Ringworm drug for dogs (Fenbendazole) might also cure cancer

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  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    I agree with you Snooky, unresolved traumas, and suppression of feelings lead to all sorts of health problems, including cancer because the only coping mechanism are addictions...and the list is a long one. Just this weekend, I was on a sugar and carbs fest...I ate not one, not two, but three brioche type rolls, ice cream and fruits...all at the same time....obviously, there's a part of me—and I know who's the culprit—that doesn't care how much inflammation and damage all that insulin wreaks on my already weakened body...

    I also believe that our generation never received the proper upbringing, because our parents were themselves traumatized and didn't know any better....Alice Miller's revolutionary psychology didn't start until the '70s and was, of course, rejected initially.

    When I go to the various public parks that surround my neighborhood, I'm always drawn to sit across the children's playground, and I enjoy watching how today's toddlers interact with the world... and I'm so relieved to notice by their relaxed demeanor and extroverted, trusting nature, how much attention and love they are getting at home.

    They are, of course, born into middle class, educated families, mothers that can afford, ormight choose to be home when they're born, instead of pursuing their careers....yet, worldwide, the problem remains and it inevitably leads to unspeakable crimes, wars, and destructive acts, or the creation of great art...

    God surely had a sense of humor when he created opposites, which are, in reality, part and parcel of a undivided whole.

    Goldie, I'm confused....why is your Mo changing your treatment based on TM? Shouldn't it be based on scans results?



  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    Frisky, Thank you for mentioning Alice Miller. Having never heard of her, I went to Wikipedia, my next step is the local library.

    But just reading Wiki explained a mystery to me. My mother passed away slightly over two years ago. The funeral services and the reaction to her death was a huge mystery. The things said about her at her funeral and afterward, they great her saintly attributes at the celebration of her life......I was so confused. I wondered who is this women they are talking about. That is not the women I knew. I'm the second of seven children and I know that their upbringing was not so different than mine. But they had convinced themselves she was someone else. And yes, as you said, my three brothers are alcoholics. They are not deep thinkers nor over ally emotional. Yes, our subconscious try's to keep the truth buried for our own protection. But it doesn't work. I come from a family of Irish Catholic hard core drinkers. Twenty years ago I became interested in genealogy. (thinking if I could understand my past, I could understand myself) And sure enough, generation after generation were incidences of suicide, depression, marital infidelity, and of course the drinking. The sad thing is, if I told any of my siblings about this they would absolutely not be interested. Any subject they deem depressing they will not engage in. Interesting subject.

    I started to paint years ago, oils on canvas and board. I've been told that I am good. (Never believed it How could I be good at anything?) I've offers from different people to buy a few of my works, but how could I possibly sell them? My soul is on that canvas....one doesn't sell their soul....unless of course you understood and could identify with the painting. I've yet to meet anyone who understands that.


  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

    I am a court appointed special advocate (CASA) for foster youth. Hence I have a lot of knowledge about childhood trauma.

    More and more I think that if we want a better world, it's all about protecting the safety of small children and nurturing them and loving them. I think it is particularly important in the first 5 years. This includes no corporal punishment and trusting kids innate sweetness and goodness rather than forcing them or molding them in harsh ways.

    One thing that happens from 0-3 is that the RIGHT brain (unconscious brain) grows much more rapidly in toddlerhood. Then around 3 the left (logical) brain comes on line and begins to grow preferentially. Stuff that happens to tiny kids is encoded as "reality" in the right brain -- an unconscious assumption about how the world works, based on un-remembered experience.

    For example, "nobody cares what I think." or "It's dangerous to ask for help" etc.

    Then, later-- the person may experience depression, anxiety, addiction. A self-hating inner voice.


  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    yes, Santa, those first three years are essential for what will happen next...the basic problem as I see it, is that the majority of American women-unlike their Europeans counterparts—don't get enough maternity leave from their jobs. Without proper bonding these newborn are destined to a miserable childhood that leads to drug addictions, guns, violence, suicide, and crime...it's a real tragedy...

  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    Poor Jane, on her website she just shared a photo of a new book that is out....it's name is "How to Starve Cancer" by a different author. But this is all about an alkaline diet. Still it's infringing on her name/fame. Everyone is asking her if she had her title copywrite . Haven't heard the answer to that nor, what she plans on doing about it.

    Me? Still waiting for that elusive phone call. And patience is not my forte.

    SONIA, honey, I hope that you are reading the thread and are coping with your situation. Please know that we love and think about you.

