Ringworm drug for dogs (Fenbendazole) might also cure cancer

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  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    Cureious, I do hope your adorable dog Minxie remains free of cancer...please keep that FZ in a safe place...you never know when some of us might need it....Happy

    It might soon be worth as much as gold...or better yet...bitcoins....


  • nicolerod
    nicolerod Member Posts: 2,877

    Thanks for that info husband definitely good to know.! :)

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

    My bloos sugar was at the higher end of normal (90s) and it is still. I take 500 x 2 also. I feel no effects whatsoever

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551
    Another success story in Joe's face. If anyone wants to post it here, it's from

    Haven Harris, published yesterday 21.45 hs. I can't post it because I get it in Spanish, without possibility of translating it into English with my cell phone.

    Frisky, your message touched my soul. I wanted to post this because today I think it's good to end the day with good news. Have a good night, all of you.

  • anotherone
    anotherone Member Posts: 555

    my blood sugar used to be normal and on medication it is hovering just below the norm when checked for PET. Feeling a bit lightheaded but not bad and can do whatever I was able to do before and if I can not it is because of my breezing. Still losing weight which is not great but not sure why - I have read that metformin is used for weight loss but have not gone into detail of the exact mechanism and whether it is self limiting ( must be , otherwise I will disappear !) and when it stops. May be losing weight because of intermittent fasting or because of cancer - cachecsia (sp?).I must have huge tumour load as I have multiple massive lesions in lungs and chest - not sure about anywhere else. Shall check with COC re weight loss. Still no mainstream treatment 6 weeks after diagnosis - waiting for doppler now for port insertion , then haematologist, then surgeon again, then port and then treatment.😯


  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    Sonia. Here's the success story that you mentioned. Very happy for this women! NOTE FROM Joe's FB

    "

    Positive progress story!

    Before Joe's protocol: large, hard tumor attached to chest wall in breast. Three lymph nodes involved. Four ribs with metastases. Spot on lung.

    I'm not doing any chemo, radiation, or surgery until I absolutely have to. I'm old and have buried too many family members to various cancers already. I sat with my husband in too many doctors' offices and in too many hospital rooms. I want to do this differently. (This is my choice only - not a comment on how anyone else deals with cancer.)

    I started the 3/4 protocol but missed some days and hadn't started the doxycycline or the cimetidine. I decided that it was time to get serious and, in my gut, I felt that I needed more fenben.

    On July 1st, I started doing 6 days on, 1 off of the fenben. Every day I do the CBD oil, curcumin, Gamma E, cimetidine, doxycycline, baby aspirin, and have recently added berberine. (I have also been drinking Essiac tea every day for months and, most days, my breakfast is a modified Budwig diet -- high-protein yogurt blended with flaxseed oil.)

    PET scan results back today. The primary tumor has shrunk by 25%. Two nodes are still involved and one rib. The rest have disappeared. The doctor was thrilled that the tumor is also softer and is more mobile. It seems to be detaching from the chest wall.

    I am beyond thrilled and grateful. And I am planning to be patient. It took me quite a while to grow this cancer. It may take quite a while to get rid of it. To my fellow warriors: I'm just now getting good results and I'm about 10 weeks in. This may take us months. We all just need to have faith that it will work and keep supporting one another.

    I'm so happy Joe shared this protocol with us!

  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    Anotherone,,,,,, I know that the waiting is hard. Stay strong. I'm in a bit of the same boat. Chemo stopped 7/15 and new treatment has yet to start.

    Still six weeks is a long time to have to wait for results and to have a plan put in place. How do you handle the stress?

  • anotherone
    anotherone Member Posts: 555

    snooky , waiting is not actually hard; as I mentioned before I am quite tempted to wait for a month or 2 more and do CT scan again to see how tumours have changed with just lifestyle changes and COC protocol. I just would need my oncologist to tell me honestly what is the danger in waiting for one more month and be happy to organise a scan ... then if the tumours reduced I could bargain for further delay.. then if still reducing on another 3 months may be we could cancel plans for chemo... if still positive dynamic may be either keep observing or do H&P without a port dropping P once NED on scans.. Am I mad in even considering it?

    On of my internal jugular veins is blocked completely due to blood clot that happened during original chemo 13 years ago and I am not too keen to mess with another vein or go through 2 more surgeries of port placement and removal...

    May be it is easy for me because I can do most of the stuff as usual and do not have many symptoms if at all - my performance on a squash court is the only clear difference to norm :).

