Ringworm drug for dogs (Fenbendazole) might also cure cancer

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  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Another very interesting article:

    Salinomycin as a drug for targeting stem cancer cells.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC35160...

    It is an antibiotic for chickens!

    I luv the irony

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

    Foundation One tests for TP-53, which is the gene that controls the p53.

    I had a mutation "of unknown significance" on TP-53, and my TUMOR had that one plus one that is known to be related to cancer. Common for BC patients to have TP-53 mutations.

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Santab: That is interesting. Is there any treatment for those who have that mutation or it is just an informative test?

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    The Big Brother is always watching...

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

    There was a link a few pages ago that one of the de wormers seems to re-activate "wild type" p-53 in people, which helps suppress tumors. That was intriguing!

    I think the main reason I was tested was due to having TNBC (which potentially involves BRCA). The genetic testing panel covers a list of known cancer-specific mutations... There is another mutation on TP-53 that some people have called Li Fraumeni Syndrome which is as serious as BRCA in terms of making people very prone to get various cancers.

    I think it's done to see if someone needs more treatment (eg ovaries).

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Santab: thank you. I won't even talk to my MO about that test. The breast c.a. treatment is standard here. But good to know that we have a way to stimulate p53. I'm now in my 3rd fenben cycle. Y planning to go with it during 3 months, then rest for another 3 months and so. I hope you are doing well, I like all of the natural treatments you mentioned here. Hugs

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    hi all,

    I'm going to get an echocardiogram this morning in preparation for my first Doxil infusion tomorrow morning. I'm not happy about this. In fact I’m terrified.

    I'm very stressed and can't shake the feeling that I won't be able to do it for too long, yet I don't know what else I can do to slow down the disease, other then what I’m already doing, but I'm afraid it might not be enough.

    Last night, news of a possible progression for a member that for years had been NED made me terribly sad....no one is safe from this horrible disease.

    Snooky, Goldie's where are you guys, I'm a little worried....are you okay?

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Frisky, I've being thinking about you and the others, just did not want to be invasive. I wish you doing well in doxil. Don't lose hope, good luck tomorrow! Hugs

  • goldie0827
    goldie0827 Member Posts: 6,835

    Well, the UTI has returned. I guess the anti b's just kind of worked for the moment, as when I was in the hospital the second time, there was no sign of UTI. So now they are sending it in for culture, hoping it will grow and they can determine the best anti b? But there is a chance it won't grow well, because of the being on anti b in the last few weeks. Got 2 more litres of fluid. This has been going on for a month, I'm tire of being tired and worn out all the time. I haven't done any house cleaning in month! I can tell I have lost muscle from sitting and laying around all the time! On a new anti b, and only taking that, my Gama E, milk thistle. No FZ or even my chemo pills. Labs tomorrow, hoping those liver enzymes have come down!

  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    Hi Frisky and Y----I too will be thinking/praying for you tomorrow. I know what it's like to have to do something totally against your beliefs.

    Physically, I'm ok, I guess. Emotionally, doing some deep thinking, like you. Trying to figure out what "I" want my future to be.

    A big warm cyber Hug....

  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    Goldie....we just posted at the same time. I'm so sorry that you're going through this. Wish I could help.


  • goldie0827
    goldie0827 Member Posts: 6,835

    Snooky, I know. I'm sure we all wish we could each of us. It's just what life has dealt us!

    Warm siber hugs for all you as well.

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    thank you all for responding ...I guess it’s just that time, when we are all dealing with various issues....and questioning our options.

    I wish you all the best!

    May we all be guided to make the right decisions and to experience some light at the end of all these dark and perturbing tunnels...

    Love to you all

  • JFL
    JFL Member Posts: 1,373

    Frisky, good luck with starting Doxil. I hope it will be much more tolerable than you are envisioning.

    Goldie, sorry to hear about the UTI setback.

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    thank you JFL...I think about you every time I want to quit...I hope I can deal with the SE...I read the posts on the Doxil thread and got depressed...they all developed welts under their feet that made it impossible for them to stand or walk, plus the unbearable fatigue....and mouth sores....one of them quit after the first infusion she was so unhappy.

    I have also taken note of all the tips you shared on how to minimize some problems..I'm grateful for the precious information you shared, which I will use tomorrow. Today I minimized frictions on my hands and feet.

    The biggest problem I have is believing that poisoning myself and damaging other major organs—while the cancer keeps on growing anyway—offers an advantage over doing nothing....doesn't the cancer get very aggressive when aggressively attacked?

    And don't the oncologists ALWAY loose? So why fight? To allow a dysfunctional and inept medical system to profit from our misery? Our unbearable suffering and demise are always the end result....

    I reread Z's posts the other day and cried. It's amazing how pro active and knowledgeable she was with the choice of her treatments, how hard she fought, and yet none of us could believe it when she suddenly and quietly left this reality. It makes me want to surrender, to give up...if she couldn't survive, what chance do I have? None!

