Ringworm drug for dogs (Fenbendazole) might also cure cancer
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if you want to laugh so hard, you might pee in your pants ....watch the second episode of the second season of DOCUMENTARY NOW, on Netflix..
it's written, created and produced by the folks from SNL with actors like Helen Mirren and Bill Hader ....t's hysterically funny, this episode is a satire of Michelin stars chefs!
The episode about the rashnishis in Oregon is very funny too!
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yes mebendazole and doxy alternate. I spent time online looking for the place where it would be written online but could not find it. Even in the trial description it lists all 4 of meds and states " for the duration of the study ". I will ask next time i speak to them.
Frisky , the seals are sooo cute !
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Frisky: You must stop editing your posts. If I had not gone back in the thread I would have missed the news of your lower TMs! It seems to me that are excellent news! 👍👍👍
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Good Gosh what a day! Thurs the ONC prescribed Gabapentin for the neuropathy in my leg. I started it last night. I slept a solid 9hrs (didn't even wake up to pee) When I woke up at 7 I felt slightly dozy. At 9 I couldn't keep my eyes open. Laid down and slept three more hours. Was up for 4 hours and then same thing I was so tired layed down at 4 this afternoon and I just woke up for after another three hour nap. And when I'm awake, I feel very funny like I'm slightly drunk. Although it is working for the neuropathy, this is not the drug for me.
Been trying to force myself to concentrate and I came across this info. SANTA this sounds a lot like what you were taking about pages ago. The following Is from reposed drugs.
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Recently, I have extended my research of supplementing conventional cancer treatments with supplements and repurposed drugs to reiki, meditation and sound therapy as well as study of quantum physics possibilities and its implication on human biology. I believe a comprehensive and holistic approach is truly needed to overcome a stage 4 cancer diagnosis.
I realise for some of you this may be jibberish and that's ok. For those of you that it's not, here is a sound therapy track designed for cancer patients. This is perfect for infusion time or just quiet rest time.
http://www.leighannphillips.com/sound-heali…/cancer-journey/.
If you guys want me to keep posting other finds I have, let me know. If there is interest I will start another sister group for that.
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I first read about rich simpson couple of years ago. He goes for curing cancer. He claims it's the THC in marijuana that does it. Just CBC oil will not. He has a hugh following and has a couple of books out.
Have a lot to say but brain not functioning right now.
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thanks Sonia, a month from now, I'll be getting a pet scan that should illuminate what the real story is...my mo can't wait for the Y90, I'm not so sure I want to do it anymore...unless I really have to.
I'm not in any major pain but my mind is not completely there, I know, however, what supplements to take to get the sparks going again...
I'm watching now a farce about Marina Abramovic played by Cate Blanchett....hysterical..
I'm also drinking something .my neighbor brought over a soda with CBD called Recess...it's weird...I'm not sure I should be drinking right after Doxil...but it's supposed to relax me...i can still feelthe steroids....
Triple X scene going on in the Galapagos today captured on camera!
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Snooky, maybe the solution is a lesser dose of gabapentin...you want to get a good night’s sleep and get refreshed...I’ll check that link...thanks
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Yes Frisky, I thought of a lower dose. My pills are capsules the type that cannot be cut in half Meanwhile, I just finished researching gabapentin and according to everything I just read I shouldn't be on it! It interacts with Zoloft, zanax and the HP med that I am on. Read patient reviews and a lot of them talked about the extreme fatigue and mind altering effects. So I need to rethink it
Meanwhile, I think this has been discussed on this site but this article intrigues me. This is from the site you mentioned Frisky, I thank you for that.
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I had my MO appointment today. I asked him about the COC protocol and he had not heard of it and asked if I had any materials on it. I sent him the white paper the COC provided to me.
In my call with the COC and based on the materials they sent me, I was under the impression all 4 drugs were given simultaneously. However, like Anotherone mentioned, it may be that the written documentation available doesn't specify that but it is the actual plan to alternate mebendazole and the doxy.
