Great saying about depression
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3jays, I agree with Debbie!! Get thee some Xanax NOW!! UNLESS it affects your stroke rehabilitation. Did he say anthing like that? Why would he deny you some minor relief after telling you all that heavy shit???
Debbie, you are SO right again!! Of course the MRI report wouldn't say "pretty sure", but my Onco looked at the report and then up at me and said they're pretty sure. I will go to my PCP in the next couple of weeks and get a copy of it. They DID recommend a bone scan to further evaluate the bone, but my onc and I know it will show uptake so we both don't see the point.
Debbie, we all know that Max is a sweetie!!
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Oh Debbie! I have not met Max but I adore him! He does so remind me of my son - I think they would get along well. So glad you have him - as nice as it is to have visitors it is so lovely for Max to understand how tiring it is to have guests. I also assume your visitors understand will will help out as needed too! So sorry it is rainy but then at the same time, mabey that can help you not over do it. I also agree if you become addicted to anti-anxiety pills the problem is what? I honestly wonder why all of us are not addicted to anti-anxiety pills. That really isn't the issue. Being able to remain calm and be able to rest is the only thing that will keep the stress levels in check so that you body can deal with everything.
3-jays- Wow! I am speechless with your doctor unless as Barb says that there is some interaction which he/she didn't explain as to why they wouldn't give your the Xanex. That is very wrong -especially to have scared you so terribly and then to just leave you to deal with it all and with all you have been though. I'm so sorry!
Barb, not sure what the uptake means exactly but at least arthritis isn't horrible.
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debbie and Barbe: he said its' "just something He doesn't prescribe" because of its addictive quality.. i only take it when its' bad.. but, its bad right now (anxiety) I have been dxed with "agitated depression which means i can't stop moving, thinking..
I will see a psche when i can, it won't interfere with rehab.. but, i have my old cardio who still rxing me, and i have plenty, as I take minute amounts, anyway..
I really can't find fault with the guy, he just a be;liever that your GP should take care of rx you take regularly. My pain specialist won't rx either, because its addictive.. but its the only thing keeping me 1/2 way sane at "those" moments.. it'l;l work itself out. just yet ANOTHER dr to add to the list!
Hope all is going well with both of you, you both are under some strain, with all your stuff.
Debbie, i hope your breathing is still okay. My sed rate fell to under 96 the last appt.. do they give oxygen for that little a drop? i'm faithfully taking the nebulizer tx since the hospital, but they really just took the oxygen away when I left, and never addressed wether i needed it at hone, or not......later....3jays
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Stanzie, "uptake" means activity which normally would mean bones mets. My arthritis is SO bad that it shows as an uptake. I am crippled! Arthritis IS horrible!!!!!
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Really? Because I thought depression was a sign of your life sucking.
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Leslie - don't quite understand your posting. Depression does mean your life is sucking, as you so put it, but it also mean you struggle to deal with everyday issues and your own medical situations.
We are not all depressed here. Well, I have been but discovered I was more anxious than depressed so now take a med for it and feel better. We come here to share the good and the bad in our lives. This is our BC 'family'. Some of us don't write much now - we are either better or taking time off.
3jays: yes, the anti anxiety pills I am on can become addictive and my GP was concerned about that and I was going down on the dose when I found out about the lung mets. Then she doubled my dose and said 'why worry about addiction - it's more important you enjoy life'. I so do love my Dr.
3jays: I have had oxygen sats of 95 since being diagnosed with the lungs mets, but then the next visit it's 98%. With you on the neb tx, it's more important to use that than just give you O2, as if it can't exchange in the lungs for the carbon dioxide, it won't do you any good. But, even with saying that, I would think you should have a small tank at home with a nasal cannula for times after you have done a neb treatment and you are still a bit breathless, just for 5 minutes, to kind of fill you up and get you going again!
I am having no breathing issues and hope this remains so for a heck of a long time. I do get tired but as my BFF points out, I do do a lot on our property. So I'm either on the move or resting due to exhaustion. I'll be gardening 2 hours and out trots my husband to tell me enought, rest. Oh heck, I like to stay out twice as long, but he's right. 2 hours and I'm not worn out. I just think I have gotten weak since this lung diagnosis and need to build myself back up again.
I am trying to cut down on my junk food and eat more healthy stuff. Ate 3 apples the other day - that should give me some points! And no Snickers bars for the last 3 days! .....talk about addictive.
