Great saying about depression
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Diane: Glad to see you are now busy and I am sorry you have to go through another surgery. In LA, deviated septum is the "excuse" for getting a nose job, so I know that it's a common surgery. However, I would make sure your dr. is also a PS so that you get a great cosmetic result, too. I don't know anything about this type of surgery except that sometimes with a nose job breathing problems finally get corrected. I hear it can take a year for the swelling to go down. Good luck and let us know how you do!
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MBJ- I can't read what the sign says on your new avatar and it's driving me crazy! LOL!
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Kate: LOUD MOUTH'D THAT IS!
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Kate, do the revision AND look for a job. You are a woman....it's multitasking.
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DiDel - I broke my nose in 2009, and when the surgeon fixed my nose he was supposed to fix the deviated septum. Mine was apparently curved at a 90 degree angle. Well, supposedly he fixed it. Well, I could breathe with the broken nose but after the surgery breathing has been a struggle. So I have now seen two more surgeons who say two different things to fix the deviated septum and to make my nose straight again even though breathing is my main concern.
Anyway, both said a curved septum WILL go back to being curved unless they add more cartalidge to straighten it and keep it straight. I too have nasal collapse. Anyway, make sure to ask how they are going to make sure your septum doesn't curve back - wish I had known to ask. Hope it saves you some extra surgeries and trouble.
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So I was reading the back of one of the supplements I take, and 5-HTP 100 mg says this:
The immediate precursor of seratonin. The production of seratonin levels in the brain are directly related to eating and sleeping patterns, mood shifts, tranquility, and compulsive behavior. Use has been shown to aid weight loss, reduce carb cravings, improve mood & reduce mood fluctuations and well as promote sleep patterns!
I haven't slept well at all since starting my new program and so I took this before going to bed along with my magnesium and melatonin and I slept 12 hours almost straight through without any hot flashes! Just wanted to share this with everyone.
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What the heck is the supplement!!! I always wondered why they couldn't have a natural production of seratonin on the market.
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Barbe: It's called 5-HTP or L-5-Hydroxy-Tryptophan! I took one pill 100 mg. I purchased the MRM brand and it only cost $16.99. for 60.
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LOL Barb - I was going to ask the same thing!!!
What is MRM brand though> I'll look for it as I'd so anything to sleep through the night......
Tonight going for painkillers and sleeping aid. - Didn't listen to my body when it kept saying you are tired..... So in cleaning out the attic I fell 1/2 way through the attic fan! I'll be really sore and bruised tomorrow and then have to find some one to fix the crazy fan!!! Ugh can't belive I did that!
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Oh Stanzie!! Poor you!!! And stupid fan.......!
Hmmmm MBJ, I gotta find me that stuff, but I've heard things about Tryptofan....now what was it?
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Stanzie- OMG, hope you're o.k. and not too banged up today. Yikes! Be careful, girl!
That cleaning stuff is dangerous. I try to avoid it at all cost but it interferes with my OCD. LOL! My sister is unemployed (and won't take any money) so she came and helped me spring clean yesterday and I paid her. What a lovely feeling having the entire house clean for once. This morning it is raining, the family is asleep (and both dogs) and I got to enjoy the whole morning paper and entire pot of Earl Grey to myself. Nirvana! Trying to de-stress this weekend. Monday I have a pelvic US. Ick! GP/Gyn didn't like some of the symptoms I've been having so ordered US and CA125. Would be nice to get one medical issue handled before another one came along. No such luck I guess. Gives me greater empathy for you, barbe. Don't know how you handle it so well and with humor, too!
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I was just told that it's better to take 5-HTP in the morning as it helps with depression but it also can stimulate! I also just found out that it's best not to take any vitamins after 2pm--only minerals like magnesium before bed along with melaonin for sleep.
Kate: Sorry you have to go for an US--may I ask what symptoms you are having?
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- Medications for depression (Antidepressant drugs) interacts with 5-HTP
5-HTP increases a brain chemical called serotonin. Some medications for depression also increase serotonin. Taking 5-HTP along with these medications for depression might increase serotonin too much and cause serious side effects including heart problems, shivering, and anxiety. Do not take 5-HTP if you are taking medications for depression.
