Stupid comments ....
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Jelson - that cracks me up! Thank you!!
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Jelson, hilarious!!! Using our powers in this way would be the ultimate junk punch, I think. No doubling over, though, just an uneasy feeling.
MsP
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Jelson .... I'm still laughing!0 -
I think I can, I think I can, I think I can....
Leah
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hi you and I are BC twins, same time and same diagnosis..I am 63 though......
I feel good...real,good....
I have found that some people don't even want to talk about it...they will do anything to avoid the subject and that hurts my feelings too.
I have felt good about my Cancer so far .... Things look positive for me and I have found the whole journey so far very easy.....knock on wood.......
I wish you well .....
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I usually just lurk on this thread..... but the last page really got me thinking. I've now told DH that he really must stop thinking about my breast cancer because he will get it if he thinks about it too much! Honestly where do people get this stuff from? GG
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I may stay awake all night tonight just thinking this beast away and out of my body! Maybe skip chemo Thursday? Just stay home and think about it.
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Beatmon, I will be awake anyway, from the steroid high. I guess I'll put my thinking cap on while I watch Netflix!
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while I'm thinking,, let me think away my carpal tunnel,,, that will work too, right?
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had a job interview, shortly into rads.
Arsehole interviewer asked if HE could SHARE his knowledge with me, and that lemons prevent cancer. Uh huh. I said well, my support group and oncos office is chuck full of ladies who epitomized health prior to dx, in food, exercise, etc. and that sometimes it did not matter. He looked stunned at the thought!
Did not get the job.
all this has made me much more thoughtful in what I say. I'm Horrified to think that I have been the arsehole to others in the past.
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hey ladies- been lying a bit low in my chemo group- started almost 3 weeks ago, and I'm doing ok. Jack is a big help. I guess I'm not too surprised that the stupid comments keep coming.... But it was nice to hear about RG's hottie with a heart, and the other doctor who showed some compassion.what a tough job they have.
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Oh I am thinking aliens will visit me tonight and zap every cancer cell in my body.
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heeheeheee, Meow, did the aliens come??0 -
Bippy625
I was told to eat avocados and nuts. No matter how many avocados I eat, that chunk of flesh missing from my breast will not grow back. Idiot.
Here is another, Cancer is man created by the toxins in our lives. Hippocrates, in 370 AD described cancer with autopsies and drawing. We did not have pesticides in 370 AD. Cancer has existed since mankind has existed.
Anther stupid comment "We have more cancer today than years ago" NO We do not. We have more diagnostic abilities. People use to die of consumption. There were sanitariums all over the world from 1830's to 1900's for consumption (called that because patients were consumed by the illness). Some had TB. Do you know anyone with consumption today? Any sanitariums still open? It was friggin cancer.!
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RaiderGirl - Yes I know someone who recently had TB - a refugee from south east asia - and in the past, a relative - right after WW2 and coworker's mom - in the early 1950's were sent to sanitariums. there really was a TB epidemic and it certainly exits today among immuno-compromised populations (HIV) and the elderly who were exposed in their youth but whose resistance breaks down with age. You don't hear about it much because there are many drugs that are used to cure it, so sanitariums aren't necessary. There is a vaccine - which while it doesn't prevent it throughout a person's lifetime - does make it less likely that it will be contracted in infancy/early childhood - my son, born in Brasil, was vaccinated at birth. This vaccine, BCG, is not used in the US because it supposedly screws up the results of the skin tests used to determine whether you have been exposed to TB. New strains of multiply-drug resistant TB are often in the news. Resistance occurs when people don't complete their TB medicine regimen - they can then contract and spread the super-strains to others. I learned more than i ever wanted to know about TB in the 1990s because i worked on developing a program to pay people to monitor TB infected patients take their daily medications.Your point however, that cancer was probably misdiagnosed in the past is probably true - but I do think that there is more cancer now- mainly because we are living longer and therefore have more time for the cellular mutations which ultimately become cancer to manifest themselves. Infact that was my takaway from The Emperor of All Maladies - that cancer is a fact of life.
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I work as an historian in an old cemetery archive. Back in the "olden days" (as my wee nephew calls it), medical knowledge was, of course, not as extensive as today and diseases not as well understood. When it was very evident that cancer directly caused someone's death, then "canker" or "tumor" was entered into the register. But, if the cancer had remained undiagnosed, which it often did, the obvious symptom that the individual was suffering from was what was entered into the registers. "Dropsy", i.e., a systemic build-up of fluid in the abdomen (i.e., ascites) was a symptom of many diseases, cancer included. "Phthisis" or "atrophy" described the emaciation that could apply to advanced, metastatic cancer, as well as other diseases such as tuberculosis or nephritis. "Bule" meant boil or tumor. "Carbuncle", also, referred to a large skin boil or skin tumor/cancer. "Scirrhus" referred to a cancer of the connective tissue and "tympany" could refer to either a boil, swelling, or tumor. Also, someone suffering from bone metastasis, could believe that their pain is caused by "rheumatism". "Appoplexy" referred to death by seizure; could have been a stroke, could have been a brain tumor. So, no, when you look through old death records, there doesn't appear to be a lot of cancer, but it is there if you know what to look for.
