Great saying about depression

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  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited March 2011

    Kate:  There are so many other airlines:  If you really want to go back to what you were doing before, are you going to apply elsewhere?   Just curious.  It seems to me that the skills you aquire as an airline stewardess can qualify you for just about any kind of managerial position.  I think sometimes it just takes thinking out of the box.  I have started fresh many times in my life and just faked it till I made it when I was doing something I had no experience doing.  I have been an accountant, an office manager, payroll manager, waitress, bartender, coctail waitress, limo driver, I ran a service department, I've sold cars, worked in customer service, was a semi professional singer and now I work in interior design.  I am all over the map when it comes to jobs!

  • karen333
    karen333 Member Posts: 2,037
    edited March 2011

    LG, congratulations on finding a job, in this job market it is not easy to do.  And to make it even better the job excites you.  Barbe, I think that would be my first impulse too   - just to stick it to them,but if it means keeping my home, I'd have to go for it.  I went back to work, as a pre-school teacher, a half a yr. after my surgery.  I quickly found out I wasn't 30 yrs. old anymore and had to give my notice, it was a blow to my self esteem, which was already riding low.  It took me awhile to get to the point that i could just say, "it is what it is" without attaching baggage to that statement.  I think we have so much healing to do after a diagnosis of cancer that it could easily take a yr. or more.  Karen

  • Barbie7
    Barbie7 Member Posts: 126
    edited March 2011

    Hello Karen,  Welcome.  You will find that you are most definately not alone here.  

  • Kate33
    Kate33 Member Posts: 1,936
    edited March 2011

    MBJ- The appeal of USAir over other airlines is I would be trained, based and on reserve in Phoenix which is something I couldn't have with any other airlines- at least not at first.  It would involve commuting from another state which can be really challenging when you're a new hire.  If it weren't for my son it would be no big deal but am not willing to be gone from him for weeks at a time so USAir was my best shot.  Am looking at possible ground jobs with airlines here in Phoenix though it's not really where my passion lies.  I, too, have done lots of different jobs- everything from carnival ride operator to photographer.  I think if I had to take a job where I worked in a cubicle 9-5 (no offense to anyone who does) I would just shrivel up and die or at least be very unhappy.  Maybe I should start buying lottery tickets?  Probably better odds than finding a job in Phoenix right now.  Just posted on Facebook that I think all the jobs have gone into the Witness Protection Program.  LOL!

  • Stanzie
    Stanzie Member Posts: 1,611
    edited March 2011

    oooh I think photographer sound great!!!!! Then you can schedule your own hours and you can advertize at your son's school!

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 7,605
    edited March 2011

    To anyone that didn't pick this up before, I'm not telling Kate to stuff the job. Kate didn't think she'd accept it if it was offered, because they were on strike and she'd be a "scab". So the concept was for her to use this interview as a practice run for the job she really wants! There, now you are all up to speed on me.

  • karen333
    karen333 Member Posts: 2,037
    edited March 2011

    hi Barbie7, thanks for the welcome, I have been reading back pages of this site, you are all so supportive of each other.  Many of my concerns have been talked about, am a year and a half  from my lumpectomy and am on Arimidex. I alternate from being mad to sad, am also grieving the loss of my greatest supporter and friend, my godmother.  This last loss, from cancer, her 4th bout, has me mad.  It isn't as if I didn't have enough to deal with, her loss is devastating to me.  Karen

  • Kate33
    Kate33 Member Posts: 1,936
    edited March 2011

    The hardest part for me when I someone I love dies from cancer is "I'm o.k., why couldn't they have been o.k., too?  Why couldn't they have saved them?"  Maybe it's survivor's guilt.  Maybe it's just being pissed at the medical community when it still feels like we're living in the dark ages sometimes.  Maybe it's just needing to be mad at someone because we want our loved ones here with us.  I just want to say, "Hey, I gave you my breasts.  Leave my family alone!"  

  • karen333
    karen333 Member Posts: 2,037
    edited March 2011

    That's exactly what it feels like, life doesn't stop while we are dealing with the cancer, devastating events happen that pull a just placed rug under your feet, out from under. Or that God just overestimated what I could handle.  And yet I know I am better today than I was yesterday,  I did exercise today and the sun is out, and I got some errands taken care of.  Karen

  • Kate33
    Kate33 Member Posts: 1,936
    edited March 2011

    That's great, Karen!  I had a great day as well.  I've always liked to write and today I sat down at the computer and the words just flowed.  I started a article called "What I Thought I Knew About Breast Cancer....And All The Things I Didn't".  Before I knew it an hour had passed and I had 6 pages written!  I don't have any plans to try and get it published but it sure felt cathartic to write it.  

    Hope everyone is finding their bliss today as well! 

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 7,605
    edited March 2011

    Life happens while you're making other plans....