Snooky, I have never taken gabapentin due to the known side effect that it makes one very sleepy (and I understand it causes weight gain as well). You may want to look into Cymbalta for neuropathy. I took it for AI-related joint pain and it worked wonders. I asked my MO if there was anything that would help with the pain that was not a narcotic and he suggested Cymbalta. No side effects except that it may improve one's mood as it is primarily prescribed as an anti-depressant but is also prescribed off-label for joint pain and neuropathy. I had really bad joint pain on my first line of treatment - I went one day from being premenopausal and pregnant with super high estrogen levels, to the next day, simultaneously having the baby, having my ovaries removed and starting Aromasin and Faslodex. Very drastic shift in my body's estrogen levels overnight, which hit my poor joints pretty hard. It also helped to ease my bone pain a bit which was excruciating throughout most of my body when I was diagnosed.
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JFL Dear, you story never ceases to amaze me! You’re one remarkable woman!!
Going through, the physical, emotional, and psychological stress of a cancer diagnosis is bad enough, but doing so while pregnant it's an amazing feat....you managed to not only succeed but to retain a good, positive attitude throughout all those radical changes and procedures....I’m touched....
May you and your family experience the ultimate success and be completely cancer free soon! I think adding this complimentary treatment to the conventional, if there are no conflicts, might take you there...best wishes to you!
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Gabapentin before bed time definitely helps sleep. I was prescribed it for a neck injury, and never slept so solidly in my life. My wife has started taking it as an alternative to sleeping pills, of which she has tried nearly every one available, and eventually they all stop working. I read many reports where people take it for its sleep inducing properties, and many users are very happy with that side effect.
So I was reading all the literature I could find on CBD and drug interactions. There is definite potential for CBD to interfere with the metabolism of commonly used cancer drugs such as palbociclib and letrozole. It does interact with the most common drug metabolism pathways. Potential, as in it could, but not saying it does to a significant degree. There is no definitive answer on whether it would significantly interact and either worsen side effects or reduce the effectiveness of the drugs. As it can interfere with Cyp3A4, if it does so significantly, it would make palbociclib stronger, and letrozole weaker. However, there is no definitive word on whether the level of interaction would be clinically significant. It is CBD dose dependant. Extrapolation from in vitro concentrations to human levels of ingestion suggest the level ingested would have to be far more than anyone would typically consume to get strong inhibition (such as 5-23 grams per day, grams not milligrams), the work is preliminary, and not in actual humans, and is extrapolations from test tube work that could be subject to significant error.
Bottom line is that there is potential for adverse drug interactions with cbd. There has been little reported adverse interactions however. What to make of that last point is open to guess work.
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Thanks for that info Husband11 . Yea it feels like there could always be some type of interaction of something...but one has to wonder how much of that makes the interaction detrimental.
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I wish we had more clarity on drug interactions with the same enzymes. Grapefruit has been a no, no with every treatment I have taken. Sad, it was my favorite fruit and I used to eat one per day. It is like “Drano” for the liver. The only time I did cheat is I had grapefruit a few times midway between my 28-day Doxil treatments - 14 days after Doxil infusion and 14 days before the next one. Unfortunate to hear about CBD has similar impacts as grapefruit as it likely interferes (or potentially interferes) with most hormone therapies, targeted therapies and chemos. I think in most if not all cases, grapefruit makes the drugs more potent but not in a good way, to potentially dangerous levels. That lines up with what Husband said about CBD.
I think a lot is still unknown. I am currently taking a drug that interferes with CYP3A4 and may decrease the metabolism of my tamoxifen. Even though they take the same pathway, it is suspected that tamoxifen, for example, has alternate routes when CYP3A4 is impacted. I am taking a risk and prefer not to do so but I do not want to stop the drug that has significantly improved my treatment-related fatigue.
Husband, how did your wife have the opportunity to take dendritic cell vaccine and the other immune-modulating treatment? Very interesting
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JFL: totally agree with Frisky said.
Husband: I think I'm going to ask about gabapentin, I didn't know it helped sleep. I am taking Clonazepan since night sweats prevent me from sleeping 2 hours in a row. If Gabapentin also helps me with neuropathy, and it also has fewer adverse effects than Clonazepan, it will be great. Thanks for the info!
