Ringworm drug for dogs (Fenbendazole) might also cure cancer
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yes Simone, you don't have to stop chemotherapy for FZ to work...after you get clean scans, you can decide on how to continue...
I personally will stop conventional therapies, will pop a bottle of champagne, and move back to Italy, my family and old friends...a change I was ready to undergo five years ago, before I was diagnosed, when all my plans came to a screeching halt....
Yndorian salinomycin seems to be another powerful cancer killing machine, have you found the description or instructions on how much and how often to take it? Is there a clear and effective protocol?
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Nichole this is a long PDF file. If you just click on the link it should open and ask if you want to view or download it. You can also save it to file if you wis
Try and see if it works.
IF you cannot get it to open, it's no biggie. It's just showing an article in a medical magazine "Alternative Medicine' which talks about Joe and his journey. There's no real new info that we don't already know. It's all about showing us that Joe is getting more public exposure.
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Frisky, your plan sounds perfect! My aunt plans to buy a house in Sicily and she invited me to travel with her. God willing! I would also like to know Venezia (La Serenissima), Cinqueterre, La Toscana ... What a beautiful country!
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Sonia, I’m sure everything will turn out okay for you. You will soon get to visit Italy and live with your aunt in Sicily. Best time to travel is in the early fall, when everyone is busy either in schools or back at work...less crowded but temperatures are still excellent to even take sea baths
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Thank you Frisky...
I have to do more search about salinomycin. I promise I will posting everything I can find.
Good night to all of you, my fenben partners!
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Y lol that article is a bit over my head but, am I correct in reading that it has been researched and in trials for over a decade? Also, is It available over the counter?
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Snooky, is what always happens with all effective but cheap drugs, right? They are investigated for years but never get approved. This drug is over the counter at least in my country. You can found it easely because it is widely used in chicken hatcheries. It is added in chiken's food. We should investigate the minimum effective dose in humans.
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Yes Y that sure is what happens. Thanks for the info, I'll sure check it out. Do you know about soursop? (think that is spelt right) They know that seeping the leaves is anti-cancer and one drug company tried for 7 yrs to isolate the chemical in soursop so they could isolate it and make a big money drug. Well they couldn't do it. So, all research was dropped! Did they tell anyone to drink tea? heck no.
My dau-in-law, God bless her, is Pilipino and she was telling me about a tree that grew in her back yard. Whenever, anyone was sick her grandmother would boil the leaves from the tree and force the sick person to drink it. Guess it tastes awful but by next morning whatever the problem was it was gone... Name of tree soursop.
She also told me that her aunt has been self doctoring her breast tumor for years! All I can find out is she uses soursop tea, juiced carrots and sweet potatoes. Of course none of their crops have herbicide/pesticide/ etc. They garden in back yards with just compost.
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FRISKY You mentioned bison burgers... Just barely caught TV news talking about a recall due to ecoli.
Please don't eat more till you see if yours are part/or not part of this recall..
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Snooky, thank you for bringing up soursop. I am very interested in research concerning natural compounds. Its very sad to realize how much potential is out there that gets overlooked or that doesnt get enough funding.
Anyway, I looked up sousop (that goes by a lot of names btw) and found this recent paper (2018). It briefly mentions the case of a woman with MBC that was stable on Xeloda and sousop tea for 5 years.
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Thanks Daniel Also there's a lot of info about soursop on PubMed.
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Snooky thank you for the warning about the bison burger ecoli contamination....it's always something isn't
I'll have couple eggs this morning....
On a different note: a few members have recently, quickly progressed with liver lesions after starting capecitabine. There seems to be a strong correlation between the two as the capecitabine is processed in the liver....I myself progressed with damage and lesions to the liver while on it....so be careful you all...she says as she's undergoing another chemotherapy that's even more damaging....it's like Russian roulette or a deadly game of musical chairs we involutarly are being forced to play out there....isn't it?
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Snooky: Yes! I know that plant and I know it's very good! I had been drinking tea from soursop leaves, we call it "graviola". And some other herbal teas with anticancer effects. Unfortunately I took them while I had nausea from chemotherapy ... big mistake! Now I can not even smell it ... it seems that my brain related nausea to herbs. Advice for those who have nausea with chemotherapy: do not eat your favorite foods while you have those "bad days"🤮
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I was looking into the salinomycin treatment, and the articles I ran across showed treatment was done using intravenous salinomycin, not oral. That really creates a problem for simulating that at home.