    I am going to an interview today for another company that has a base + commission system. My take home pay on March 1st was only $528.40. I have a mortgage, insurances, car, and FOOD to pay for!!! Working for 100% commission is just too stressful!! You think???

  • don23
    don23 Member Posts: 213
    edited March 2011

    Good luck Barbe!

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited March 2011

    Barbe:  There isn't any way I would work for commission only in this economic environment!  You sound like you are very good at what you do and another company with better perks would be lucky to have you.  Good luck and I hope you get it!!!

    Kate:  That's too bad.  You know, you are pretty eloquent and I bet you could learn to write for a living.  My husband is a writer and it's really starting to pay off.  He had to work at quite a few dull jobs but now he writes full time.  I went to see my friend yesterday who is a stewardess and she said they had an open call type window for people to apply from outside the airline "system".  She said it was insane so many people applied!!!  They were filled up with applicants before an hour passed by 5 am L.A. time!  Her friend tried to apply and couldn't even get through, so it's not just Phoenix that is in a slump.  I am confident that you will find your way--You are an intelligent, funny, warm and compassionate person--those qualities are hard to find individually in a person, and you have all of these!!

  • Kate33
    Kate33 Member Posts: 1,936
    edited March 2011

    barbe- Good luck on your interview!  Let us know what happens.

    MBJ- It's always hard trying to get a flight attendant job. (Most people think there's a whole lot of glamour involved in the job which there definitely is not!)  But right now it's really crazy between the economy and the fact that the airlines will now hire people up into their 60's!  Southwest opened up applications twice and both times their system crashed within an hour because too many people logged on.   I think I need to head off in a different direction.  Thanks for all your kind words, though.  You always make me feel better! 

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited March 2011

    Karen:  I am so sorry to hear about your grandmother.  I lost mine when I was a teenager to colon cancer.  Cancer just sucks!!!

    Kate:  I have survivor guilt, too.  I see all of these women who have had the same stats as myself just to have it come back with a vengence before they are even through their surgeries.  It is just wrong that so many women still die from this.  It makes me even angrier that the general population believe that BC is now something you get and can be cured from.  They have no idea what we go through unless they have been through it themselves.  So many people told me, oh so and so had a lumpectomy and they were back to work in a week.  I was lucky to catch it early but I was unlucky to have an aggressive form of it.  I was lucky a MX was able to get rid of it I was unlucky to lose a breast.  We have all lost our confidence, our good health, our jobs, some of us so much more than this.  It can just be so devastating!

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 7,605
    edited March 2011

    Ladies thanks for the good luck! I had a GREAT interview!!! The guy actually said that I was the perfect image they were looking for! I've been selling furniture and appliances, this job is for a jewelry store - Michal Hill (from Australia). I am going for store manager. If I get it, I will get a yearly trip to Australia!! Their base salary for management is as much as I am making right now for the past 4 years in 100% commission!!! Then I can make monthly and yearly bonuses too. OMG I hate to pray for myself, so someone please ask God to allow what is best for me to happen....thanks!!!

    I  have to do an online test that they will forward to me, then another interview with the divisional manager, then training and the store opens April 1st! So they have to decide quick. Only problem I saw is black and white wardrobe only....sigh. I don't (or didn't) do white well...I'll have to see if I can get lacy, pretty tops in white under a black jacket (I have tons of black, but normally mix it with colour!). He even urged me to ask for immediate benefts and 3 weeks holidays (that's what he got) when I talk to the divisional guy.

    eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Kate33
    Kate33 Member Posts: 1,936
    edited March 2011

    barbe- WOOOOO HOOOOOO!!!!!!!  So happy for you that it went so well!  I really hope you get it.  It sounds like a great job, especially that trip to Australia once a year!  (Hope they send you in the dead of winter in ON!)  I would love the black and white wardrobe thing!  Makes dressing so much easier- mix and match!  Sending good vibes you get the job!!!!!

  • karen333
    karen333 Member Posts: 2,037
    edited March 2011

    Barbe, that job sounds perfect and a great stepping stone, travel to Australia too!! It sounds like you aced the interview, I'll be praying for you.  MBJ, thank you for your condolences, I lost my mom to colon cancer, my dad to lung that metastized to his brain.  It is a horrid disease that takes so many people so young, my dad was 57 and a firefighter, long before the days of air masks, I always thought that contributed to it. So many on his crew passed away young from some type of cancer.  It is unbelieveable to me how so many people think this is a one shot deal, get your surgeries, chemo, rads, and you are good to go.  When all of us know, we are constantly looking over our shoulder.  I am so thankful to be on this site, where we all speak the same language, and can relate so well.  Karen 

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited March 2011

    Barbe:    You can DO IT!!!!!  Ph that sounds like an amazing job and you passed the first test if he was giving you pointers!!!  Most jobs like that require all black so be happy you can mix in a little white, lol!  I will be sending you many good thoughts!!!  And Austrailia once a year-oh my!!!