Another thing that BUGS ME (yes, I'm on a rant), is when people say, "... well, ancient fossilized human remains show little evidence of cancer, therefore, cancer is a modern disease..." NO IT ISN'T, YOU NITWIT!!!! Cancer has been detected in the bones of ancient people; however, most cancer tends to be carcinomas, i.e., cancers of the soft tissue. Soft tissue decomposes- and disappears over time, ergo, so too would the "evidence" of cancer. So a lack of anthropological evidence does not mean that cancer didn't exist.
However, raidergirl I do need to point out (lovingly ) that "consumption" was the archaic term used primarily for tuberculosis; however, what a lot of people don't realize is that tuberculosis could affect any part of your body. We're mostly familiar today with tuberculosis of the lungs and when we think of TB, we think of this type, but TB, also, affected the bones, the brain, and other internal organs. "Consumption" was the term that covered all forms of it. However, you raise a very good point I never thought of; it's entirely possible that "consumption" could have been applied mistakenly to someone wasting away from an undiagnosed/unrecognized cancer. The outward symptoms would be very, very similar. Hmmmmm.
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hello all,
thank you raidergirl for this topic. it has helped me be kinder to my friends and family when answering their questions. and im now prepared for random strangers stupid comments.
yesterday on my facebook there was a news flash about finding a 4,200 year old 'mummy' in eygpt, she had died of breast cancer. i bet anyone $10 she never carried a cell phone in her bra, or ate at macdonalds. Cancer is not a sign of the times.
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SelenaWolf
Rant away darling, your posts are quite intelligent. I love the archival records of causes that you mentioned. I read a great deal of historical novels and history in general. There are diseases unheard of today. Dropsy I have heard mentioned so many times.
I did know that consumption was TB but I had read that it applied to diseases that caused a person to waste away. Perhaps thats not the case. Either way cancer has been with us always.
Most of the people that want to believe that cancer is a modern disease are also those that believe they can ward off most anything with the right combination of herbs, supplements, and organics. These are the people that suffer the most when they are diagnosed. Not only did the mojo not work, they now have to use toxins like chemo to beat it.
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Emperor of All Maladies-A Biography of Cancer. This is a great book. Heard about it on NPR back in 2010 and read it. Blew off the dust and read it again after BC dx. Amazing read.
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It is a great read,, and it will be on PBS. A 3 part documentary starting March 30! Check your local listings,, but that is when it is playing here.oh and the listing,, in case you do a "search" for the title: Cancer: The emperor of all Maladies.
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Wow Glennie... Thanks for the heads-up!
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Speaking of old time maladies.......I had a case of the vapors today!! Fortunately it is not life threatening...for me. LOL
MsP
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SelenaWolf- very instructive post. I always wondered about dropsy.
And the fact of tissue not remaining as evidence of cancer...very good point
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"The vapors"...is it just gas? Uncomfortable intestinal gas? Relieved by unladylike farts? I've always wondered.
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It could be a reference to typhoid fever, but - mostly - it was applied (rather patronizingly) to women suffering from depression or "women's issues" (i.e., menstruation problems, fertility problems, PMS), or hypochondria. In other words, when men couldn't figure out why women were sick.
But I like your version better...
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raidergirl.... this is an interesting post that I found on another board I follow:
"Further to ***** comment, advanced Tb clinically can easily be confused with metastatic cancer even today. As a pathologist, I always have to keep aware of the possibility of Tb when I get a biopsy from suspected cancer, and it does occasionally appear. Tb, of course, was far more common back in the “good old days” and I suspect that some deaths attributed to “consumption” were in fact due to metastatic cancer."
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sbelizabeth - I like your definition of the vapors - living in a household of males there's far too many manly vapors going on here!
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'Maybe you should get your GP to look at it' (it being my breast) 'and see whether it's cancer or not'. 1st, I don't have a GP here (in the UK) but see a different person each time, usually an intern. I do have a GP in France, but he doesn't have super powers and can definitely not diagnose cancer by looking at my breast! The poor chap didn't even expect the biopsy would turn up anything: it's a lobular, so didn't show up on the scans at all. The radiologist and the GP just wanted to be 99% sure it was a fibroadenoma they were looking at: I feel I have disappointed them. Hinting it might not be cancer after all (how often are there errors on biopsies, seriously?) is not helpful at all...0 -
It's been over two months since my diagnosis. While I did receive a few stupid comments, the no comment at all was the hardest.
The out-pouring of support I have received has been overwhelming... except my sister. No card, no call, no text. I saw her the other day and chose to ignore her.
Someone here once said you will learn who your family and friends are when diagnosed...then move on from there. Life is too short. That's what I did. It's still sad though.
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And another thing that annoys me - everyone seems to think since I had bmx I am cured. Just the other day DD said "we all have cancer cells". Sigh. I'm tired of explaining. If everyone thinks I'm cured, I'll let them go on believin'-maybe all that positive energy will wear off on me.
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