    Goldie, hope your ONC appointment went well and that your internet is back up and running

    HUGS and LOVE to all

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Snooky and all my friends here: I read you every day and you all are in my thoughts. I'm not publishing because I don't know what to say to help you with your problems. I also don't want you to worry about me, you already have enough with your troubles. When I finish this process and have more clear what happens with me, I will return to this forum. I do not forget you, you all are my friends and I love you very much. Hugs and kisses

  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    Dear Sonia, thank you so much for posting. I understand your reasoning. And you really don't need to say anything. We know how you feel.

    Just send us a LOVE and a HUG every now and then. See like this

    LOVE SONIA AND HERE"S A HUG.

  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    This is from MSM it seems that the Oncologists are finally figuring out some things that the rest of us have known. Esp about plastics. And EMT's

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wellness/30-thing...

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    I'm here with my primary doctor talking about how to starve cancer cells and she's agreed to prescribe small dose of the Lovastatin and the doxycycline, because she said, they are non dangerous drugs.

    She will monitor the results in 30 days to make sure there are no problems.....let us pray....

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

    Whoo hoo I hope you give her a hug for being willing to go out of the box!! Nice to have a doctor who is listening and open minded. Are you already doing metformin?

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    Yes, Santa, I'm already taking Metformin.

    God Bless my Russian speaking primary physician. More than once, knowing how hopeless conventional therapies are for stage four, she has gone on a limb and supported my need to safely try something unconventional....

    I'm now rereading the Mc Lelland book and will be taking notes that I will share with her when I see her next...by then she will have read the book herself.

    I told her how revolutionary Jane's approach was, how she, herself, can save lives. I could tell she was intrigued and genuinely interested in learning something new. I love that about my doctor...she's unpretentious..and maybe deep down she knows that this knowledge might help save the life of someone she loves, or even her own one day....

    not realizing we are all hanging by a thread is the height of disassociation

    I just hope to not run out of time. Around 3 o'clock this morning, I read the thread dedicated to Abeauifulsunset, and I was shocked and totally wiped out by how quickly her predicament changed, and how powerless our doctors are when the cancer is active.

    She was okay for 8 years and that's a great blessing.

    I do hope there's a miracle and she experiences another 8 years...let us pray...


  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fonc.2018.00452/full

    okay Folks....there was a human clinical trial conducted in Italy with the illustrious MD Lisanti, about the effect of doxycycline on cancer stem cells...the results were pretty ....pretty...good and what's even better now we have the recipe!

    200mg of doxycycline for 15 days...read all about it...

    Frontiers | Doxycycline, an Inhibitor of Mitochondrial Biogenesis, Effectively Reduces Cancer Stem Cells (CSCs) in Early Breast Cancer Patients: A Clinical Pilot Study | Oncology


  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

    I am guessing there will be further refinements of dosage and duration if they do a trial-- but this sounds like a very doable/brief protocol to be getting strong results.

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    https://bmccancer.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12885-018-5263-z


    Statin use and breast cancer survival – a Swedish nationwide study

    In conclusion, statin users, particularly simvastatin users, had a lower risk of breast cancer related deaths compared to non-users in this nationwide cohort of Swedish women with breast cancer diagnosed after the age of 40. Considering previous evidence from functional-, clinical- and epidemiological studies, this study adds evidence to the notion that statins seem to possess beneficial effects against breast cancer progression along with its cardiovascular benefits.

    At this point, there is a need for confirmative results based on randomized clinical trials to test whether statin treatment can be recommended for patients with breast cancer.

    I’m not waiting for the confirmation whichmeans waiting 10 years to find out...I wish we all had that luxury...


  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    Frisky If you go on satins, they take the Coq10 from your body so you need to supplement it. Otherwise extreme muscle aches in your legs. Also, there are a lot of recent studies that claim high cholesterol does NOT cause heart attacks. It nothing to do with plaque In the arteries. In addition, too low a cholesterol is a bad thing. An alternative doc that I followed claimed that tests on prisoners showed they all had low cholesterol. Low cholesterol in our brains causes very aggressive behavior. Please research it well before deciding

    I had a stent put in a vein in my leg because of a blocked artery. The heart doc tried and tried to get me on a satin. He said it would save my life. After researching I declined. That was 12yrs ago.

    Guess it's a question of balance

    HUGS

  • anotherone
    anotherone Member Posts: 555

    thank you for warning, snooky.

    Glad you like your oncologist and that you getting more ways to tackle cancer , Frisky.