Snooky, I really hope you find something that works for you.
The article about glutamine is interesting ... I have read somewhere that if you deprive methionine cancer cells for 3 days, that weakens they cell walls and they are more exposed to the immune system. But that should not be done by fasting or ketosis, but by 3 days of highly enzymatic fruits such as pineapple, kiwi, strawberry, etc.
I recently heard a cuban oncologist who said that the glucose present in the fruit is not the kind of glucose that feeds cancer. Long story short: the natural glucose molecule turns to the left, while the "artificial" glucose molecule, which is in processed sugar, turns to the right ... According to his studies, cancer cells are better proccesing glucose molecules that turn to the right ...
Another thing he said was that it is a good idea to vary the diet since cancer cells do not have the same ability to adapt to dietary changes as healthy cells, which produces in them a stress that makes them more vulnerable to treatments ...
I'm just brainstorming here
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Sonia I heard the same thing about real fruits being ok and not being the same thing as processed food sugar..or soda etc. I believe even Chris Beat Cancer had changed his theory on that as well and does say that you can eat as much fresh fruit as you like. Also Dr. Morse ND says the same thing.
What you said about eating strawberries, kiwi and pineapple for 3 days...is intriguing I have to look that up. Thanks for that info
Husband do you think your wife will be adding CBD oil into her regiment since she is on Ibrance?
Nicole
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Nicole: I will try it when the fruit season arrives here ... I guess 3 days can not harm ... and, at a minimum, our liver and kidneys will appreciate that detox.
JFL: I do not understand why tamoxifen gel is not yet on sale to use topically, they made so much news of that ... It would be an excellent alternative since it eliminates the hepatic pathway for its metabolization ...
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Extensive explanation of the COC protocol, that might help answer some of your questions. Enjoy
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=121506430 -
Husband you said "Gabapentin before bed time definitely helps sleep. I was prescribed it for a neck injury, and never slept so solidly in my life" I totally agree with that. But it worked all the next day too, couldn't stay awake. And the dizziness and the way it made me feel (drunk) has really put me off it. I was put on 300am and 300pm maybe that was too high a dose. I'm glad that it worked for you.
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JFL, my wife did not have dendritic cell therapy or other immunotherapy.
We will have to mull it over, but my wife will likely continue to take small amounts of CBD and THC, as in 25 mg or less per day. The slight interaction with cbd has a potential to make it stronger. We can see if that has any manifestations. Yes, that is completely unscientific and entails some slight risk. There is also some slight risk it could reduce the metabolism of letrozole as well. As its dose dependent, lower doses will have less effect. Most of these drugs like letrozole and palbo aren't prescribed by body weight, so they aren't tailered to the individual, nor is there evidence that dose reductions have much impact. If it makes the 75mg palbo she currently takes, slightly more potent, it shouldn't do any harm. Or none that can't be reversed by stopping the cbd. It shouldn't impact the effectiveness of her treatment. The letrozole??? We have to balance this with the prospect of benefit from the cbd as well. Pretty hard to do lacking firm evidence. Those are my rambling thoughts on the subject.
We are off to the States to pick up some bulk melatonin, chaga and stevia powders.
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Frisky,
Thanks for posting the article from New Zealand. Very, very interesting and informative.
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Husband thanks for that info. Of course, I agree with you lol. I didn't realize but your wife is on 75mg of Ibrance? That is what they just dose reduced me down to after the bout I had with the mouth sores. Just curious...do you know what her last Bilirubin AST ALT numbers were?
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Apologies, Husband, it was someone else's wife who did those therapies. Saulius, I believe.
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Great explanation (and microscopic images) of how the tiny parasites generate cancer cells ... Ladies, we are in the correct way
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Thanks for sharing an amazing intelligent video Sonia. It makes total sense to me...a lot more than the genetic theories. What was amazing was how indistruttibile the parasite are. They can only be held in check with a healthy immune system....and again that makes total sense....