Hope we are all semi ok here - enjoy your weekends...........
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Debbie thanks for the info.. i've been really having "dark days" lately. My hubs has begun reacting to all the med problems by syelling, and i just am having the hardest time with it, so he's the bedroom, and i stay on the other side of the house, lately.
He's gonna see the pcyche for a change of meds, but today isn't soon enuff for me.
I'm not the most patient, or understading oerson of late, but i
'm having a haed time NOIT reacting. He's usually so mellow, and easygoing, but watching me almost die is getting to him.
My breathing is better, kinda.. they tested me for 02; and i was ok.. but then got an asthma attack in the car, so i'll talk to her next week.. Ive started on pulmacort, a steroid, for just a little while. my airways are constricted, and stilol doinf xeponex as well.
I am so sorry you have had metastised sp? to your lungs.. but, get out in the sunshine, and enjoy every day for sure!
I get into my garden as much as I can, too, and now i'm finally cleared to go to the pool again. thank goodness, as its getting really hot here, already!
i just need a huge dose of acceptance tonight.. for me, for my family, for my health.. sometimes ts so hard though..
I don't worry about the anti anxiety meds being addictive, either.. i take a very low dose, and i won't leave the dr who rxs them, ever, i can't cope without them, but the other drs. don't get it..
thinking of you all tonight.......3.jays
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3jays: heck, 3jays, how you cope each day is in itself amazing to me! You are my miracle woman. Some health crisis comes blazing into your life and you deal with it - time after time. You have to move out of your rental, and a stroke of luck, you can buy a condo in the same complex but it's you who is packing and doing. You have never even had the luck I had that my hair grew back after chemo and it's thicker than ever and instead of stick straight - has a bit of curl.
Your husband sounds like he has his own psychological problems, and you carry with weight of that too. But I have to say, as for part of how your husband is acting, it is hard to watch someone you lovely so dearly get so sick like you do, time after time, either an infection, or your heart or a medication or something. And asthma, it does it's own stomping around on your lungs. And the inhaler medication can be rough on your heart.
Like you, I wouldn't stop taking my anti-anxiety medication either. If I did my hubby would probably have to scrape me off the ceiling. And if I didn't take pain pills, well I'd spend all my time doing nothing, which would totally do my head in. Like you, I need to be outside and get relaxation and peace gardening with Jaki and Fred hanging around.
Yes, I do now have Breast Cancer which has metastasized to my lungs - there are 100's of tiny tumours, like the size of a pin head, way too small to even biopsy but the radiologist says they look and are breast cancer. Suckers - after a lumpectomy, chemo ,rads, then the double mastectomy but I always knew this could happen as my tumour was invasive. It didn't need to show a positive SNB (Sentinel Node Biopsy - mine was negative), I knew the breast cancer was in my blood stream. I just hoped chemo would kill it all off and then the Femara would keep it away.
Well, the best part is we found out purely by accident in doing a CT of my liver, which was done as my liver enzymes were elevated and the technician got a bit of my lower lungs. Radiologist called me back for a whole lung scan so I knew I was in trouble but when I saw the CT even I was shocked at the number of tumours. AND, right now I am asymptomatic, so have no breathing issues, which am trying to maintain and taking more care with what I inhale like dust, etc. Dr also changed me to Tamoxifen from Femara and redid test 6 weeks later and no change to CT of lungs and my blood tumour count was down to 56 from 80. I go through these tests again the end of May and if all is the same or better, then I can go 6 months without testing.
It did freak me out. Hell, I'm only 60. Before I got BC 3 years ago I was doing triathlons, training 2 to 3 hours 6 days a week. Now I think I am training for naps!
You know 3jays, I think you are a very compassionate, patient and understanding woman but wise also to keep your distance if your husband can't control his emotions right now. It probably scares him that there just isn't much he can do to make you feel better and wishes he could.
Take care of yourself - maybe get into that pool!
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Hi Ladies- 3jays - men have a hard time vocalising their feelings, and this sometimes manifests itself like they are a very grumpy bear with a sore head!!! He is probably worried sick about you, so hang in there although he must be hard to live with at the moment.
justagirl - I am so glad to hear your GP is sympathetic, and that you are not having any breathing difficulties. At one time you mentioned they may try some chemo- will they still try this? I am thinking of you and praying for you and your family always.
