Implant Exchange (oYo) ~ Anyone go/stay SMALL?? (B cup)
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SandyBeach What was your imput on spanx? BTW I measure a 31 and will be getting Allergen Natrelle (I think) mid range profile style 15 - 371CC or 397CC with fat grafting to the lower pole. I am expecting to be a full B small C. I used to be an A/B wearing a 34B or A depending on the style. 36B is almost the same size as 34A. My PS knows I want to be bigger than before but smaller than these TEs.0
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Thanks Lago, I have the Allergen Natrelle high profile style 20-400. My TE's were filled to 370 and they were a bit "out there" but, all in all, a nice projection for clothes! My implants fill out the bra beautifully, I must say. But I still need to wear a bit of a padded bra to give me the appearance of a bust in clothes. I guess my former self had tiny A's but they were pliable so I could "form" them into a pretty shape in my padded bra. These are solid and don't move much. I can't reshape them, for sure.
How do you already know you need fat grafting? And why to your lower pole?
And Lago, I'm built like you. No fat above the belly button. I think that's what why the PS insists I don't have enough fat to work with. The next visit to her, I'm going to strip to my panties and give her a show. Maybe she'll come around after seeing how good I can make things jiggle.
I don't have good advice on spanx, but I do use the off brands when I need them. Less is more though, don't you think? If you can get away with panties instead of girdle style, you'll be so much more comfortable!
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SandyB Sounds like I'm going to be little wider than you and have a little less projection unless that's why my PS is doing fg in the lower pole. My PS seems to think there is plenty on my love handles. I have never used any support garments before. I don't find them comfortable. I really hope the panties will work but I might pick up a higher pair today just in case.0
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Gosh, I miss having anything to report on here! I am still waiting for my appointment the first week of August (planning to sneak in with my husbands appt on July 1 and have him look at me and get me on surgical calendar for August 3, if possible) and get surgery that same week to restart the process if possible.
I am still sporting my VS bombshell bra with nothing to put in it, but there is really no room for boobage anyway. It is all padding. No wonder they say it makes you two cups bigger. YOu have to stuff it all into this little tiny area!
I agree with SandyBeach! I love reading all the conversations via email, and then if I don't log on immediately, it is off to a new topic. Still my favorite message board because we are all obessing about something other than the breast cancer treatments. I am glad to have something else to worry about that is more pleasant...like how cute my boobs will look after they are redone.
It turns out the person in charge of infectious diseases in the surgical center I go to is a neighbor and her son was my nephew's roomie in college. I have talked with her a couple of times and have told her when I come in for surgery, I want to know the room is scrubbed and clean, and staff also prepares extra hard. NO MORE PSEUDOMONAS for me!
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Sandy, I support you in pushing your PS a little harder about the FG. Her excuses weren't all that great....especially.. "you can hide it in a bra"! What the hell? And as far as possible fat lumps causing cause for tumor concern... I'm required to get an MRI every year so I assume that could distinguish between a fat lump and a tumor? I'll ask my PS about that at my pre-op appt. And about not having enough fat ..... heck girlfriend... that can be easily taken care of....start downing some twinkies!!
Fluffqueen ~ crossing my fingers for a Aug 3rd date for you!!
Sue ~ Boobie Bump!! Love it!!!!!! LOL!
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Fluff Queen, you should go in with your Lysol cans spraying!
Oh! And to respond to an earlier post, I too have a million bras now. I keep trying and retrying all of them on trying to talk myself into returning some of the them. I got carried away at the VS sale. The ones with too much padding make me look like I'm saggy though so they'll have to go... (The pad sits below the breast now, instead of pushing it up.)
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fluffqueen01 I'm sure there is now a scarlet "P" on your chart. They should be very careful from now on.0
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Thanks Susan! I was posting and missed your post! I have the fat, I mean, how much do they really need to fill in those little divets and ripples anyway??? I love my PS but sometimes I think a man might have been more into the beauty of things. She's definitely a practical lady and looks at things a little differently. I should take a lesson from her... Nah.
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Sandy- I noticed that with the VS bras too... the "padded" ones just don't really work with the implants for me. And how many did you buy???!!! lol!
I have to confess that I've gone a little overboard on ebay! I've already bid/won SEVEN just last week! One being a Chantelle that is identical to the one I got at my Nordstrom fitting for $68...purchased on ebay for $15! Everything I bought was under $20 and they are all "nice brands" like Wacoal, Chantelle & LeMystere. Thankfully, I was outbid on quite a few others otherwise I would have had to take out a loan!! ... I'm sure it was Cameron! lol!