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Husband11: Yes, you are right. Unfortunately the article only describes the iv use of S. I have been trying to translate the injected quantities into oral amounts. But still, we don't t know the oral absorption % of the drug. I could only find out that the drug is mixed in animals food at 60 ppm.
I will continue searching ...
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doxycycline is another antibiotic that is orally administered and has the same kinds of effects.
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What a bunch of chatty Kathy's.
Snooky I too wanted to comment on your fast food synopsis of cancer, chuckle a few times through out the day over that.
I will try and check in soon. I got sick again last night. Fever all night and uncontrollable chills/shaking. Fever 101-103. Wish I knew what was going on with my body. I can only think that UTI is back. I did start on the FZ yesterday, but can't imagine that is it!
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Goldie keep on checking your temperature and don't hesitate to get some help. I have been warned recently about the dangers of rising temperatures.
If you have to be on antibiotics, like santabarbarian reminds us, try to get the doxycycline prescribed, as it's one off label medication that blocks one of the pathways, it will be therefore useful in more ways than one
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Sonia, that happened to me too...when I underwent radiation therapy, a friend made me a wonderful plate of roasted salmon and vegetables that I normally loved, but since I lacked appetite, I didn't eat it, and since then, I can't stand that particular dish or salmon....
There are exceptions....I believe that no cachexia could ever get in the way of my enjoyment of tiramisu...or authentic Italian pizza....like the one I bake with imported ingredients...the anchoring for those foods is very profound...goes back to childhood...like eating a good salami sandwich the other day...Doxil is now anchored to an unforgettable feel good moment
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Goldie: I'm at home doing "nothing" literally, so I'm a serious case of chatty Kathy! LOL. Just imagine how it would be if I wouldn't need mr.google translator...I hope you get better soon of those annoying symptoms!
Frisky: You just need to add Mario del Monaco singing "Esultate" and the doxil moment will be perfect! LOL
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Someone (Snooky?) mentioned a few pages back about feeling discouraged that RomansMa (Hope) and Zarovka lost their battle relatively quickly. For those old timers who remember, Romansma was never interested in doing chemo. I think at the very end she did agree to try oral cyclophosphamide for a short period of time but refused any other chemos. She chose to go off treatment when she still had many, many options in her arsenal. She just wasn't interested in going the chemo route. Zarovka had a similar perspective. She was never interested in doing any chemo. She spent a good year trying alternative therapies, mostly out of Japan, which didn't appear to work and left her without an effective treatment for a long period of time. Before she left the boards, she did agree to try a low dose Abraxane for a limited amount of time. I suspect that around the time or after she dropped off the boards, she decided to go off treatment. I do not know that but just have a hunch that is what happened, based on her overall outlook and concerns with doing chemo. It is devastating to lose such impactful women. Both were so influential and loved here and both abruptly dropped off the boards, which we all felt as such a loss given how much each of these women was loved. However, I believe they chose to go out on their own terms.
Goldie, sorry to hear about your continued issues with temperature and other issues. In the back of my mind, I am hoping it is some reaction to the fenben, meaning it is working really well. Be safe.
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Dear all,
This is a crazily interesting thread, that shocked me a bit in an inspiring way... Do we have already some results/scans/personal indications from people who started Joe Tippen's protocol? I joined this thread just now but could someone who is for longer here possibly make the summary?
Sincerely, Saulius
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JFL...I'm glad that you explained why those women stopped coming here and that they refused chemo treatment that does explain that a lot.
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JFK-- Thank you for reminding us that the two ladies you mentioned charted their own course. I had read their stories but it's been awhile.
Actually it was Goldie who brought it up. In the context that would the end be quick? would it be painless? That sort of thing.
I had the same aversion to chemo. But when push came to shove, the looks on the faces of my kids changed my mind. Taxol worked well for me. Now that it's over, I am glad that I did it.
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Y omg, you have to use traslater to post here? Can't even imagine having to do that. Does it take much time to do that? Do you speak and English at all? And do you have to use the translater to read the posts? You go girl!
JFL, I did not know those gals were just doing natural treatment. As for my fevers, I hope it's not FZ, othewise I will have to quit. I just can't imagine something you would give to a 10 lb dog, is making me so sick! I'm hoping it all has to do with the UTI I had and they haven't been able to find the right anti b.