Babe - have you been put through your paces for the insurance company yet? I am sorry about your arthritis - it is such an awful disease. Wish they could find some cure for it!!!
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thanks for all the encouragement, ladie. Im so glad to hear your asymptomatic, debbie.. i hope it stys small, and asynmptomatic for a long tim e. its good that there's no progression, so maybe the switch in meds will do the trick for now. what about chemO??hugz to you all 3jays
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Hello ladies,good to see you here again.
Leslie,we support each other on this thread through our life changes. I have found great comfort here when I was having a very hard time coping.I hope you find support here,too.
Debbie,I am glad your body seems to be responding to tx.
3jays,I was wondering how you were doing. Hang in there,sweetie.
I am on vacation in Mexico with my dd.We are having a blast.I'm talking a break from arimidex for a month.I am hoping to feel better and better.I have to be real careful about getting too much sun.
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The test I ended up going at the physio place was with weights and boxes and carts and all sorts of stuff that HURT me!!! Apparently they did the WRONG test!!! I wasn't supposed to be lifting the boxes and such as we already knew that a physical job wasn't a possibility. I am SO mad!! I cried so much during the testing that they had to give me a towel. Finally I had to "refuse" to do any more and then they stopped. I was afraid to look like I wasn't trying!! Took 40 mgs of morphine for me to be able to sit up and eat dinner. Test took 4 HOURS. I was a mess.
Saw my psychiatrist the other day and something I said in passing made him stop and give me some questionnaires. A whole handful! Turns out that he thinks I might have Borderline Personality Disorder. Not a good thing, but I seem to be textbook based on what I read online. A trauma at a young age (stomach surgery at 10 days old!! with hospital stay) and then parents that were resentful...uh, ya!! I am quite angry as I didn't have a bloody chance in life!! I am about to turn 55 and feel like I wasted the first 2/3 of my life. So friggin' MAD!!!! I am waiting to see him again in early June to see where we go now. No drugs can help, just psycho-therapy apparently.
It's similar to PTSD and one of the symptoms is a fear of abandonment. So when my kids don't email or contact me I panic and hound them. Remember the bullshit with my DD over the years with her withholding her and her family from me? .... sigh.... I truly didn't have a chance.....
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mac: so glad to hear you are having a fun time on your well'deserved vacation! Hope you are feeling better too, physically and mentally
barbe; oh so sorry to hear what you had to endure during the disability testing. That is just awful. Guess they will want to retest you properly. Whomever did the testing obviously did not look at your history of they would of known to not evaluate you for a 'physical job' such as they did. Idiots.Hope it helps that the psychiatrist has maybe diagnosed you correctly so you receive the right treatment.
3jays: oncologist doesn't want to do chemo again right now if the Tamoxifen can reduce the number of lung tumors or keep them the same size and my CA15.3 blood tumour count test keeps going down or stays stable. She said chemo could very well be needed in the future, and the body can only take so many rounds of it - so she is saving for it! That was the first thing I said to her was "give me chemo and let's hit this hard' but she said because I am asymptomatic she isn't doing it and will order it if the Tamoxifen isn't still doing a good job....but she would give me chemo way before I started having breathing issues. Whole goal is to keep me breathing easily for as long as possible. Yeah - I like that idea, as it kind of freaks me out from time to time worrying about having difficulty breathing!....as you well know. How are you doing?
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I told my therapist who I see each week what the phsych had said and he actually adjusted the diagnosis to one I like better. BPD is often linked to PTSD which is what I thought I might be suffering from. There is another disorder called Complex PTSD which actually fits me better. The first diagnosis is harsh and this one is a bit more hopeful..... I actually saw my DD the other night and told her about the PTSD (which I thought would be much easier for her to handle than BPD)! I had surgery at 10 days old and was fed through an IV in my foot. NO mother bonding or love and I was ignored when I was brought back home. (FIRST trauma!!) My DD asked why I came unglued now and I said because of breast cancer! Made total sense to her and we had a great talk. One of the issues with Complex PTSD is abandonment issues, so I was able to explain how I get desperate when I don't hear or see her for a while. GREAT conversation!!!