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Susan, can you let me know what the PS says about the fat lumps feeling like tumors? I agree that it wouldn't take much to clear it up but how often would that occur, really? I'm so glad to have you guys to learn from! If not for these convo's I wouldn't even know fat grafting was an option! My PS wouldn't have mentioned it.
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Gosh I cant wait for my new PS then....UGH. I am so happy with my guy right now but only have him one, maybe two more appointments and then a lady doc comes in!! Im nervous for my future nipple.
Fluff - fingers crossed!
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I sure will Sandy. I remember the PS and I conversing about it before... but can't remember his exact answer..whatever it was.. it obviously alleviated my concern. I will ask again. My PS is really positive about FG.. he pushed the local hospital to get the equip so it could be done there. (Like your PS said... they take out your fat and process it somehow right there in the operating room and then inject a portion of it back in). My PS thinks it really is where the future of reconstruction surgery is heading.
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SandyB My PS says that only 30-40% of the fat transferred stays. The rest absorbs into the body. For this reason I do believe the tend to over correct and of course need more fat to do that. Maybe that's part of ths issue.0
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And Sandy... they do not need that much fat to work with. My PS said he could take it from abdomen, thighs, butt..anywhere! Unless you are related to Skelator, you should be good to go!
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lago...my PS said the more "rounds" you have of FG.... the more success you have with it "taking" each time. He said average successful FG requires about 2 to 3 "rounds".
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I remember vaguely my PS mentioning some revisions might be required but they won't be done at the hospital… some other surgical center when I first met with him. Not sure if he is planning on other rounds or if that is included in my quote. My gut says no. More rounds would be additional charge… but we'll see.
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So Lago, why wouldn't insurance cover some of it? My PS told me insurance covers revisions but I don't know to what extent.
And Susan, I think it's funny that if I was a plastic surgery junkie I would have lipo and a tummy tuck in a heartbeat and my PS thinks I don't have enough to work with. Really? She is a bit conservative so maybe that's the issue.
Sue, I'm thinking positive thoughts that your new PS Lady is awesome!
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Hey guys! I've been back to work full time, I missed too much to comment on; this thread moves so fast :-)
Susan, LOL at me outbidding you on Ebay! Don't you go blaming me; unless it was a Freya it's not even on my radar anymore. Well I gotta get ready for work. I'm spoiled now, working part-time was such a beautiful thing...full-time just seems unfair somehow. But I guess somebody's gotta bring home the bacon. Literally!
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me too...taking a break from bringing home the bacon....oh, to be healthy and rich and unemployed. Oh, yeah, with nice boobies, too!
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My PS is out of network so his charge is only paid at 60% of what they consider customary charge which so far has been very low compared to what they would pay a doctor in network. The charges for everything else (surgical hospital, anesthesia etc) is in-network so it's not quite as bad as it sounds but it still adds up.
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Hi!
I just came back from my PS and ...drum roll, please... I'm getting fat grafting!!!!!
To back up a bit, I showed up and he hasn't seen me in 3 months, he took one look and smiled huge, then proceded to say they were (in his words) "g-d damn amazing" ...I have healed well and symmetry is right on, I was relieved to see his face and amazement.
When we spoke of the divots, he said he would do the FG if I wanted. Then he proceeded to take a pinch at my love handles, guess that's the 'money spot'
As we were talking he went on about the procedure. I have read about it and knew enough but let him talk away, upon my psycho-googling of my ps every now and again, I read that he has worked with Dr Khouri, a reknowned PS in FL. It seems this Dr has been a leader in the whole thing, so I feel pretty confident in my PS's abilities about it. I won't have it done till after the summer, I am not up for anesthesia or any recovery-time right now, I just wanna have some fun. As we talked my PS starts in on the whole lipo-thing, he says, ya know, a lot of women come in for the FG and decide on more lipo, if you want we could do a discounted rate for a little extra lipo...well, I think I might have lost my marbles for a minute because I actually contemplated it! In all reality I really just want the FG, then done! But my shopping-gene kicked in and I thought well, who can resist a sale?!?!
I called my hub after, all excitred from my appt and quickly came back down to reality...seriously, the last thing I need to be spending money on is a tummy-tuck and lipo!!! ...but man, for a second it sounded way better than continuing to sweat my ass off at the gym! ;-)I'm curious as to how much he will need, I didn't get all the details because I'll go back the end of august to get the details, but YAY!!!! Do I have serious problems that I am excited for this? I want a natural slope to my new boobs, I don't wear strapless clothes (like, ever) but if I ever did I'd want my chest to look more natural.