Some of these medications for depression include fluoxetine (Prozac), paroxetine (Paxil), sertraline (Zoloft), amitriptyline (Elavil), clomipramine (Anafranil), imipramine (Tofranil), and others. - Medications for depression (MAOIs) interacts with 5-HTP
5-HTP increases a chemical in the brain. This chemical is called serotonin. Some medications used for depression also increase serotonin. Taking 5-HTP with these medications used for depression might cause there to be too much serotonin. This could cause serious side effects including heart problems, shivering, and anxiety.
Some of these medications used for depression include phenelzine (Nardil), tranylcypromine (Parnate), and others.
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MBJ, I was just reading up on that and it can cause heart valve problems. I ALREADY have heart valve problems (tricuspid regurgitation {leaky valve}} so I don't want to exacerbate it. It can also cause high BP which I already take medication for! I think you have to be healthy to take it. Dang it all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kate, what has been the problem with your pelvic area? If it's not too rude to ask...
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The research I did says that Tryptophan isn't as potent as 5-HTP, so maybe this could be helpful, however, both increase seratonin levels.
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I was looking up 5-HTP, not Tryptophan. I got the info from Wikipedia. I like using Wikipedia as it is non-partisan and un-biased!
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I know where I heard it was for turkey!!! Tryptophan isn't actually higher in turkey than other foul, I think it's just that we eat more turkey at a sitting. Tryptophan doesn't have a logical breakdown in Wikipedia, so if it's not as potent, I can't see taking it. BUT, if 5-HTP works, I could risk taking it for a short period to see how I handle it. But have you checked about the interaction with your current depression meds? There is a note that some meds are contraindicated.
I'm lactose intolerant (who isn't really) and Wiki's report says that I wouldn't process Tryptophen properly and that could lead to depression. Who knows! Maybe we just discovered a link...the missing link!!
We'll use you as our group guinea pig!
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Barbe: I am still not taking antidepressants, so I would make a good Guinea Pig! Yeah, Wiki is a good place to get info. I use it, too.
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Okay: I did a bit of research:
5-HTP stands for 5-hydroxytryptophan. It's an herbal supplement made from the seeds of a West African plant called griffonia simplicifolia. It has not been evaluated by the FDA, but it is believed to help with depression, sleep disorders and weight problems. It's most commonly found in capsule form.
Function: When tryptophan is in the body, some of it is converted into hydroxytryptophan, which is then converted into serotonin and melatonin. Taking 5-HTP bypasses the first step of this process, which leads to more production of serotonin and melatonin than taking tryptophan alone. Up to 70 percent of 5-HTP will be absorbed by the blood, and it easily passes the blood-brain barrier.
Benefits: One of the major causes of depression is low serotonin levels, so boosting production of serotonin in the body by taking 5-HTP can help alleviate depression. It may work well in combination with some types of medical antidepressants, or it may be used on its own in cases of mild depression. Since it works differently from antidepressants, it may work well for those who are resistant to medications.
Low serotonin levels can bring on cravings for sugar and fats, so 5-HTP may help control appetite and binge eating.
5-HTP also produces melatonin, which is responsible for the body's sleep cycle, so 5-HTP may help promote regular sleeping patterns.
Dosage: The recommended starting dose of 5-HTP is 50 mg a day. It should be taken with food, or shortly before eating, with a full glass of water. If you see no benefit at 50 mg, this can be gradually increased. As with all herbal supplements, discuss dosage with your doctor.
The best time of day to take 5-HTP depends on what benefit you hope to gain from it. As an appetite suppressant, it should be taken about 20 minutes before meals. To regulate sleep, it should be taken about half an hour before bed. If you're taking it for depression, you may see the most benefit by taking smaller doses several times a day.
Warning: 5-HTP may cause sun sensitivity; protect yourself until you know how it affects you. In some people, 5-HTP may cause a rash. It also may cause an upset stomach or constipation.
Some medications(like anti-depressants and chemo) may interact adversely with 5-HTP, so as with any herbal supplement, discuss use with your doctor. In particular, SSRI antidepressants shouldn't be combined with 5-HTP. In addition, some medical conditions, such as an ulcer or liver, kidney or blood-platelet disease, may prohibit your use of 5-HTP. Pregnant or lactating women should not take 5-HTP
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Wow, great information!!!!! I'm going on Monday to my favorite health food store to talk to them about it and see what they have. The other thing I want to really look at are some really good probiotics. Anyone on any of those. Everything I read about them make me think they are a huge answer to a lot of problems.