Re: this physio place I went to. Looked like they worked with Workmans Comp patients most of the time. Very professional and all, but the owners were 2 young "kids" (30's???). I had to sign a sheet to allow Great West Life (my insurer) to send along records and was STUNNED to see a 2" pile of papers that were all about ME!!!! TWO INCHES ladies!!!!! The file at my PCP isn't even that big!! I'm embarrassed to wonder what they know about me!!!!!
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I was going to write an autobiography one day, but I think I'll just submit my Great West Life paperwork!!!!!
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Barbe - you are a shining example of the road we travel with dealing with BC> you can still laugh and make others laugh!
Yeah, wouldn't all our medical records combined make for some fine..................... reading material!
Barbe - you sound happier!
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Shit! That came out as funny???? Maybe I'll laugh about it some day...sigh...today is NOT the day! I fell very badly in the kitchen last night and even scared my DH. Bruises and swollen elbows and strained muscles...I cried.
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oh Barbe - guess I should of clarified what I said was funny. What I meant was instead of writing your autobiograhy one day, you would just submit your Great West Life Paperwork -I thought that was a good one (joke - funny). oh dear. I am in no way making light of your situation which is not funny in the least! Forgive me?
Sorry
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Debbie, I think I'm just in a funk as spring and summer fashions begin. I miss getting dressed up and being pretty and having someone say "Oh, I love your new purse!" or something like that....and someone even KNOWING I had a new purse!! (I don't!) I did email my insurance company and haven't heard a word from them since. I'm daring them to send me to the correct testing!!!!
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Oh Barbe: wish there was a job near your home, in which wasn't physically demanding, that you could make the money to go out and buy new clothes to wear and actually enjoy being out at your job. Ah, what a dreamer I am. I think I understand you.' Spring funk'. I never dress up either, don't think my husband or the horses would notice, but then for me, so far, I don't care. Guess it's from working so many years in hospital scrubs which were not exactly a fashion statement and I loved them as they allowed me to wear a singlet instead of a bra under my top!
Sorry but I don't have an answer for you. But, I too dare your insurance company to keep after you about this testing after their major screw up!
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Hi Barbe- sorry the insurance company put you through such a gruelling ordeal. It makes you sound like some expensive race horse which has broken a leg. Maybe we should sling you up in a harness for 6 months to heal!!! I don't like the term BPD, and I wish your pyschiatrist had not told you that- it makes you sound like an unsup from the series "Criminal Minds". Of course you would hold tight to your relationships, and keep waiting for the sh.. to hit the fan!!! Your sadist Father and Mother did that to you. You are an amazing loving woman who deserves love and respect, and don't ever forget that. I am so sorry you fell on top of all you are going through. Big hugs!!
justagirl - how are you doing? Thinking of you always. I am so glad the new regime seems to be keeping things under control.
Thanks for the kind words mac - you are a sweetheart
3 jays - hope your DH has calmed down somewhat. It does take them a while!!! He is probably feeling mighty ashamed by now, and will probably get to an apology in a few weeks!
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Thanks Maddie, that makes me feel better!
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Hi Barbe - feeling better? How is the back? I think I know now why your parents picked you to vent their aggressions on. If you had a stomach operation when you were so tiny, you understandably probably cried more as a baby than your siblings. It just brought out their sadistic side, and you were an easy target. The pattern was set, and you never had a chance girl! It was never because you were unlovable, as you have probably felt deep inside all your life, and don't you forget it! On the plus side it has made you the eloquent charismatic person you are today!
justagirl - still doing okay? I always wondered why you could wield a chain saw so well. It must be all the triathlons you have done. I must admit I am a real whimp when it comes to those things. I am really terrified my arms won't be able to hold it up, and it will slip and cut off an arm! I even find the noise scary!
£jays - doing okay? Did you get your belated apology?
mac - wish I could join you on holiday- sounds super! Hope you are feeling better now you have stopped the Arimidex.
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Complex PTSD - interesting......any more info on this please? It could easily fit me....
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Lily, I think we all have PTSD to a degree, thanks to our runs in with BC. Look it up on the internet. It can relate to any situation you have gone through, which may be past, yet your fear it's coming back or you just can't shake your horrible nightmares of it out of your life. Having had BC initially, I was in constant fear of getting it again - mets, and it was destroying my ability to function daily - I was frozen with anxiety. Then my new GP puts me on an anti-anxity med and I and up and running again - literally and then SMACK, I get lung mets, but thanks to the anxiety med, I have not totally crumpled in a heap. I just have a few days at a time or one at a time or a few hours when I am scared, frozen, and crying.