I wasn't told about having rounds of FG, he just said to set up an appt for FG like it was a one-time thing...why do some people have multiple rounds and know prior to the 1st round? Do you know why, Susan?
So, Sandy, I would push a little harder. If you have divots and don't want them, inquire again. There's no reason you should have to settle for wearing a bra to "fix" the issue...
I just remembered that my BS said if you feel anything different, even if it feels like a mosquito bite, come on in and we'll take a look, I think little nodules are common enough with FG and it kinda sounds like she is shutting you down with some "rationale" that doesn't make sense...
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and I must add it, I laughed sooo hard at the chest-bump-thing, Sue!!!! hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!
...kinda like a hi-five, but a hi-foob
and Susan, when Sue and I meet we will HAVE to take a pic, I'll plan on wearing my tightest shirt so y'all can get a close look-see!!!
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oh, and I wanted to mention, Sandy, as far as the whole placement of the implants, I was such a crazy-lady about keeping my foobs as up and in as possible, I worried (now I know, unnecessarily) I "trained" them too well. When you are making scar tissue, from what I gather that is the crucial time for keeping the implants where they should be. (what I refer to in my oh-so-medical-jargon way as "locked and loaded"!) Essentially, they should stay in the location they were surgically put in, but if you had pocket-work (like me) I hear that sometimes the implant can migrate a bit from the orginal location. I am far from an expert on the subjuect, but that's kinda what I meant by my post yesterday...hope that explains it a bit! :-)
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sorry for all the posts, trying to fit in computer-time before I run and grab the girls at school...never know when I might get back on here once they are home!
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fire-dancer If your PS is using Dr. Kouri's method then that's probably why only 1 needed. From what I have read this method puts the fat in drop by drop and therefore more of the fat stays. Yes I too read a lot about Dr. Kouri when I first got here. Really interesting to read these developments.0
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Crud Megan the pressure is on if YOURE wearing your tightest shirt! Dang! At least Ill be out of the surgical bra by then....looks like I go shopping soon! Ill look fab 3 weeks out of surgery, no sun (antibiotics) and no exercise....and Im OLD. BLAH!
And yeah on the fat grafting! Im curious to see how it goes...even though I cant imagine you have much to spare!!
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Woot Woot on the fat grafting Megan!!!! ... and guess what... I actually ASKED my PS if he could give me a discount and take more fat than he needs!! lol!! ...I thought as long as he's in there.. why the hell not!! He said we could talk about it when we schedule the LAST FG... he said he doesn't want to use up too much fat if he needs to do more rounds. Use up too much fat?? Yeah right.. like THAT's gonna happen!
And my PS knew about Dr. Khori too! I actually brought it up when I was asking about the FG procedure... he couldn't believe I knew about him. Then he told me that he is actually using the BRAVA system on one of his reconstruction patients right now! ...so I suppose my PS using the same FG method as Dr.Khori?? More questions!!!
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Lago - thanks for clarifying! I am familiar that Dr K's method of drop by drop has a good success rate, but I wasn't entirely sure of the difference between that way and other FG ways. I'm excited to read up some more now that I know I'll actually be having it.
Sue - knowing me I'll wear something flowy! I've never been a real tight shirt-gal! ...I think my love handles have been holding me back, so maybe come September I'll bust out a stretchy top!?! haha!!!
To be honest, I don't plan on seeing a whole lot of difference in my hip-area from FG, it seems from what PS says that if you realllly want to see a change ya gotta go full-on lipo...that is my area of 'weakness' tho - my arms, legs and butt are thin, but the mid-section tends to hold on to the extra pounds, I work out a ton, but I sabotage myself every weekend by indulging on food I shouldn't, not to mention the Corona Lights & wine I had last weekend, you'd think I'd know better, but I'm a sucker for good eats and good wine! ;-)
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Susan - my hub would change our bank accounts on me if I went ahead and did full-lipo - we are saving for a house and desperatley need and want to move to a bigger house by the beach. So it's either me and my flat abs hanging out in a cardboard box, or leaving the money in the bank! Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to have more done, hell, you're absolutely right, why not do it up while you're at it? My PS said that was common, maybe I just need a little time to discuss with the hub ...maybe if I promise him I'll sport tight t-shirts and low-rise jeans for life he'll get on board?!?! LOL 0
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So Susan, jog my memory, were you able to tell the difference in the area fat was taken after the 1st round?
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