Posts: 532
    edited March 2012

    Deanna...thank you for letting us know.  I am even shocked at how very said I am over this.  MBJ really is more special to me than I even knew before your news.  I read her husband's blog and was even more saddened.  SFBC !%##!%  I HATE this SH##!!!!!.

    It is high time someone stopped Monsanto's Frankenfood and all the people putting hormones in our food making us estrogen dominant.  I could go on and on, but I won't.  I'm just really said about MBJ.  Couldn't get to sleep last night after reading the posts.  :(

  • fairy49
    fairy49 Member Posts: 536
    edited March 2012

    hi lovely ladies, devastated by the loss of our sister and angel Mary, Luna I agree I f..king hate this sh...!!!!

    L

    ox

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 2,101
    edited March 2012

    Yes, very said.  I had just read one of her posts where she said she was feeling stronger, and expected to have more time.  What happened to her is just what happened to my friend who had lung cancer.  She thought the pain in her shoulder was a torn rotator cuff and was treating it as such, when all the time it was the cancer that had spread.  By the time the doctors figured it out, it was too late for anything but pallative care.  How do doctors who know you are a cancer patient miss this stuff!  This is why I don't take their word for anything....I seek a second opinion.  In my friend's case, she was so trusting and put her total faith in her doctors.  IMHO they were guilty of malpractice.

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 506
    edited March 2012

    I too am missing Mary MBJ very much.  I knew she was very happily married, but I never realized until her DH posted photos on his blog how stunningly attractive they both are.  I too am floored at the 7 months of shoulder pain and doctors who didn't make her a priority. 

    Note to self:  don't ever let shoulder pain go without medical supervision.  Arrive with a baseball bat if necessary to demand attention. 

    What I much prefer to focus on is the good quality of life she had while all this was going on.  Her turn for the worse was dramatic, sudden, and short.  Prior to that, she was loving life, her husband, and they moved to the home they dreamed of together.  She lived a celebratory life with dignity and grace.  How lucky we are that she shared her story with us.  In the aftermath of her passing, I still feel sad, but I also feel an inexplicable peace.  

    I have a lemon tree that I received as a gift recently.  I've just decided to plant it today and dedicate it to her.  

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 881
    edited March 2012

    Fairy-so good to here from you. I hope you are doing well.

    I think we all can agree that the sadness we feel about losing Mary can be our inspiration to continue to help others. This forum was started in part as a tribute to FlaLady, who never gave up and never backed down. I think we should honor Mary as well. We have their spirits guiding us from above and from within.

    God bless our angels.