Maddie: have to tell you, have a double mastectomy with a latissimus dorsi flap on one side sure cut down on my upper body strength. And chain saws come in sizes too and mine is one up from the smallest, but you do need upper body strength. I wasn't able to use mine for a year after the double mastectomy and did lots of exercises to strengthen my arms and pecs. Funny, before BC, I used to do 50 full push ups a day, which did give me lots of upper body strength. Story: when I first started training for triathlons on Kauai, I joined my husband with all his male friends - no other women. They ignored me, so I had to work to keep up with them. I was afraid to swim alone in the ocean so I worked on upper body strength so I could keep up with them. Then I did an outrigger canoe race called the Molokai channel in which you must pull yourself out of the water and up and over into an outrigger canoe speeding by you so you could replace the team mate that just jumped out, so again, upper body strength.
All in all, no more pushups, per my plastic surgeon, so I'm not as strong. Now, once again, I can use the chainsaw, but for no where as long. But I can still use the sucker.
Mets have invaded me, but I'll be dammed (most of the time) if I will let them rule my life! I had a crappy childhood, a lonely time as a teen and young person, worked hard and met my wonderful husband. Life has been good. We have our son Max by the miracle of !VF when I was 41, so, now at 60, I'm just hitting my stride. I may not be as physically strong, but mentally, at times I'm even stronger. And it's thanks to the kind words of all of you!
Have my next scan the beginning of May along with blood tumour markers - will let you know. I feel fine and no breathing issues.
Mac - how was your vacation?
Maddie - how are you?
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barbe - how are you doing? Physically and mentally?
3jays: has your hubby sorted out his issues and is acting human again? I'm sure he gets depressed and sad at all you have to go through and deal with in regard to your health, but he doesn't seem like he was helping the situation much! Knowing you, you still have boxes to unpack and a garden to work on. Wished I lived closer and I would come right over. Gardening I love and boxes, well I like seeing things but in order where they belong.
When my own environment is as I like it, I rest better. This house renovation has almost done me in but it's nearing completion. Flooring and carpeting going in the end of the month. Now I just have to find a globe to match or replace all three globes on an antique hanging lamp in our dining room that I knocked off it's perch with one of Jerry's canoe paddles I was taking off the wall! I would like to just replace the chandelier but there are also two wall sconces and what I want isn't inexpensive. I'm searching ebay and local antique stores. I'm just not in a position, with all we have already put out to be spending a ton of money on three light fixtures. And I really don't like the ones that are there, but for now, if I can just get the shade, the rest can be changed later. This has been a 3 month marathon full of obstacles, Luckily the painter and flooring people are lovely and the floor sander too! And the lady who is making the pelmets for all the windows, french doors and window seat cushions, well, I am lucky.
I planned this remodeling before I found out about the mets and almost said no to going on with the project but then said to myself I am not going to stop my life, and the inside of our home was getting tacky after 16 years, holes in carpeting, peeling paint - you get the idea. And I was the contractor. Chose guys who were skilled, neat, and I liked. The painters never batted an eye when I would come downstairs at 8:30 in my robe for coffee and they would of been at work since 6. Even dog sat for me when I went to dr's appointments. Cleaned up every day after themselves and helped me take down heavy pictures and then rehang them. I call them the Three musketeers but they act like the three stooges!
Ok, all for now. Lets move forward the best our bodies and minds will allow us to!
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justagirl - can I say how inspirational you are - both physically and mentally. The way you are dealing with the news of your mets, and still find time to reply to other people's problems. You are a wonderful lady. I can't handle alterations in the house even when I am feeling 100%- can't stand the mess!! Once it is done though I am sure you will be thrilled with the results.
Leaping into a moving canoe - WOW - go girl!!! For some reason I have very weak arms even though I used to be fit and active. I do canoe, but have an adorable light wooden canoe which is very easy to paddle. One story is etched into the annals of our family history. I started gym with my DH, and was trying to bench press some weights. The bar was only "twitching", and I couldn't raise it even an inch, even though I was trying so hard the pulse in my temple was throbbing. I asked my DH to put a smaller weight on, and he laughed and said there were no weights on the pin!!!