    And I find nothing more disgusting and disconcerting than to be cheered on, as we are taken into the gas chambers, with hopes of magical breakthroughs—that will never happen, ...anger and indignation would be a more appropriate response to this crisis plus the constant ridiculing of our stupid and inept doctors with their dangerous and useless medications would also be a more natural and intelligent response.

    I apologize in advance for the unedited honesty of my venting...I do hope those of you that believe in positive thinking carry-on unabated...once in a blue moon, MIRACLES not cures have been known to happen, ...so let's hope that all of us on FenBen experience that miracle...for me, right now, that's my only remaining hope...I have lost all trust in the system.


  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    My heart is breaking for you Frisky, you just said all the same thoughts that have been rambling around in my mind since Radiation ended. All it did was make me miserable. And now my left leg hurts constantly....neuropathy? I imagin so.

    We have just so destroyed this planet. Have made it toxic to live on. I won't go on.. Been in a mood.

    On a HOPEFUL note---I start my 11th week of FenBen today.

    The only way I can get thru this is by putting it in God' hands. There's a reason this is happening to me, I don't know what it is but, I believe with every fiber of my being that GOD is In control of my situation.

    Praying for you tonight Frisky

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    Snooky so sorry to read about your leg...I so hope you feel better soon. I'm sure you know what you have to do to detox and rebuild your strength....this too shall pass! XXXOOO x

  • EMAW
    EMAW Member Posts: 99

    Frisky,

    I was on Doxil for a year and never experienced hand/foot syndrome.

    After shortened cycle of Xeloda, I did develop h/f/s so I know what it is.

    Doxil is a good drug but my Oncs like to rX the high doses, so it had to be adjusted down twice, then I finally saw a mixed result.

    Do not worry unless your MO has a habit of not listening to you.

    Miriam

  • EMAW
    EMAW Member Posts: 99

    Frisky,

    Also, with regard to mouth sores, I take 2000 mg. of the amino acid, Lysine, per day.

    Keeps the mouth sores in check for me.

  • EMAW
    EMAW Member Posts: 99

    Snooky,

    I’m doing Fenbendazole as well.

    Miriam (below with my husband in Williamsburg in December

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  • Okiemomof4
    Okiemomof4 Member Posts: 10

    This is not a scam. The man in the article used to work with my husband and was, indeed, a walking skeleton with months to live. The dog wormer seems to have killed his cancer

  • nicolerod
    nicolerod Member Posts: 2,877

    Frisky,

    I am with you...I feel exactly the way you mentioned in your post. People keep telling me (here in my home life) "you sound so positive, so good"...I am like "no i am just in denial"...and I am...I mean I sit here and say "Stage IV cancer??? What??? Nooooo can't be, that's not how I pictured myself dying.... no way"... yup I am in denial. Then when reality hits and I see everyone on here, OK ALMOST everyone nearly making it to 3 years...I am like WTF???? I am going to be dead in 3 -4 years..wow?!?!

    You said in your post "so why fight it".... I know, I agree but I guess we have hope in us even when we think we shouldn't, it's just there somehow. At least that's how I feel. I was just saying today that I needed to get something at ULTA a cosmetic that ran out of...and then I am like Why bother??? right?? I have all these thoughts and not that I am not even having hot flashes I am like wow is the end gonna come even sooner??

    Anyway I just wanted to say Vent away....vent all you want I get it.

    (((((hugs)))))

    Nicole


  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Frisky! I'm thinking about you today. I think exactly like you about medical treatments. Maybe you can kick doxil butt sooner than you think! Did you read Okiomomof4 post? Today is mi five week of fenben. Thinking about Snooky, Goldie and her DD, Blainejennifer, Husband, Mike, Chicago and all of whom were being in this thread. I wish healing for all of us, guys!

  • GreekNinja
    GreekNinja Member Posts: 22

    Hey guys, I too get the same feelings you have all expressed, I suppose we all do. 'The doctors know nothing really, I'm in some sort of denial ' etc etc...but what I also know is that there are many promising treatments coming through the pipeline. Cancers that were death sentences just a few years ago are now curable. The same will happen for BC. It's just a matter of time. The trick is to be here for it. Yes there are miracles but science has also provided cures. Where there is life there is hope and we are all still living. XXX

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

    I have a girlfriend who was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer.... in 2014.

    She is on an EFGR mutation biologic agent and today is NED

  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850
  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

    Nothing on this list is a food! Nobody should be eating these frankenfoods!

    Stuff that does not spoil = too many preservatives / modifications.

  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    Oh, I know Santa, I dumped that stuff from my diet years ago. But what about the folks that do eat it? and the kids? they don't deserve cancer for making bad food choices.

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

    I feel bad for the people who live in "food deserts" which only offer crappy choices like these.

    Food is the fuel we run on. It is self-evident to me that foods matter to healing and wellness. (And it is self evident to breeders of champion animals!) Yet many people on BCO get upset if anyone recommends certain eating or exercise practices to reduce risk or avoid recurrences. Lots of evidence for pescatarian diet, low animal fats, nutrient-densefoods, and regular aerobic exercise.