    I have a meeting with Chris Woolams from www.canceractive.com scheduled as well as an appointment with a complementary therapist who deals with vitC infusions, oncotermia , oxygen therapy, hypnosis , nutrition so will see what they have to say on the matter as I understand oncologist is tied by a danger to lose the license if giving advice out of line but on another hand I do not want to be reckless and delay THP if chances are it is going to be detrimental...

    So I do not feel that I just wait; I feel that I do a lot and run against the clock to give me a best chance.

    As median survival in Cleopatra study was close to 5 years for people with my histology and offered treatment I do not stress that much about cancer now that initial shock and dread to be dead in 3 months is over.

    If anything stress in my life is now more related to a separation from my partner - I so envy those women who manage not to stress because of men; my whole life has been peppered with stress due to men which has resulted in a lot of damage to me. Although it is better now that I have it clearer in my head that we are splitting and why but still - separation is a hassle and grief that something did not work. Having read what I written - I think I will call Macmillan cancer support line today and ask for councelling.


  • nicolerod
    nicolerod Member Posts: 2,877

    Anotherone...I too am loosing weight...but its not from Metformnin since I do not take that. I have cut down carbs and sugar and mainly just have 1 "cheat" day a week its a big cheat day though..LOL I may have an ice cream sunday and pizza things like that. So I think that could be a big part of why I have lost weight..but gosh I am down to 99lbs dressed. We are moving soon in a few weeks and I will be seeing a new MO :(:( her profile says she has interest in integrative medicine so I am intrigued to see what that will mean for me .but I am going to ask about the weight thing. I am only 5 foot so I am small so it doesn't look that bad. The problem is when I do gain weight it always goes to my gut and no where else :(

    Anotherone I had to edit to add in...I think another thing that has contributed to my weight loss is that I upped my magnesium dose...and I was adding in Magnesium Oxide to help me go poop (its an amazing laxative) I am going to have to stop the Oxide, just stick to the Citrate and add in a stool softener and see if maybe a couple of lbs. come back on.


  • goldie0827
    goldie0827 Member Posts: 6,835

    Frisky, I have checked in and read, just no time to respond to everyone. Great success stories! Drove thru Best Friends yesterday, I wish the wind was blowing so I could hear the chimes.

    Sonia, so sorry for the loss of your friend. I have lost a few myself from here and in my life. Hugs my friend.

    Off to more adventures today.

  • anotherone
    anotherone Member Posts: 555

    nicolerod, then your weight loss is not from cancer as you are stable and not from metformin. Have you had any excess weight before? Hard to believe you had at such a low overall weight but if you do not lose unnecesary fat then you are losing muscle mass and that one hard to believe to be a consequence of cutting carbohydrates as well. Unless someone has other ideas on where the weight is coming from

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

    Intermittent fasting is a weight loss factor. I have been on metformin thru chemo.... my weight loss really kicked in when I began intermittent fasting after chemo.

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    Snooky darling...thank you following up on Sonia's and posting this other positive story. This woman is very courageous and smart. I wish I had the guts to likewise stop all treatments and follow the advise of lady Macbeth when she urged her husband: But screw your courage to the sticking place, And we'll not fail.

    Unfortunately, we all know how bad it turned out for that wretched couple ....I have another Doxil infusion in two weeks and I dread to think at the damages that it will continue to wreak on my body.

    I wish her all the best, she's paving a radical way to treat this disease. It will be great to see how it turns out. I'm sure she'll keep on posting. She knows how important for everyone else is what she's trying to accomplish.

    May God Bless her and continue to guide her mind and body toward complete healing!

  • anotherone
    anotherone Member Posts: 555

    Santa, my impression is that healthy weight should not decrease further through intermittent fasting - or?

    Just have been told by oncologist that if untreated for 6-8 weeks I would have about 60-70% chances of life threatening events ( blockage of pulmonary lobe, superior veins cava syndrome requiring shunting) etc. On one hand it is scary , on another difficult to believe - I noticed symptoms just a couple of months ago and function pretty well and with all going back and forth with tests and appointments it has been 10 days already since I seen the oncologist who is going to treat me and I suspect another 10 day at least will pass till the first treatment

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Hello everyone. Snooky: thanks for posting that woman positive progress. It's encouraging, right?

    I also wanted to thank Blueshine for posting her positive news in another thread and mentioning fenben ... There are wonderful women in that other thread. I know they know the existence of this thread, and you can't suggest to anyone to do something they don't want to do, but maybe that post can make one of them feel like trying.