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Excellent video. So these parasites are a part of us? And our crappy, air, water pollution and the low quality of our food supply (in the US) and all the electronics (and 5g is coming) is causing the rise in cancer patients? like we suspected all along. I always suspected that stress and negative emotions were a huge factor. Along with overuse of antibodatcs and all prescriptions drug use. So we need to back into homostatis (sp
) but how the hell can we do that while on cancer treatments?
The start would be fresh air along with time in the sun, diet changes, exercise, detoxing and changing out thinking patterns. But most of us are doing that already.
IMO our bodies are too full of toxins. Mercury from tooth fillings and mercury and allumin (sp) from vacines.
So, how do we build up our immune systems? That's what we need to discuss. We can't do that until we clean all the garbage out of our bodies. Lots to think about. I've been researching different supplements for detoxing.....when I have all the research, I'll share.
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One question that's been hounding me, would anyone know or care to theorize if cancer can be transferred by blood infusions? Of course I mean from people who have donated blood long before they were diagnosed.
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Snooky, I don't know about blood transfusions, but 1 year before my diagnosis I found a cat in very bad condition on the street. I took him to the vet and he found nothing, just malnourished. I took him home and fed him and took care of him until tumors began to grow on his skin ... it was feline leukemia. I did everything to save him but I couldn't, I had to put him to sleep , ... but I had caressed him, kissed, cleaned ... maybe it is absurd but I always think if that did help trigger my desease
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Snooky, I don't know about blood transfusions, but 1 year before my diagnosis I found a cat in very bad condition on the street. I took him to the vet and he found nothing, just malnourished. I took him home and fed him and took care of him until tumors began to grow on his skin ... it was feline leukemia. I did everything to save him but I couldn't, I had to put him to sleep , ... but I had caressed him, kissed, cleaned ... maybe it is absurd but I always think if that did help trigger my desease
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Dear JFL, dear All, yes my wife gets DC/CIK immunotherapy. When she was found to have stage IV de novo with her liver almost in failure according to liver parameters (AST, ALT, TBI, GTT were sky high but she herself still was still asymptomatic) in August 2017, it seemed that everything was over. We were still in big shock (we still are) but I gathered all my strengths and started reading (I still do every day), same as you guys, everything. I have a PhD in engineering myself and was always good at analytics, sort of "making summaries" of huge amounts of information from different sources. Firstly what I understood (this feeling, or "summary", always comes somewhere in the back of my mind after gathering some critical amount of information, and it never failed me before) was... there's a solution for this but it is very individual as we talk about different disease for each person. Secondly, still, it is individual but there are common patterns, and science works with them - science does well but it fails to address every each of us individually. So, let's say, science knows and treats ~20-40 % (just an example) of what is stage IV, as these are common patterns that were revealed in clinical trials, which means that 60-80 % is left to... sadly... us. There were several studies that showed that de novo and therapy naive stage IV patients who achieve NED (~16 %), and especially Her2+ patients, have a very high PFS and OS (last study from MD Anderson of August 2018 shows it is 100% and 98% extrapolated at 5 and 10 years respectively - like WOW!). So, my first conclusions were: 1.We must make whatever it takes to come to NED (how one can be cured if he still has tumors). 2.After NED we must do whatever it takes to stay there as long as possible by rebuilding the immune system. 3.We always must have another "pillar", another treatment in our pocket if this treatment fails. Well, all of this is much easier said than done, but after first THP infusion we saw that her reaction was very good - main palpable tumor (>7 cm) in her breast decreased dramatically, liver counts came to normal (doctors were surprised, to say the least). As there were several other traditional treatments to bring us to NED, even if THP fails, I understood we had to care about points 2 and 3, which are crucial not to relapse. What I also saw here, on breascancer.org, was that several stage IV patients who were NED for many years, have previously also taken part in DC vaccine trials. Then I went then to NCI's immuno-oncology guys and they said dendritic cell vaccine works quite well in ~50 % of cases (they had several gastritic cancer patients stage IV that were at 5-7 years and still going, also 2 MBC patients who did very well), so we hurried to make it, as it was possible only until ~2-3 chemotherapy. 