Kate! Will be thinking of you on Monday with the Ultrasound. I've had them before to check ovaries and it isn't bad at all. I would usually watch as I've been in menopause forever he would have trouble finding mine as they were so tiny. But it will be reassuring to check - the other a blood test and of course you have to wait to hear results on those which is always hard. Let us know how it goes. Wish you weren't spending the weekend not knowing.
Yup I'm sore and banged up a bit but I'll live. Just so mad at myself for being so stupid and trying to work on when I was exhausted.
MJB - thanks for all the great info. Barb - do talk to your Doc cause even if you can take it for short periods of time seems like a good idea.
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That's what I'm wondering - like, could I take it for a couple weeks on, couple weeks off. Hey! Kinda like chemo, funny how your brain starts addressing situations differently. And I didn't even HAVE chemo!! ehehehehehehehe
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stanzie: Heal up and let us know how you are doing.
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Thanks just sore all over, one ugly bruise and very hurt pride and hate having to fix the fan... got to get more insullation up there as my house is turning into an attic oven.
Barb- funny - yes all of BC treatments and just anything connected with it just comes first to mind when thinking about different things.. Wonder if it will ever get less so?
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OK, inquiring minds want to know (what my symptoms are). (If you're not one of those minds please skip to the next post as it may be TMI!)
My symptoms are fatigue, hip and back pain that gets worse at night, cramping, pain during sex, spotting, peeing a lot, pelvic pain, loss of appetite but gaining weight at the midsection, bloating and constipation. My doctor says could be explained by menopause, hypothyroidism and just plain getting older (or all of the above) but she wants to be safe and check it out. It's a PITA but I want the peace of mind, too, so US on Monday.
Stanzie- Glad you're o.k. other than being bruised up. You need a handy man! (Preferably one who is tall, dark and handsome!) (Or short and blonde depending on your preference!) Maybe you should put out a want ad? Wanted: One tall drink of water needed to do all those crappy jobs that husbands are supposed to do but rarely get around to doing. Toads need not apply. What do you think?
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Kate: Your complaints are so typcial of women who have been through BC and just awful! Are you on Tamoxifen? I hear that can do a number on you and cause many of these symptoms. So sorry you are going through this.
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Kate, those are my symptoms too and it's narrowing down to IC. The only complaint I don't have is pain during sex as I haven't had sex for almost 3 years!! (I am willing, but my DH can't...sigh) That is why I/we wanted to know your symptoms as we have our "doctorial" opinions too!! Have you been checked for PCOS?
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MBJ- My BS said the benefit of taking Tamoxifen was so tiny since I had DCIS and BMX so I elected not to take it. (Wondering if I made a mistake but the side effects sounded horrendous.)
barbe- I know in a previous US years ago I did have some tiny cysts but no treatment was recommended. Wondering if maybe those got bigger? I guess I'll find out this week what the heck is going on. At least I hope so. (BTW, no sex for 3 years and you still have your sense of humor? Wow!)
Am still stressing about the job situation and get this. The airline I interviewed, US Airways (8 hour interview = no job) is advertising AGAIN for flight attendants. The same day they posted the job online they sent out another rejection email to me that was identical to the first one. WTH? It was like they were saying don't even think about applying again. Felt like a slap in the face. Just don't understand. I worked for them for 12 years with a spotless record. I was even an inflight trainer who helped certify new flight attendants on their mandatory training flights that they needed to complete to graduate. I just don't get it and it's hard to not take it personally. I don't take rejection well. Can you tell? sniff.....sniff.... : - (
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For those of you on Tamoxifen there are an article out today by medicalnewstoday.com that said Omega 3 can boost your response to Tamoxifen. Here's the link-
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Kate!!! I have it figured out!!!! You aren't a minority!! They can't tell you that's what their looking for....but they CAN pick and chose. I am a minority up here is Canada...hehehehehehe
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Kate: Big hugs to you! They are probably looking for new blood--someone who will take less pay and benefits and are easily misled. Don't you give a second thought to it! You will find your place! Big, big hugs!!!!
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