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    Snooky ...I'm taking the low-dose lovastatin for a short amount of time to block the fatty acids pathway of my cancer stem cells...not for lowering cholesterol...I agree with you that our body needs cholesterol and the common wisdom of prescribing them is misguided...thank you for the advice though....I will increase my coQ10 and watch out for muscle pain...

  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    Frisky- I confess that I did not read the article. I'm getting ready to though. I agree taking a low dose satatin for a short period is a no brainer.

    I read your first article on doxycycline.

    Am I correct is assuming that you take it just ONCE for the 15 day period? And then that's it?

    I will read the first article.

    I do thank you for the info.

    S

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    JFL, do you remember when I made an analogy about the pathways cancers uses to evade treatments?

    Well....here's the Jane McLelland list of the pathways and the corresponding remedies...which have to be taken all at the same time to starve the stem cells....the choice of medications are based on what feeds one's cancer cells. Jane, says that breast cancers prefer the fatty acids pathways, BUT, when those are blocked they will use the sugar and glutamine pathways..enjoy! I'm convinced my Italian cancers cells feed on everything, most of all sugars!

    Cureious might be able to further explain this whole maghilla to us....

    Jane based this knowledge on published research papers....but the best way to apply this knowledge is to read her book: how to starve cancer...great storytelling

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  • BevJen
    BevJen Member Posts: 2,341

    More information about Dr. Lisanti's studies -


    https://www.healtheuropa.eu/michael-lisanti-antibiotics/88900/

  • nicolerod
    nicolerod Member Posts: 2,877

    I saw this on Jane Mcellands facebook...

    Hi. I have been excited about joes protocol with fenbendazole for a bit but on further analysis it seems that those that only those on chemo or immunotherapy as well benefit from the protocol. Joe himself was on Keytruda I think so because I haven't fully analysed it. - Any views much appreciated as I'm trying to put together my own protocol.

    Love to fellow adventurers, Paul.

    Did anyone see that ?? Do you think that holds any truth?

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    thank you BenJev for sharing more info about MD Lisanti.

    Snooky I'm not sure how long it will take to see results...I'm giving myself three months....

    BTW...the McLelland protocol jives completely with the Fenbendazole, in fact, various anti parasitic drugs are mentioned as blocking some of the pathways...

    If the FZ works by itself it will be great! This is what everyone would prefer, as it's simple to comply with and inexpensive. No SE. No doctors , hospitals, or insurance companies involved...ain't that the best part? Of course, this would destroy a huge part of the US economy...but, honestly, would any of us give a fk, considering the hell the system puts us through?? It's like going through the rings of Dante's Inferno, and I'm sure we haven't done anything to merit this unbearable and unending fkng nightmare...if this is healthcare....I wonder what physical and emotional torture would be like....

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  • simone60
    simone60 Member Posts: 952

    Hi all,

    I've been following this thread for some time. I hope you don't mind me chiming in on the Doxycycline. I will be taking that with the COC Protocol next month. I take100 mg Mebendazole one month, then 100 mg doxycycline next month. I alternate between the two.

    I also take 2 - 500 mg Metaformin plus 80 mg atorvastatin

  • simone60
    simone60 Member Posts: 952

    Also, they told me to stop taking coq10 as it will cancel out the statin.

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    Simone thank you for your useful contribution and clarity. is this what oncology care prescribed or it is your own protocol?

  • simone60
    simone60 Member Posts: 952

    it's what they prescribed

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    that’s great! Simone, How long do they think you have to be on these medications?

  • MtLakeGirl
    MtLakeGirl Member Posts: 1

    Hi!me too! I just found out about this potential protocol... what’s your diagnosis?

  • cure-ious
    cure-ious Member Posts: 2,897

    How is CoQ cancelling the statin? Normally the advice is to take CoQ to help absorb the statin and prevent muscle pains..

  • simone60
    simone60 Member Posts: 952

    Frisky,

    They said it was up to me. A lot of people will go off the meds once they make it to NEAD. Then watch their TMs, if they start going up they’ll start on the protocol again. I have a scan due next month so I’m hoping to get to NEAD. I want to stay on the protocol for awhile to weaken and kill the cancer stem cells. They only offer advise on those 4 drugs.

    I plan to reread Janes book again. She refers to a kill phase and I was not clear on what to do for that phase. So I am not sure what the next step is for me.

    Curious,

    I previously researched coq10 and did find an article about it effecting statins. I’ll try to look for it and post it here. Anyway I didn’t question the MO from COC when she told me to stop taking it because of that