Saulius, I have not been on long enough and had to quit since I got sick, so I am unable to offer any positive results.
Well, I will put in a call to my primary today. Are these anti biotics just not working. This is rediculous, been going on for 6 weeks now! With a few days of feeling normal. Fever yesterday and night before only lasted about 24 hours, none last night or this morning.....so far!Well, I will put in a call to my primary today. Are these anti biotics just not working. This is rediculous, been going on for 6 weeks now! With a few days of feeling normal. Fever yesterday and night before only lasted about 24 hours, none last night, low grade this morning.
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Goldie, Please buy fem dophilus. Take it EVERY SINGLE DAY!! I had a recurrent UTI for 2 years after my radiation from breast cancer in 2015. I have only had 1 infection since. I did see a Nurse Practitioner that specializes in Lyme Disease, Interstitial Cystitis and Recurrent UTI and she had me Catherize the antibiotics into my bladder so they were not going all through my system because by the time they get to the bladder they are really only about 30% effective. Any way... the Fem Dophilus is the thing that has kept my UTI's away. You may not notice any change it takes about a month or so to get into your system. Do not misunderstand this is not a probiotic for the GUT, it has only 2 strains and they are specifically for the vaginal area and bladder. I will ever be with out it. Make sure to the refrigerator one I found the shelf stable one didn't work, not for me anyway.
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JFL, I beg to differ...as I remember it, Zarovka went to Japan twice to undergo immunotherapy not available in this country—even now. She went to the Mayo Clinic to be treated for the Mets to her brain. She was taking massive doses of Abraxane in combination with fasting for days before and after to increase the effectiveness of the chemotherapy. She was also using oxigen tanks and other modalities to increase her odds.
I honestly don’t know anyone on this board that fought as hard as she did to ensure survival....it just didn’t work because it’s a scientific fact that none of this works....we can only postpone the inevitable for so long. And the silent profiles on this board of the hundreds of people that did all the chemotherapy treatments is a testament to that unfortunate reality. Lalady for example died while on xeloda. She couldn’t overcome the cachexia. Babs did all chemotherapy treatment available to her, but eventually the heart, kidneys, liver, blood all gave up.
Now, can someone survive 20 years after being diagnosed stage 4? Of course, but the problem is that no one understands why that one person does, and millions don’t. 1600 people die of cancer every day in the US alone, and that’s the unfortunate reality.
But, it’s no use to get hung up on this, each one of us makes choices based on what we understand and believe in, what we think is good for us, we learn from each other experiences, and on this board for the past five years when people run out of treatments, I’ve sadly noticed, there are no survivors.
I do wish I could wave a magic wand that would cure at least some people....oh wait...someone is already doing that....it’s Joe Tippens and Jane Mc Falland, not NED but people that are cured and have a protocol their can share with the world. Will it work? Too soon to tell, but it’s non toxic, inexpensive and curative...hummmm I’m having a hard time deciding....
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Saulius...what a beautiful name!
We all started taking FZ less than three months ago, when we first heard of this therapy...it's suggested that it takes a minimum of three months to see any results, and some people have taken it for six also while increasing the dose to every day.
I'm getting a pet scan at the end of the month when it will be three months since I've started. I feel neutral about the outcome. I know only, that I will continue taking FZ, and introduce the off labels medications to block more pathways. I will also continue with Doxil, as long as it allows me to live independently. Being able to take care of myself is very important to me.
My MO has already told me to not expect any immediate results from the Doxil
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All of medicine is a risk/benefit analysis. For me, taking an OTC med or a well known well tolerated prescription med that has anti cancer properties is assuming a very low risk, for possible large benefit.
With TNBC, I am inclined to push that kind of effort to the max, as there are so few treatments for me other than chemo.
I go in to my MO in August so I will ask him then about doxycycline and mebendazole (and possibly a statin and low dose naltrexone) then. Everything else that's sensible and un-risky, I am already taking. I am taking things for all three pathways already.
As I do not have metastatic disease and appear to be cancer free, I think NOW is the right time to whack down any lurking stem cells. I am not thinking of a lengthy time but maybe 30 or 60 days of doxycycline and mebendazole together to clean those up. If it works correctly I don't think there's any need to take it indefinitely. With mets, it might take longer to clear.
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you have a good plan Santa! Clean up the field as a preventive move and get back to a normal life
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