8 vaccines were made from her blood and were waiting. After very very harsh 12 cycles of THP (I'd say even earlier but MRIs/CTs came only after 6 and 12 cycles) she was NED. Our MO was very much against DC vaccine but we started to use it after Taxotere was over, in June 2018. If you remember, we secretly added CBD/CBDA after 7 cycles of THP too. Then in 2018 same imuno-oncology company started to produce cytokyne induced killers (CIKs), and we also went for that (4 portions of CIKs grew up in chambers). Again, our MO was against. We started using CIKs together with DC vaccine according to carefully designed plan by an immuno-oncologist, following MRIs and HP infusions in December 2018. In February 2019 my wife relapsed in her left breast (everyone thought before it was a CR but apparently not, as changes in the breast were so huge in the beginning, so some cells were left) but, to doctor's surprise, nowhere else. We went then for another 6 cycles of Taxotere added to H&P this spring/summer. This July she had a mastectomy and now radiation (50 Gy, still going), again, against our MOs recommendations, although they had to admit mastectomy was needed as even after 6 additional cycles of Taxotere they still found cancer cells in the resurrected tissue. So now... we continue to use DC/CIK (one dose left each), and she's NED in all her body for past 18 months, except for that relapse in her breast. Hope to have her all-NED after the radiation. To say that DC/CIK, CBD, curcumin and a few other supplements did not help to keep her NED would be an understatement, as even one respectable MO at the MDT meeting called her case "a miracle". I am exceptionally thankful also to this thread and a bunch of beautiful pro-active minds who brought my attention to COC and FenBen. These are two other additional "pillars", very logical ones, that I see in our fight. Again, I am not saying that DC/CIK is the holy grail but at least they should work according to their mechanism of action (if it was correctly set up which is a bit of a gamble), cancer cannot outsmart them easily (let's say, HER2+ has to completely loose HER2 expression property as they are designed to attack HER2+), they are affordable (~10 kEur for both), and, if working, DC taught T-cells are active for up to 10 years in your body and lymphnodes. First step of real immuno-therapy, I'd say... Sorry for such a long writing.
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Yndorian,
The fructose in fruit small intestine absorption is slowed down and occurs over time because of the co-existence of fiber inside living cells in the fruit. You do not get the same sugar spike with fruit, no spike at all. Not only that but its absorption in the later part of the small intestine means satiety hormones kick in - so you feel full and thus not likely to overeat. Add the vitamin and antioxidant effects and fruit despite its sugar content, is your friend. If you want to read more Robert Lustig - Prof Ped Endo writes a lot on the subject.
Snooky,
Very unlikely to get cancer from a blood transfusion. At least one large Danish retrospective study. There are several case reports of cancer from surgical needle stick injuries where the instruments were tumour contaminated. Common things are common - most cancers are multifactorial rather than just one thing. Having said that a fair bit of work shows blood transfusions are immunosuppressive - lots in bowel cancer and recurrence - so if you can avoid transfusions do so.
Interesting thread following. Thank you.
The stuff on doxycycline is particularly interesting. Its Michael Lisanti group from Manchester. It appears doxycycline has some effect on CSC (cancer stem cells) with a thought it might prevent/reduce bone metastasis - but like everything not all CSC are responsive to doxy - and they are just starting to tease out why/how ( why so late when some of the data on this goes back to 2002 ...)
https://www.spandidos-publications.com/or/39/6/304...
I am stage2. Without having diabetes and being of average weight (64kg) I take metformin and a small dose of statins.
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Thanks for the background, BSandra. Wonderful her liver has stayed clear this whole time. Did you have the DC/CIK treatments performed in your country or did you need to travel
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Saulius,
Thank you for such a long and complete story of your wife's journey. And thanks so much for the information about the dendritic cell therapy. I immediately went to clinicaltrials.gov and checked to see if there are any studies in the US recruiting for this treatment, and there appear to be two currently recruiting for ClinicalTrials.gov Identifier: NCT02479230 -- one site in Cleveland and one in Pittsburgh. I am assuming that in Lithuania, you were able to proceed differently in obtaining this treatment?
I for one really appreciate the thoroughness of your investigation. Thank you.
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