    Have a good day all of you 😘

  • blueshine
    blueshine Member Posts: 247

    Yes, Yndorian, I was thinking the same😀. They are wonderful women there. I want to tell everyone about this protocol and who knows, maybe we’ll have more NED 😀

    Hugs to you

  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    Interesting research on targeting cancer stem cells....although, I doubt I'd do it

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/320206.php

  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    Nuts!!! Just wrote a long post about what's been going on with me last few days and I've lost it! Love to know what key I'm hitting that causes that..

    I'll try again to report later....

  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    https://www.amazon.com/Metabo.../dp/1603586865/ref=sr_1_2...

    The above link will take you to Amazon to order: "The Metabolic Approach to Cance". This was very well received with excellent author/researchers.

  • cure-ious
    cure-ious Member Posts: 2,897

    Snooky- that is an interesting article you posted! These researchers are taking niclosamide, which is the same type of drug as fenbendazole and mebendazole, but has higher activity, and putting it into a nanoparticle so that it will deliver the drug only to cancer cells (in this case cancer cells that express the CD44 antigen). That way they can circumvent any liver problems and do not kill healthy dividing cells. They are just re-packaging an inexpensive FDA-approved drug with anti-cancer activity so that it will have lower toxicity and give it some selectivity for cancer to be useful for clinical trials, surely you would take it!!

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Cure-ious: Thank you for translating that article into simple words. I was reading it and I really wasn't understanding very much ... 👍

    The intrigue here is when this investigation "will be lost accidentaly in the Bermuda triangle" as usual 🤔

  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    lol Sonia, I was wondering what "filler" ingredients they'd use to charge thousands per nan particle. There's not enough money for big pharma to pursue this.

    Oh, Sonia been meaning to suggest that you look into the

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

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  • anotherone
    anotherone Member Posts: 555

    thank you Yndorian.

    Brought a tiny resemblance of a smile on my tired face ( just laid down after shop work shop again cook 12 hours). Was feeling almost normal first half of it but tired with a weight on my chest and coughing second.

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    Cureious WE WOULD take it, but do you really think any of us will be around in 2056? HappyHeart

    I'm teasing you...in case it's not obvious...

    Sonia thank you posting another very encouraging story! It helps us build faith in the therapy, although it requires so little effort and money, I truly don't understand what's holding back the rest. She's now planning on living, instead of being a stage 4 dead woman walkin....ain't that amazing?

    How many of us have to die before we wake up to the odds of our own reality??

    Grace, May She Rest In Peace, was doing fine till she wasn't, and she was gone in what seemed to me the flick on an eye..she didn't get the opportunity to be saved by some breakthrough treatment or try anything else....and that really sucks


  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    I just realized that the woman with positive progress I posted earlier is the same who mentioned Snooky and asked for prays . God blessed her ❤

    (In case someone didn't see it or you want to remember, it's on page 31 of our thread)

  • anotherone
    anotherone Member Posts: 555

    a user called jojo just posted in a thread whether cancer could be considered chronic- she has been living with ILC metastasis for 5 years without conventional therapy and she uses fenbendazole amongst other stuff if I understood her post correctly. We may want to ask her questions.

  • nicolerod
    nicolerod Member Posts: 2,877

    Anotherone so the Fenben isn't curing her it's just keeping her stable?

  • goldie0827
    goldie0827 Member Posts: 6,835

    Hi all, I'm home. Had a nice time, Utah is so pretty. Got a new picture with Darby Hinton (little boy Israel from Daniel Boone show) Drove through Best Friends Animal Sanctuary and took a few pics there too. Finished up my 3 days of the FZ I got in the UK and still no fever, so I am very glad of that. Need to do labs this coming Friday, but not looking for a positive result just yet, maybe next time! My MO is always wanting me to switch to another treatment, but since I don't have any pain and it's usually TM's that go up, I'm not interested and just want to stay on the Xeloda. New treatments scare me!

    Sonia, I saw that gals post too. At first I wasn't too interested as she said she had bone cancer, but then figured out she had breast cancer that metastasized to her bones. And no traditional treatment....WHOA!

    I hope everyone is doing as well as can be. Heads held high with a smile please.

  • anotherone
    anotherone Member Posts: 555

    I know as much as I have written , NicolRod. I have asked additional questions in that thread but not sure whether she will come back to answer them

    It obviously has not cured her but I do not know for how long she was taking it . In any case it is plain incredible to me that someone can go for 4 or 5 years with both bone and intra peritoneal metastasis at all even if it was with conventional treatment and without it it is just incredible.