  • didel
    didel Member Posts: 733
    edited March 2011

    Barb that is awesome!! I hope you get the job and its everything you want and more!! Austrailian once in a lifetime sounds amazing!! Also sending positive vibes your way for lots of success in the rest of the interview process!!

    Well ladies thanks to all your kind words of encouragement and support...I wiped away my tears and marched into the managing partners office of the firm I am consulting with during tax season. I told him how concerned I was about the lack of hours and I told him I was and have been fully committed to the firm for the last 8 years and how I appreciated all their support but I need work and if they didnt have the hours for me I had to go elsewhere. We'll just say I am now sitting on a pile of work!! Tongue out Thanks for helping me find my balls and giving me the strength to stand up for myself. Don't get me wrong ...I still bought a Mega Million ticket Wink

    Happy Thursday!

    Diane

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 7,605
    edited March 2011

    Diane, good for you! As women, we rarely ask for what we want, never mind what we need! Do you think they were just cutting you some slack? Or was it going down hill in hours since your diagnosis?

    My Dad died of his lung cancer before he got brain mets. Thank God. He was in enough pain as it was.....He was almost 72. My Mom died when she was 67. That sounds so young now!!

  • Stanzie
    Stanzie Member Posts: 1,611
    edited March 2011

    Oh Barb - !!!! So happy for you and I'll keep fingers and toes crossed it all comes through! You so deserve a nice break!!! Don't worry about the clothes - we will all help ! Fashion show!!!

    Barb -interesting point in regard to Didel ? Hmm Hope you won't be totally swamped now! But they must want to keep you so that is good. 

     Glad things seem good today!

     

  • didel
    didel Member Posts: 733
    edited March 2011

    Oh no they were not cutting me slack. They lost a couple big clients and one partner in particular is on a cost cutting rampage. They were overworking salaried people and not giving the contract employees (me and two others) any work. The other two are part timers who don't care if they have work as they both have full time jobs (and penises..or is it peni) anyhow...the guys weren't complaining but for me this is the time of year I make most of my money for the year and they know that. I now only have one and a half months to catch up on all the hours I lost. They promised me there would be more work after 4/15 deadline but we'll see. I've known these guys for 20 years and they know work is important to me and I tend to burry myself in it. I know times are tough all around but I committ myself to them fully during tax time. Next year I will take on another firm during tax time to ensure I have 50 hrs a week of work. I won't be swamped by my standards. It makes me feel good and "normal" to be busy back to work. I guess that was one of the reasons i melted down. Aside from the money, mentally I need to keep busy.

    Thanks for your thoughts! Have a nice evening

    Back to work for me, I am working from home today/tonight as my puppy has been sick and banned from doggie daycare.

    Good night

    Diane

  • Kate33
    Kate33 Member Posts: 1,936
    edited March 2011

    DiDel- Way to kick some butt, girl!  You are my new hero!  I need to take some assertiveness training from you!  So glad you asked for what you wanted and you got it!  (Is that how that is supposed to work?  Huh, might have to try that with a few males around my house!  LOL!)

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited March 2011

    DiDel:   Wahooooooo for you!!!!!!  That's what I'm talking about.  I am so happy for you!!!

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 7,605
    edited March 2011

    Great job Diane, often as women we're thought of as aggressive when we ask for what we need/want, which in a man, is a great asset!! I have never figured that out. I've had to say to some guys at work "I am not your mother, your wife or your girlfriend! So get over it! I am your coworker!"

  • didel
    didel Member Posts: 733
    edited March 2011

    Thanks Ladies. I swear coming here and being able to vent helped me take a deep breath and regroup so for that I am grateful to you all. Laughing

    Happy Friday!!

    Diane

  • karen333
    karen333 Member Posts: 2,037
    edited March 2011

    Diane, since you have known these men for 20 years and they shorted you on hours, you are perfectly in the right to take on two firms next year.  I applaude how you took them on and got additional hours.  Venting always makes me feel better too.  Karen

  • Kate33
    Kate33 Member Posts: 1,936
    edited March 2011

    I had a dream last night that I had only dreamed I had BC.  For those few nano seconds between sleep and fully awake I had this wonderful, immense sense of relief that it had all been a bad dream and I was still whole.  Then I rolled over and felt these uncomfortable unnatural foobs.  Talk about depressed.  Those few seconds felt like getting my DX all over again.  Day 362- Still waiting for my "new normal" to feel normal.   Just realized that Tuesday will be my 1 year mastectoversary.  Somehow I thought I'd feel a lot better by now.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 7,605
    edited March 2011

    Ah Kate, who gave you a timeline to feel better by??? One of the reasons I didn't get recon (besides other health issues) is that I didn't want to drag the healing on for another year or two. I feel for you....not pity!!...just empathy. I cannot imagine having more surgery to deal with.

    As for the dream of it all being a dream, I don't know if that would give me relief. There would always be the possibility that it could happen for real!!!! Always that sword hanging over our heads....