You asked how I am feeling. To tell you the truth I feel a bit low at the moment for some reason. I seem to get constant bladder infections since starting chemo - never had them before. It may be the effects of Cyclophosamide, but have given up trying to figure out what causes what!! I am feeling more and more weary, and the bone scan I had recently showed a slightly suspicious area on one rib. I HATE that word "think". Everytime they tell me they "think" it is nothing it turns out to be something!! I am waiting to see if they are doing any more tests.
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Maddie, this might stop soon as the painters are due at any time to chase me out of this last room, so if I stop suddenly, will pick up again in two days.
Maddie - I am just me. I have been driven from a young age that I have to rely on myself as no one was going to come along and save me. I left home the morning after I graduated from high school, in which my father was too drunk to attend. The end of that. From that moment on I have paid for everything I have and do. When I met my husband he was a runner - marathons and I smoked and drank. After watching this guy 20 years older than me have more energy than me, well, I wanted that too, and went after it.
Barbe here made me realize to not be sad over what I couldn't do now but what I have had the pleasure of doing in my life and it was a good wake up reminder. I try to give to others as I wish others would do it also. Hell, we all have problems and I don't answer when I am in a deep funk. I do think sometimes my nursing background helps and I am happy to share that 30 year knowledge as well as what I learned on my own with training for outrigger canoe races, marathons and triathlons.
If you are going through chemo, you have every right to feel tired and blah and icky. Chemo is rough on the bladder and liver. You may try upping your water intake to 2 1/2 litres a day and include some sugar free cranberry juice. Sugar free as bacteria, and yeast infections (what that area of of bodies like) thrive on sugar. You also may need to get a sterile container and take a sample of your urine to your Dr -I would, as maybe you do need an antibiotic. While taking chemo, as it knocks out the cancer (we hope) it knocks down your immune system, dropping your white cell count and raising your liver and kidney enzymes. It's fricking poison. Ask my veins. If I have chemo again, none is going in without a port. Now I am in misery every time I need a blood draw as they do like 5 pokes. The last time I said put the tourniquet on my left arm and give me the needle. She said she couldn't do that. I said call my Dr. My Dr said to let me and bang, I got the sucker. What one can do when pushed to the wall.
I well remember my round with chemo, felt fine for about 12 hours, then just sick. No vomiting, but nausea and only wanted to drink water and lots of it, which was good for me. Tired, didn't like the taste of any food, and laid around the house watching Dr Phil and Oprah, rather than reading. I never before have watched tv in the day. If I got up and showed by 2pm I thought I was doing good. .........So you are entitled to feel weary. If you can, get outside and walk for even 5 minutes in the day and sit in the sun. Other than that rest and try to eat healthy.
Yes, hate the Dr's 'suspicious' findings. It is or it isn't. Or just shut-up. I think once we have BC, our something's are always not good. Pessimist in me.
As to my mets, they are there and it helps me to keep busy to avoid thinking of them and what those little suckers are doing. Heck, they are all over my lungs, these tiny spots, hundreds of them. Since my original BC tumor was aggressive and invasive, I am just waiting for them to take off and grow. My BC tumor was not existent in a mammogram on 22 Nov and I felt the peach pit size lump the first week in March. Yikes!
Rest Maddie. Be kind to yourself. You have every right and reason to not feel well. Try no sugar and sugar free cranberry juice for your bladder. Remember, it's poison exiting your body - I always called mine 'Draino' - cleaning the pipes out.
Thinking good thoughts your way. Stay strong. We are here and if we stick together, we I think, have a better chance of getting through this. I believe often it's more a mental battle than physical.
Hope the rest of you are on cruise control. Will let you know the results of my tests. If I'm upset it will take me a few days to gather steam to go on.
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PS: I can't stand changes in or outside of my house, but I had to do this. I had planned this before the mets were discovered, so after thinking for a week, decided I wasn't going to let these mets stop me and I was more determined than ever. I have to say I have lovely guys doing the painting, floors and construction and they accept me mornings in my bathrobe and help me move any heavy stuff. And I told them about my lungs, so they vacuum every day after they work and put up sheets of plastic to keep sanding dust in just where they are working. Then my husband vacuums again with our double filter blah blah vacuum. But I like my privacy and peace and solitude and this wrecks it all to hell!
Almost done, painters last day is today (saturday) and then just carpeting and flooring...and drapes.
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